10mb/s comes out to 36gb in an hour if my math is right (10*60)*60=36000mb=36gb. So no.
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Rumor: A digital only Xbox One might be in Microsoft's 2016 plans.
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10mb/s comes out to 36gb in an hour if my math is right (10*60)*60=36000mb=36gb. So no.
That's exactly what Spencer was talking about at GDC earlier this year and Myserson (Head of Windows) at Build. They are trying to make it more simple to compile for multiple devices from a single source code. Spencer said in some situations it's as easy as ticking a check box in the compiler to take something from a PC to Xbox One.
They're obviously working to make it a reality.
There are already several unified apps with more on the way. Soon we'll have unified games, I think KI is the first in March.
bits and bytes, how do they work.
Edit: Just looked it up, Battlefront is only 20-30 GB so it would only take 5-8 hours still.
Well I'm saying that's what my download speed is on my pc, doesn't mean that's what it downloads at on wifi via xbox live...and having to turn it off when youre not there so the house doesn't burn down. I mean I'm not lying that it took me 2 days..
Super Wario
Banned
Data caps.
I had been under the impression US isps use MBps not bits. So is my 40meg connection not 40MBps. Do the speed tests use bits?
Edit: so it is bits the isps are using. This is good to know lol!
Memorabilia
Member
Unification just means it's a piece of cake to make a Windows Store game technically work on XB1. But the two stores will always be separate. I don't for one minute believe that certification on Xbox will be as simple as on the Windows Store.
This just seems to be a set top box like the fire TV or the Apple TV.
Seems like a smart move to me, people who would buy this wouldn't buy an Xbox since it would be too expensive.
Memorabilia
Member
Given the size of games is only increasing, average US data speeds and cap limits simply aren't good enough yet to go mainstream digital only. Anything short of a decade out is a niche product at best.
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they need a $99 one if they want to compete with Apple/Google/Amazon for that sweet lock-in ecosystem money. A $250+ box that cant play discs makes no sense.
And I think some are way over estimating how much a BRdrive costs.
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
They should have made a $99 360 STB three years ago.
I guess we'll see how the Windows team moves forward soon enough.
Why. Is a generic blu-ray drive that much of a cost concern that it'll make the thing 199$ all of a sudden?
Nah, I don't think they are this stupid.
People know that deals on physical games are often too good to pass up and people wouldn't want to be beholden to just Microsoft and it's online store offerings.
Nah, I don't think they are this stupid.
People know that deals on physical games are often too good to pass up and people wouldn't want to be beholden to just Microsoft and it's online store offerings.
unapersson
Member
Could a simple Windows Store app store based box not stream games from the Xbox One in the same way a Windows 10 PC can?
Memorabilia
Member
This is a much better, more realistic idea... Drop that price to $99 and u got yourself a winner.
No but it means you're buying games off the windows store, thus more profit for MS per purchase which means they can afford to take a loss (or a bigger loss) on these consoles compared to normal ones with discs where they might never see a penny from game sales.
The only games will be mobile stuff, you wouldn't be able to play Forza or Crackdown on this.
It seems like this thing would mostly be for TV and films, not really focused on games.
KingJ2002
Member
it's going to happen... for two reasons
1. Stop Apple TV from gaining ground in the living room.
2. Test the console market to see if a online only console will sell.
As far as limitations from ISP's and Pricing.
that could all change with this launching.
Microsoft could drop digital only prices to entice users to adapt.
They could also pair with other companies to force ISP hands.
either way... it's going to happen. I honestly think Nintendo is going to be the first to do it with the NX though.
1. Stop Apple TV from gaining ground in the living room.
2. Test the console market to see if a online only console will sell.
As far as limitations from ISP's and Pricing.
that could all change with this launching.
Microsoft could drop digital only prices to entice users to adapt.
They could also pair with other companies to force ISP hands.
either way... it's going to happen. I honestly think Nintendo is going to be the first to do it with the NX though.
Captain Tuttle
Member
If it's priced right it'll do well
Don't matter. The fucking day 1 updates are bigger than the fucking game.
I remember when I used to just pop in the disc and play the fucking thing. Now I have to plan hours ahead, or simply wait another day.
That is simply not true.
As for this rumour I think it's just that, a rumour and one that is nothing but bullshit. The pricing alone doesn't make any sense. Microsoft already faced a massive backlash of trying to force an online only console on consumers and they rightfully so got kicked in the face for it.
It may be good if that somehow allows them to drop the price sub $200 (probably would need to cut out some other features as well as an optical drive can't add that much to the cost) but short of that, having a system that couldn't take advantage of all the deals on physical games (i.e. couldn't take advantage of Best Buy GCU Deals) wouldn't hold much appeal for me personally. But who knows, maybe it'll still move a lot of units.
Green Yoshi
Member
A Xbox 360 mini would be nice.
Now that sounds like a winning idea.
family_guy
Member
A Bluray drive doesn't cost $50+. You can buy a standalone retail one for less than that.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
GameStop will upset, I wish them luck.
This is completely different than that so do not compare the two.
Selling a digital only console is not the same as selling a digital and physical console that still forced you to go online for physical.
visiblemode
Member
Because having a disc to reinstall deleted games is way easier and downloading it?
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Of all the consoles, a digital-only X1 would be a terrible choice, seeing how they've already had issues with XBL going down or 3rd-party servers going down which prevented players from playing their games during the outage.
rokkerkory
Member
Better improve the damn DL and install times
EvilAlPacino
Banned
I'm a fan of Microsoft pushing the envelope on trying to create a digital only Xbox. Would I purchase one at this point? I would not unless my current Xbox crapped out on me.
There's going to be a group that will be against this for some reason or another. Don't see why it would be an issue for anyone since this is an optional purchase. This is not being forced on the person. You either get it or you don't. Simple as that.
I'm happy seeing Microsoft taking risks and hope in the long run that it pays off.
There's going to be a group that will be against this for some reason or another. Don't see why it would be an issue for anyone since this is an optional purchase. This is not being forced on the person. You either get it or you don't. Simple as that.
I'm happy seeing Microsoft taking risks and hope in the long run that it pays off.
dr_rus
Member
I don't see why anyone would prefer such XBO over a regular one. The cost of BD drive is minimal and the price difference will be small. The only reason to make one is to use a form factor which would not allow to fit a BD drive - but is this even something that anyone is interested in? I don't believe this rumor. Too little sense in such version of XBO.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
How much does the xbone cost to manufacture now? 200$ in 2015 doesn't really sound out of the question to me if they think the ecosystem will compensate for the loss.
I don't see them marketing this as an Xbox that doesn't play disc. This thing might not be called Xbox at all. It's a set top box, a competitor to Fire TV and Apple TV.
It would flop, if they do make such a thing.
If it's made to compete against Apple TV/Fire TV/Chromecast/etc., it won't farewell. MS doesn't have that brand loyalty and consumer confidence as Apple or even Samsung do (hardware-specific).
Apple TV isn't even selling that well, why would MS think they can do better? Unless they just want a product to pester Apple, then yea, it doesn't matter if it flops.
If it's made to compete against Apple TV/Fire TV/Chromecast/etc., it won't farewell. MS doesn't have that brand loyalty and consumer confidence as Apple or even Samsung do (hardware-specific).
Apple TV isn't even selling that well, why would MS think they can do better? Unless they just want a product to pester Apple, then yea, it doesn't matter if it flops.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Fire TV is doing fine iirc. There is obviously a big potential market for this thing because companies keep trying to make it work despite set top boxes not flying off the shelves. I think Roku, Fire TV and OG apple TVs sold well. That's about it.
Convenience
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Xbox one games
Deckard Chapel
Banned
No physical releases = no buying of the console for me.