I... don't see this at all. I think the reason they didn't put that sequence in was because it would've killed the pacing, and really, in the context of the actual game, you're not supposed to know what's the deal with her. After all, the reasons she's on the boat, and who she's working with... That's all supposed to materialize later.
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RE Revelations - Rachel Joins as Playable Character in Raid Mode, Two New Enemies
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superfamicom
Banned
Damn, its so frustrating.
Why does everyone think gamers are all just a bunch of immature 16 year olds?
Why won't anyone take the video game industry seriously?
I just can't quite put my finger on it.
Then there is Jessica's report that showed a playable Rachel in early 2012. It's cofusing man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfCmgfTrvEs#t=18m55s
Frankly, I like her and her desing, so I'm the problem you are having with this industry. I'm sorry. Also, quote those pics please.
Whoa
Wasn't familiar with that, and it's really neat. Still, the swimming, the underwater enemies -- I don't think they ever planned to throw that at us in the early part of the game. Maybe as a flashback aside later in the game, Terragrigia-style.
Sound yummy? It is!
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Yup, that is what I was referencing.
They clearly had a point where she was completely playable in the game and likely had a much larger role in the story. After fan outcry they likely took this section out which explains why a portion of the opening story feels a little empty.
That's... hard to believe. Lv. 50 is the max level a player/weapon can reach, as well. It's one thing for a Lv. 50 player to one-shot a Lv. 1 monster (I presume that's what you mean by "destroying"), but to one-shot a Lv. 50? Even the most spectacular stat spread and the full number of equippable slots probably wouldn't power up a weapon that much.
What do you mean by fan outcry? I really don't remember them showing her that much until close to release. I agree that they had planned something different for her at the begining, or a flashback scene line Neiteo said.
Well he could have gotten one of the legendary weapons at level 50, wich as we know is really hard to get, and those weapons do so much damage that they last for 15 levels before being outclassed by the regular one.s
A flashback scene seems likely. Start it halfway through the campaign, a flashback to the past, leading Rachel up to the moment of her death. (Not a spoiler, was in all the prerelease media.) That would explain why her sequence had advanced mechanics like swimming and Sea Creepers.
That's true. Hmm.
Btw, for those who don't know, there's NO TIME LIMIT in Raid. You're free to take your time, and Ghost Ship, in particular, is -excellent- for exploration.
Riposte
Member
I can't recall if he was one-shotting monsters, but he was making quick work of them nevertheless. Is the arena with the waves of enemies on the helicopter (?) pad the "true exit"?
EDIT: Indeed, mature adult men don't really like T&A. Thanks for reminding me guy named "superfamicom" with a cartoony graphic of a several decade old console marketed to children.
Because secretly gamers [or most men in general] are horny and like boobs.
Personally I would have liked to see a much more practically designed suit for Rachel but I'm not entirely opposed to what we have. It irks me to an extent, but I don't mind looking at it.
It's in internal struggle we all go through.
Yeah, the deck. You fight shitloads of enemies, like multiple chainsaw monsters, slugs, dogs, hunters, giant shellfish, and three (!!!) Rachels at once, etc, plus a supersized version of the final boss. That's one hell of a battle, so that's impressive if he handled it effortlessly.
I don't doubt you. I would just say, it's rare to get one's mitts on weapons so powerful, so I don't think the loot system is broken or anything.
I belive that's the path, I didn't get there myself but a couple of friends did in a streetpass meeting we had. Also as said, there are some legendary weapons that deal huge amount of damage compared to the regular ones (though they have some drawbacks, they are still really really good) so it's probable that you saw that. Good luck getting one though, I remember gaffers in the OT that didn't get any for a long time.
I have one of each legendary weapon, but getting high-level versions -- and ones with the maximum number of slots for loading up perks -- is another story altogether.
I think I remember someone taking a picture of a Lv. 50 Pale Rider with like eight slots. :O
Soyongdori
Member
3ds Revelations players gets shanked once again
Wha? The WiiU version will be fine. The system is as powerful as PS3 and 360, and since the port is being made for all three simultaneously, it shouldn't be a case like Arkham City where there are performance issues converting from one to the other. The real question is, are there enough bells and whistles to the PC version to justify it over the WiiU version, which has some features I find alluring (the controller, Miiverse/Creature Voices, touchscreen -- an excellent feature in the 3DS original).
I mean, shit -could- go wrong, but I'd say it stands a better chance of turning out right than, say, a year-late last-minute rush-job port.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
The Wii U features look pretty awesome, I laughed out loud reading the creature voice stuff.
It really is. Lemme break down Raid Mode for you:
You start at lv. 1. You level up to lv. 50. Your enemies range from lv. 1 to lv. 50, as well. And in Raid, there are other twists like tiny versions of enemies that are super-fast (hilariously terrifying, in the case of the chainsaw monster), or supersized versions of enemies that are slow but tremendously strong and resilient.
Where the weapons are concerned... You have a variety of handguns, shotguns, machine guns, magnums and rifles. Each has a level -- the higher the level, the stronger the weapon, but you must match or exceed the level in order to equip. Weapons also have a randomized number of slots -- I think the max is like eight or 10. Each slot can house a "part," with the best parts being the "illegal custom parts" squirreled away in optional corners of the levels.
Parts can increase firing speed, hitting power, accuracy, ammo capacity, penetration (for striking multiple foes in one shot), and so on. There are even ones that increase your shots in power the closer/farther you are to an enemy, or that scale in power based on other factors. Some even increase or decrease the target's aggression once shot.
Naturally, the more slots your weapon has, the more ways you can power it up. This makes the pursuit of high-level, high-slot loot in the game VERY addictive, and adds to your incentive to level up, and complete levels on higher difficulties. You also unlock characters as you level up, which you can view in great detail in Raid's model viewer.
There are also other weapons, like decoy bombs that lure away enemies before exploding, and underwater bombs you can use, well, underwater. (And swimming controls are superior here to what they were in RE6, and I say that as someone who otherwise loved the mechanics in that game.)
And remember, there's no time limit in Raid. Unlike Mercs, you don't have the clock breathing down your back. Don't get me wrong, I -love- Mercs, but Raid is definitely a nice change of pace. Twenty-one levels, three difficulty levels, 10 characters (now 12 with HUNK and Rachel, and who knows what else).
And Ghost Ship is INCREDIBLE. With the heart-thumping music, and the HUGE challenge, it's a freaking adventure in itself. A Ghost Ship run can take a solid hour. No saving, no starting over, just BRACE YOURSELF.
I think, barring any performance issues, I'll get the WiiU version for the controller and exclusive features, and then get the PC version later when it's like $10 on Steam.
In the meanwhile I'll do a Hell playthrough on the 3DS version, lol.
Sounds almost like an action Rouge-like in some ways, right up my alley.
If you are worried about BC and server longevity, then PC is the way to go. Likely its just a P2P connection, so you can use a tunneling program like Hamachi 20 years from now.
I suppose Ninendo is a distant second in the console space though, they are pretty avid supporters of BC.
Riposte
Member
As long as they keep that skinner box crap out of The Mercenaries.
Riposte
Member
Loot. Unbalanced loot.
Oh! I doubt they'd add loot to Mercs. Mercs is more like a fighting game, based around a very particular balance.
Slowing down player growth also allows them to pace the unlocks better. I imagine they will have more level-based unlocks, what with the new characters, weapons and parts they've promised.
MH3U and Revelations run on the same version of MT Framework, don't they? I don't see why there'd be any performance issues on Wii U.
MT Framework seems beautifully scalable in general. I'm assuming RER used it like most current-gen Capcom productions, correct?
akidnamededdy
Banned
Will double dip on Wii U version. Looks good.
I wanna say it used MT Framework Mobile just like both versions of MH3U, but I can't be arsed to boot my copy of the game and check.
Nemesis_
Member
What a beautiful post.
I liked Raid mode but I could never put into words what it was, exactly.
Damn I need this version now, Miiverse is really tempting.
Samir Sedlar
Member
I love that, I hate Time Limit, Raid is going to be too much fun it seems.
Items are persistent. The system is very similar to some online RPGs. You have a lobby where you manage your inventory and choose which items to equip, and then you choose which mission to enter.
I personally wish they would add some kind of "balanced" option for Raid mode where your level and equipment level becomes locked based on which mission you're playing. My biggest problem with Raid mode is that everything becomes too easy in the long run. Going back to previous missions isn't really an option once as you level up (you'll literally one shot everything), and even the last mission becomes rather easy once you've maxed your level and found good equipment. This also makes it extremely hard to play with friends who are not the same level as you.
Well, there is also that PC version where an average PC will likely be able to run it at 60fps even at ludicrous resolutions.
Raid mode sounds awesome. Will definitely get this game. For the record, I liked RE6.
Am I correct in assuming that this game doesn't feature a Mercenaries mode? Would be great if both extra modes were included, but Raid alone would be alright I guess.
EDIT: Another question: do levels affect all your characters in Raid mode or can you level up each of them individually?
Am I correct in assuming that this game doesn't feature a Mercenaries mode? Would be great if both extra modes were included, but Raid alone would be alright I guess.
EDIT: Another question: do levels affect all your characters in Raid mode or can you level up each of them individually?
There's no mercs mode in Revelations (as a side note, if you want more mercs content, I'd suggest looking into RE6 PC as it'll get mercs no mercy and I'm sure there will be mods adding variants to mercs stages).
Level is shared between all characters. You can actually choose to play at a lower level than you are. I guess they implemented that so it can be more balanced when playing with lower level friends; however, it has little effect considering the equipment is what primarily affects how powerful you are.
This is all based on the 3DS version though, so maybe they've changed things.
Yeah, it's important to note, if you ever find yourself feeling "too powerful" in Raid, or if you're mismatched to your friends in terms of level, you can actually DIAL DOWN your level, all the way back to lv. 1.
Then you won't be able to equip your high-level weapons, and you'll only be able to buy low-level weapons in the store. You can always dial your level back up, of course. Right now, I've dialed my lv. 50 character down to lv. 6 as I accompany my brother through Raid.
Also, regarding the store: The store is in the lobby, and the currency you spend is called BP. Want more BP, beyond what you get per enemy in each mission? Be sure to scour each Raid level for the secret "puffer fish" enemy, and shoot for bonuses like Genocide (kill all enemies).
Then you won't be able to equip your high-level weapons, and you'll only be able to buy low-level weapons in the store. You can always dial your level back up, of course. Right now, I've dialed my lv. 50 character down to lv. 6 as I accompany my brother through Raid.
Also, regarding the store: The store is in the lobby, and the currency you spend is called BP. Want more BP, beyond what you get per enemy in each mission? Be sure to scour each Raid level for the secret "puffer fish" enemy, and shoot for bonuses like Genocide (kill all enemies).
