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Steph Curry Supernova

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Since you're apparently draining half-court shots like nobody's business, maybe sign up for the summer league and then tell us how easy it is to drive to the rim against these guys.

I'm a bad dribbler, fat a bit and not i that great of shape. I can shoot but not sure how long Ill last . Few min. probably Come on boys, I only say they should touch him up an that I am a pretty good shooter at long distances. It isn't that extreme.

Something about the way curry looks when he is dribbling and going to the hole doesn't look as good as kobe to me. Maybe my idea is confused with something else as to what you guys are talking about
 

LionPride

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I'm a bad dribbler, fat a bit and not i that great of shape. I can shoot but not sure how long Ill last . Few min. probably Come on boys, I only say they should touch him up an that I am a pretty good shooter at long distances. It isn't that extreme.

Something about the way curry looks when he is dribbling and going to the hole doesn't look as good as kobe to me. Maybe my idea is confused with something else as to what you guys are talking about

Doesn't look as good? Curry is a better dribbler than Kobe, better than Iverson, better than most dudes and I can see that with my eyes
 

Vaux

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Curry has me watching the nba again. Ive been a avid watcher since ' 91 through maybe like 2008. Theirs been many 3 point specialist that have put a dagger in my team through out the years from Ellis, Rice, Peja, Allen and of course Miller, but this kid here is on another level like ive never seen before.
How he would of fair in the 90's, who knows?? but theirs no denying that he is the best 3 point shooter ever.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
You know there's "fuckball" in Football, let's bring that shit back to basketball

Just use time of possession in your favor
Burn the clock, run the game like molasses

Who am I kidding, only thing in GSW way is GSW
Either off night, other team plays almost perfect game, or some players on the team build an ego
(It will eventually come when contract renegotiations happen and maybe breaking up the band takes place)
 
You know there's "fuckball" in Football, let's bring that shit back to basketball

Just use time of possession in your favor
Burn the clock, run the game like molasses

Who am I kidding, only thing in GSW way is GSW
Either off night, other team plays almost perfect game, or some players on the team build an ego
(It will eventually come when contract renegotiations happen and maybe breaking up the band takes place)
That's what Cleveland did to gsw last year in the finals. Grind the game to a halt with iso garbage ball
 

Jonm1010

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You know there's "fuckball" in Football, let's bring that shit back to basketball

Just use time of possession in your favor
Burn the clock, run the game like molasses

Who am I kidding, only thing in GSW way is GSW
Either off night, other team plays almost perfect game, or some players on the team build an ego
(It will eventually come when contract renegotiations happen and maybe breaking up the band takes place)

The thing with GS, and you already hear it with the rumors swirling about KD, is that veteran players are gonna come there to get rings. So unless Klay, Green and Thompson miraculously turn into assholes, they are going to get guys who will buy in and play at a high level an other guys that are going to take a pay cut to get a ring like the David West's of the world.

I truly think time or injuries are the only thing that can slow them. Outside of the next GS emerging.
 
The thing with GS, and you already hear it with the rumors swirling about KD, is that veteran players are gonna come there to get rings. So unless Klay, Green and Thompson miraculously turn into assholes, they are going to get guys who will buy in and play at a high level an other guys that are going to take a pay cut to get a ring like the David West's of the world.

I truly think time or injuries are the only thing that can slow them. Outside of the next GS emerging.

I'd be willing to bet KD doesn't end up in Golden State. As fun as it is to imagine I just can't see a guy like him take such a huge discount to play second fiddle and forever be seen as a ring chaser.
 

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Jonm1010

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I'd be willing to bet KD doesn't end up in Golden State. As fun as it is to imagine I just can't see a guy like him take such a huge discount to play second fiddle and forever be seen as a ring chaser.

I kinda doubt it myself. It was more meant to point out that GS - especially if they win another championship - is going to be a premiere destination for guys who do want a ring.

So they are gonna get the Ray Allen, David West discounts from ring chasing vets going forward. And if god forbid someone outside of Curry goes down for good, there will likely be a big star looking to slide in. So I think people are going to be waiting a while for GS to cool off.
 

Fjordson

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I'd be willing to bet KD doesn't end up in Golden State. As fun as it is to imagine I just can't see a guy like him take such a huge discount to play second fiddle and forever be seen as a ring chaser.
I kinda agree, despite all the rumors and articles. As a GS fan it'd be dope, but I have a hard time thinking of it as a reality.

Hopefully they'll be able to make smaller acquisitions in the years to come and continue to draft well. That'll be the key to support the Klay, Dray, Steph trio imo.

Lmao. Want to assume he's having a bit of fun, but who knows based on his past comments...

This whole thing has just reinforced the idea that former players are usually horrible analysts. It's strange how common it is.
 

Mumei

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He is the first athlete I can think of, that a poster on a wall does not do justice. It does not show his motion.

The Artistry of Stephen Curry

Taras Domitro was not a basketball fan when he joined the San Francisco Ballet as a principal dancer in 2008.

“But I became one,” he said.

Domitro, who was born in Havana, happened to arrive in the Bay Area one year before the Golden State Warriors drafted Stephen Curry. That fortunate turn of events goes a long way toward explaining how Domitro grew to enjoy watching the game.

“It’s beautiful to watch,” said Graham Lustig, 61, the artistic director of the Oakland Ballet Company.

With each 3-pointer and every spinning layup, Curry somehow seems to transcend the sport, turning the game into theater. Domitro and Lustig said that much of Curry’s aesthetic appeal was rooted in what ballet dancers seek most: to make their art look effortless.
 

Malleymal

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He is our generational player... The guy people will mold their game after. You can see that Kobe looked at Jordan just like a lot of players of that generation, and said that he was going to be the best Jordan that he could be. Many players left the fundamentals and just wanted to out jump/fade away/wag their tongue . Now we will get kids working on their jumper and quick release to be the next Steph.

I actually think Steph's size is a blessing because he didn't have the tools to emulate Jordan. He needed to learn how to be efficient to be successful.
 

Bread

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You know there's "fuckball" in Football, let's bring that shit back to basketball

Just use time of possession in your favor
Burn the clock, run the game like molasses

Who am I kidding, only thing in GSW way is GSW
Either off night, other team plays almost perfect game, or some players on the team build an ego
(It will eventually come when contract renegotiations happen and maybe breaking up the band takes place)
bruh fuckball originated in basketball

The early '10s pacers were fuckball kings.
 

Tom Penny

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He is our generational player... The guy people will mold their game after. You can see that Kobe looked at Jordan just like a lot of players of that generation, and said that he was going to be the best Jordan that he could be. Many players left the fundamentals and just wanted to out jump/fade away/wag their tongue . Now we will get kids working on their jumper and quick release to be the next Steph.

I actually think Steph's size is a blessing because he didn't have the tools to emulate Jordan. He needed to learn how to be efficient to be successful.

Hard to mold NBA shooting genes and upbringing around NBA players and access to all things regarding basketball your whole life. That in itself is an incredible anomaly on top of talent level and work ethic.
 
mold your game around being really good at shooting.. Why did no one think of that before

(I know there's more to curry than just shooting)
 

This, by far, is the dumbest outrage in social media I have seen. And that's saying something. So many people whining about a completely legitimate comparison. When I saw Curry play at Davidson, first thing I thought of was Mahmoud.

Chris Jackson (Mahmoud) scored 30ppg as a freshman in college. He played with Shaq at LSU, and scored 27ppg as a sophomore. One could argue he had the top two seasons for freshman and sophomore in NCAA basketball history.

Now he was barely 165lbs when he was in his prime, which made it very difficult to succeed in the NBA with handchecking allowed. He was also much shorter than Curry, even though he participated in the dunk contest once. However he had a few great years, until that national anthem fiasco basically ruined his career before he hit his prime.

Now tell me: how is comparing the greatest shooter in the NBA to a guy with a similar stroke, who hit 95% of his free throws despite suffering from tourettes an insult? That's a compliment, and if you actually followed basketball, you would take it as such. I'm sure if someone asked Curry he'd take it as a compliment. In no way, shape or form did Jackson mean that Rauf was as good as Curry. Just that their shots were similar.

Rauf also made a buzzer beater from his own three point line to beat the Clippers in '93, so that's another reason why Phil probably though of him. But you can find Mahmoud easily on youtube. If his shooting style doesn't remind you of Curry, then you have to be blind. There's also a video of him shooting around in a gym at age 43 and making 102 of 104 jumpers. Probably one of the purest forms anyone has ever had.

Again, doesn't mean he's as good as Curry, just that they have similar style of play/stroke.

https://youtu.be/YiCpet86WRQ

EDIT found a better link.

And there's a link to one game, which kind of shows what kind of release Mahmoud had on his shot.
 

McBryBry

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I've never watched basketball regularly. We had this game on our radio station last night and I had to work it. I already knew Curry was ridiculous but that completely sold me on him.

Still can't stop thinking he looks like a drug dealer though.
 

this_guy

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What's your point?

Edit: This might come across as hostile; I don't mean it to be. I just don't get the response to an interesting perspective.

Take any team that becomes successful all of a sudden (within a few year stretch) and you'll have tons of new fans, fans that probably never paid attention to the team when they were struggling. Life long fans probably don't care too much for those fans' perspectives.
 
I've never watched basketball regularly. We had this game on our radio station last night and I had to work it. I already knew Curry was ridiculous but that completely sold me on him.

Still can't stop thinking he looks like a drug dealer though.

That last sentence is one of the reasons you should stop doing drugs
 

Servbot24

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I wouldn't call myself a fan of any NBA team, but I've been rooting for GSW because they're worth watching and I want to witness history.
 

Fjordson

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I wouldn't call myself a fan of any NBA team, but I've been rooting for GSW because they're worth watching and I want to witness history.
It's natural. I was rooting for Cam Newton and the Panthers this year just because he's a great player and fun to watch.

Like I said, bandwagon fans = winning usually. Not a bad thing. I couldn't care less about "true" fans vs. bandwagon fans.
 
I'm a bad dribbler, fat a bit and not i that great of shape. I can shoot but not sure how long Ill last . Few min. probably Come on boys, I only say they should touch him up an that I am a pretty good shooter at long distances. It isn't that extreme.

Something about the way curry looks when he is dribbling and going to the hole doesn't look as good as kobe to me. Maybe my idea is confused with something else as to what you guys are talking about



lol nice tag.... Kobe looks better going to the hole because he's more athletic and played the game in his prime above the rim. Prime Kobe relied in addition to his technique mainly relied on out jumping his opponents to score (from jumpers to drives). You know why Curry makes people look silly? It's because he can transition from dribble to shot in an instant from almost any position. His gather to a shot from the dribble is variable and just insanely quick, like a sniper who can shoot from the hip. When you're D'ing up against a guy like that, any subtle moves will make you jump. Not to mention because of his range, he can do that to you from past the half court line.

As for him not getting bodied, teams have been trying to do that for awhile now. Just watch what defenders do when he's off the ball. There's a lot of bodying and shirt grabbing that refs don't call ( see the miami heat game this week where Josh Richardson pretty much fouled him all game).
 
He might be better than kobe, but iverson....nah.

Iverson? No. But Isiah and especially Tim Hardaway had better handles than Iverson. Hardaway didn't have to carry the ball either, and he was shaped like a bowling ball. Best crossover the NBA has seen, at least in my lifetime.
 

Mumei

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Take any team that becomes successful all of a sudden (within a few year stretch) and you'll have tons of new fans, fans that probably never paid attention to the team when they were struggling. Life long fans probably don't care too much for those fans' perspectives.

Well, I know that. I just don't know why you felt the need to respond curtly, especially since the example I gave was: A man moves to a new city, becomes a fan of his city's team and the sport because there's a great player whose aesthetic style he appreciates because of his own work. So, what, should he have been a fan before he moved in order to satisfy your standard? Or should he have been a fan of the game growing up?

I don't really care about the politics of sports fandom, maybe because I've never felt attached to a particular team (and have never particularly been interested in the teams where I've lived most of my life). When I watch sports, it's to see something that I can appreciate, and I like teams or athletes to the extent that they give me that (in a sport that I find interesting). I often haven't heard of some gymnast or swimmer or sprinter or footballer or basketball player or whatever until right before a national or international meet, or until they've been around for a few years.

But it does mean that I don't have a sense of loyalty to or history with a team that has an established history, and I don't feel like I've become part of a group of fans. Even within my own city, if the team is doing well I'll become briefly interested, and if they aren't, I'm not.
 

Jonm1010

Banned
Take any team that becomes successful all of a sudden (within a few year stretch) and you'll have tons of new fans, fans that probably never paid attention to the team when they were struggling. Life long fans probably don't care too much for those fans' perspectives.
As I get older, and am currently experiencing all my sports teams at various points of mediocrity and worse, I have began to question why exactly being a fan in turmoil is held up as a virtue amongst sports fanatics?

Why should I honestly be putting in so much time, effort and care when it becomes clear those people in charge of my team aren't acting competently or even doing the same?

I get it if you are like a Lakers or Celtics fan that is at a bit of a lull but largely has a solid infrastructure around them. I'm a Pelicans fan. Our ownership is clueless, our GM is arguably near the bottom of the league, our coach is showing why he was fired everywhere as a head coach and our roster looks like someone hit auto draft on NBA 2K. Why should I be shunned if I decided to say fuck this, I'm out! And not come back til they prove they are worthy of my attention?
 
Take any team that becomes successful all of a sudden (within a few year stretch) and you'll have tons of new fans, fans that probably never paid attention to the team when they were struggling. Life long fans probably don't care too much for those fans' perspectives.

Who cares about the perspective of life long fans? The only thing bandwagon fans suck for is when they front about being super big sports fans and then get exposed hard when the conversation requires some semblance of knowledge. But if they just enjoy watching a player and a team play and put on a show what is wrong with that? Long term fans act like they are entitled to some medal. Go away honestly.
 

Jonm1010

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Who cares about the perspective of life long fans? The only thing bandwagon fans suck for is when they front about being super big sports fans and then get exposed hard when the conversation requires some semblance of knowledge. But if they just enjoy watching a player and a team play and put on a show what is wrong with that? Long term fans act like they are entitled to some medal. Go away honestly.
If you think about it, the bandwagon fan is the smart fan, emotionally speaking.

The bandwagon fan gets the pleasure of the highs and none of the deep lows.

Guys cheering on organizations that can't seem to figure out how to win shit like my Pelicans are the crazy ones. And yet I am still DVRing or watching every game.
 
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