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[VideoGameEnjoyer]

That's good shit.

PlayStation Series 5 could never

 

[Vroadstar]

Can you collect sandwiches tho? Very important.

Sandwich collecting is outdated game design, we collect potatoes now.

 

[adamsapple]

Good thing then that there's no mandate on PC that such a thing needs to be the case.

No, of course not. But it's a huge emerging market. They'll probably have a different studio try and tackle a non RT solution for that install-base. Like Nixxess.

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On topic. 40hz with all the bells and whistles for me.

 

[Topher]

And right on cue....some ppl are questioning if the game would look better if it was 30 fps only.

What do you want....pick a side.

I'm always on the side of 60fps. Have to admit, I'm a bit nervous about RT on all the time. I mean.....if anyone can do that then it is Insomniac. But memories of Jedi Survivor are still fresh.

I'll shut up. I believe, Insomniac!

 

[solidus12]

 

[RoadHazard]

Insomniac are so much better at this than everyone else for some reason.

Wish I had a TV capable of 120hz/40fps...

 

[DenchDeckard]

Day one for me bbe

 

[itsjustJEFF]

this dude is an unabashedly shameless bleed green, shill, and fanboy... but the fact that he sticks with it and none of this past stuff really bothers him its pretty remarkable. I kinda give him credit for that, I personally wouldn't be able to do it. It's like that mentality you need to have as a QB after you throw an INT, brush it off your shoulders and keep throwing, we gotta win the game... of course in a much much less cooler sense and way more lame lol

OT: That's pretty impressive, but I wonder at what quality and what kind of RT.

 

[Pelta88]

Juicy!

 

[DeepEnigma]

this dude is an unabashedly shameless bleed green, shill, and fanboy... but the fact that he sticks with it and none of this past stuff really bothers him its pretty remarkable. I kinda give him credit for that, I personally wouldn't be able to do it. It's like that mentality you need to have as a QB after you throw an INT, brush it off your shoulders and keep throwing, we gotta win the game... of course in a much much less cooler sense and way more lame lol

OT: That's pretty impressive, but I wonder at what quality and what kind of RT.

It's almost like he's monetized to do so. Easy to stick to it in that case. An act.

 

[DeepEnigma]

No, of course not. But it's a huge emerging market. They'll probably have a different studio try and tackle a non RT solution for that install-base. Like Nixxess.

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On topic. 40hz with all the bells and whistles for me.

There is more than likely a non-RT mode as well.

 

[Dream-Knife]

60 = 720, 40 = 1080, 30 = 1440?

 

[TheDarkPhantom]

Doritos Pope has spoken, Amen

 

[Virex]

they are meant to be eaten

 

[adamsapple]

There is more than likely a non-RT mode as well.

Nah they say there's no mode without RT, it's very likely straight up baked into the games rendering pipeline ala Metro EE.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Nah they say there's no mode without RT, it's very likely straight up baked into the games rendering pipeline ala Metro EE.

 

[proandrad]

If they have a 40fps mode maybe that means the 60fps mode is unlocked with vrr.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If they have a 40fps mode maybe that means the 60fps mode is unlocked with vrr.

All their modes unlock with VRR, at least they did with all their prior PS5 games.

 

[Erkuza]

Do people really choose 40fps over 60?

Probably the same people who only use toilet paper to clean themselves.

 

[GHG]

No, of course not. But it's a huge emerging market. They'll probably have a different studio try and tackle a non RT solution for that install-base. Like Nixxess.

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On topic. 40hz with all the bells and whistles for me.

Not necessarily. The latest version of Metro Exodus didn't have a non-RT solution and the game hasn't suffered for it.

As always there comes a point where it's time to look forwards.

 

[Pop]

Insomniac right now:

 

[Luipadre]

Do people really choose 40fps over 60?

Probably the same people who only use toilet paper to clean themselves.

40 fps is the best of both world

 

[8BiTw0LF]

No uncapped mode 60fps will be fine, but I'd like to be able to crank up sensitivity without getting dizzy.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not necessarily. The latest version of Metro Exodus didn't have a non-RT solution and the game hasn't suffered for it.

As always there comes a point where it's time to look forwards.

"Will somebody think of the Steamdeck" is now the new concern™

These narratives™ are ever shifty, you see.

 

[Gudji]

Doritos Pope has spoken, Amen

GOTY spot reserved confirmed.

 

[Nankatsu]

60 = 720, 40 = 1080, 30 = 1440?

 

[Mister Wolf]

They're Sony's best developer.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

I swear other devs need to be ashamed.

And look at the game, it's also one of the best and cleanest looking current gen games so far.

 

[GHG]

"Will somebody think of the Steamdeck" is now the new concern™

These narratives™ are ever shifty, you see.

It's ironic because an infamous game just released with little to no regard for the steam deck and needs lower than low spec mods to run well on the system.

Didn't hear about this "concern" in that case.

 

[Trunx81]

Can you collect sandwiches tho? Very important.

Or save balloons. This is serious!

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I look forward to Digital Foundry knit picking these modes as much as possible right after telling everyone how Starfield's 30fps and lack of ray tracing is perfectly fine and expected.

 

[proandrad]

I swear other devs need to be ashamed.

And look at the game, it's also one of the best and cleanest looking current gen games so far.

Plus no mention of trash FSR. Insomniac takes no shortcuts in optimization.

 

[Reckheim]

Insomniac is the best purchase PlayStation ever made, a literal bargain. More than Spider-Man I can't *wait* to see what they do with Wolverine, going to be epic.

229m, can you believe it.

 

[JimboJones]

Remember that according to DF the Ps5 isn't capable of RT....That was after the announcement and the confirmation of RT capabilities.

Source?

 

[Bernoulli]

Source?

digital foundry

 

[ClosBSAS]

as much as i hate the spiderman games cause i just dont think they are good, insomniac are wizards. if they can do this with an insanely big open world and city then theres no excuse for other developers to have such shitty performance.

 

[Nvzman]

I look forward to Digital Foundry knit picking these modes as much as possible right after telling everyone how Starfield's 30fps and lack of ray tracing is perfectly fine and expected.

Insomniac is actually good at optimizing their games because of their engine being flexible, Bethesda's engine is ancient and as a result sucks massively at optimization, all things considered the Series X pulling off 30fps locked at 1440p native is impressive given my 4080 runs at like 70-90fps at the same res on high settings.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Source?

Hardware - AMD Oberon PlayStation 5 SoC Die Delidded and Pictured

Do these benchmarks use the same clocks? The PS5's CPU tops at 3.5GHz whereas the 4750G goes all the way up to 4.4GHz. The Zen3 APUs also double the L3 cache, have better branching prediction, larger L1 + op caches with higher bandwidth and a bunch of other upgrades. The higher performance...

www.neogaf.com

And Alex kept the FUD going even after the Cerny video. Wasn't until they launched, when they STFU.

 

[JimboJones]

digital foundry

Article or video.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Given what we've seen of games this gen with 60fps, my expectation is lows of 720p or less with dynamic resolution and a stuttery mess. This gen has been pretty awful for visual consistency. Jedi Survivor took it back 20 years and dropped sub-HD to 648p lows while dropping from 60 > 30fps on PS5.

 

[jroc74]

There should be NO modes differentiating in graphical fidelity.
Resoluton and fps? sure.
But I hope there is no RTless mode. I dont want to choose like that.

30fps mode in SM remastered is shit though. Really really laggy compared to some better 30fps games

A better game to use as a guide might be Rift Apart. Or even Miles.

30fps was smoother in Rift Apart vs Miles PS5 version. Rift Apart was PS5 only.

 

[SilentUser]

I finally got excited about the game after yesterday's SoP. And this is just the icing on the cake, these guys are the most talented (imo) on console space this gen.

 

[Gambit2483]

Insomniac stays showing the industry how it's done.

 

[IllegalLemon]

From Insomniac’s community and marketing director:

Link to the interview:

Insomniac Answers All of Our Questions About Spider-Man 2's PS5 Tech - IGN

IGN sat down with members of Insomniac Games that worked on Spider-Man 2, this interview discusses the game from a technical perspective and what things did Insomniac do differently for its third entry in the Spider-Man series.

www.ign.com

Fidelity, Fidelity+(Vrr), Perf RT. I mean, it was a given that they'd follow in the footsteps of the last one & Miles with the graphics mode selection.

 

[spartan30gr]

Tech Wizards

 

[Elios83]

40fps is the best way to play it.
It's almost as fluid as 60fps for me and it looks as good as quality mode.

 

[StueyDuck]

It will be nice to play a game this year that works. I hope there isn't any weird issues like that had with miles launch and the game shutting down consoles

 

[oji-san]

Great, 60fps mode for me.

 

[Varteras]

RT in all modes?? Jesus Christ. Insomniac pushing the industry to round the corner on RT being standard instead of an option. Making an even stronger case to consider them Sony's best studio. Absolutely among the best in the industry.

 

[Audiophile]

60fps folks offended by choice and preference..