It's not a vision. It's compromising on image quality and standards just to get some extra performance for eyecandy.
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The Order: 1886 is rendering in 2.40:1 ratio (1920x800), will this be a trend?
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It's not a vision. It's compromising on image quality and standards just to get some extra performance for eyecandy.
Would this be correct? I feel I'm getting a similar effect, unless by squeezed you mean the first one is actually 16x9 instead of squeezing it to 16x9 after the fact.
AuthenticM
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If it's native 21:9 then I'm all for it, as 21:9 TVs are hitting the market, and I'll be getting one eventually. If it's anamorphic and black bars are also present on such television, then fuck this.
Interested to see this in practice. I can appreciate a more panoramic viewpoint and think it could give certain games a unique feel. Back bars have never made me rage out or anything, unless it's directly affecting UI or some in game functionality, but I don't think that'll be the case if it's part of the design.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Or you know, believe they are doing it to get acceptable performance.
Filmic experience
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VibratingDonkey
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Some movies are in weird aspect ratios? Anything that's not the same aspect ratio as my monitor and TV is stupid. I want all of the pixels.
I think they are but there is no benefit of this during gameplay if I have camera control. If I want to see a little bit more ont he left or right I just turn the camera. The developer can not create one framing for everyone that is like his vision. If we go for a game like God of War where you have no camera control I could see it makes sense to create soe nice framing for epic scenes.
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The Everyman
whitta quote all up in this.
Wow, does gaf always get upset for no reason. A developer has a vision for their game and they are wanting to execute that plan to try and introduce something new and people are complaining? It's definitely an artistic choice. They are free to present their game in anyway they feel and I'd hope that common sense will prevail in this thread. Complaining about something you haven't played. Wow. To those on this thread respecting the decision, I give you a solid round of applause for respecting their choice and waiting to make a decision on the game after you have seen more of it. It seems like there's nothing important to complain about so people must find something.
That is not anamorphic. You are talking about aspect ratio directly.
I feel it depends on the game. Shooters with no vertical combat or height are perfectly fine with triple monitor setups. As long as the shorter height does not provide any inconvenience, it should be fine. I don't think that this design choice is affected by hardware performance. On the other hand, the creatures might be crawling on the ceiling.
However, strategy games are best for 1:1 ratio. Many pro players (including me, but I no pro), play in 4:3 resolution. League is off with with 16:9 (my monitor) ratio.
However, strategy games are best for 1:1 ratio. Many pro players (including me, but I no pro), play in 4:3 resolution. League is off with with 16:9 (my monitor) ratio.
SolidSnakex
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Why exactly do you think that? These consoles are brand new, no developer is going to be pushing them that damn hard this early.
So a blurry image?
MGS4 is anamorphic.
The end image isn't stretched in anyway, you render them stretchy to be projected correctly.
drugstore_cowboy
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I play all my PC games around that aspect ratio.
It's great but should only be an option.
It's great but should only be an option.
Marty Chinn
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This is dumb. This is like complaining back in SDTVs with 4:3 aspect ratio when the movies were letterboxed. Movies are designed for a theater screen, not your TV. Why would they limit themselves to a TV aspect ratio?
There are already tons of sub-hd games that still fill up the whole screen. There's no reason to use a different aspect ratio unless it's a look the devs want to use.
Negative. 2.40:1 achieves a specific look and feel. That must be how they wanted to frame the game.
I have NEVER seen what you are talking about... holy shit I would be pissed.
I honestly can't even figure out how that would work.. unless it's a digital non-anamorphic 2.35:1 or such projection.. holy crap I would be pissed. heh.
for film though I believe it's impossible. anything wider than one of the flat ratios needs to be shot with an anamorphic lens.
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The Everyman
without a doubt they get better permanence at 800 but their still in the early stages of development and they could lower the graphical quality to hit 1080 whatever their engine, do you think otherwise?
it's all about which you prefer, they prefer black bars and for their style, i agree.
This.
And from now on, Everything running sub 1080p this gen gets a pass due to "developer vision" yay!
Still pretty sure its their choice and by extension their vision.
No, the PS4 rendered image would make the characters look short and fat. Once stretched they would look normally proportioned.
No, that's still not right. There isn't any way to do it from that source image. Anamorphic would be the game would be outputting a squashed 1920x800 image that would look correct when stretched out to 1920x1080.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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At least it's not 720p...
CassidyIzABeast
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Might as well lock the framerate at 24fps and go full on with the filmic experience.
Poetic.Injustice
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It's an old gaf meme.
DeadRockstar
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As much as I'm not a fan of this, I don't for one minute think they're doing it for performance reasons. It's a style choice.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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Is this confirmed? I highly doubt that the actual game is running at 800p. Will look like absolute shit if true.
anamorphic means the image is rendered with non-square pixels, essentially. in this case they would be rectangles that are wider than they are tall. so then when you stretch the image vertically, those rectangle become perfect squares and the end result is a perfectly represented image
Marty Chinn
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I was just at one this last weekend when I saw Star Trek. I saw the curtain come down from the top to change the aspect ratio. There were no curtains on the side. It was using a Sony 4K Digital Projector too.
shinobi602
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That game is not rendering close to the details necessary for these next gen games.
Even assuming that's the case (and i'd agree in cinema, but here there's a clear trade off that makes it suspicious) it sure shouldn't become a "trend".
Unless everyone has the same vision.
Nope. Your source isn't right.
To make an example: Take a normal 16:9 screenshot, squeeze it to 19:7 for example. Save it. Scale it to 16:9 again
. The 16:7 version is the rendered version. The system will than scale that to 16:9, which makes the aspect ratio right again 1) Render the game is a faulty aspect ratio. The resolution is lower than 1080p
2) scale the image to 1080p. The aspect ratio is now perfect.
The scaling of the image is way cheaper than rendering at higher res.
revolverjgw
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Same, I can't get too upset at this. As long as all those pixels fit snugly, I can deal with the black bars. But I hope this isn't a trend going forward.
Using a smaller or variably smaller horizontal resolution and scaling it up was a pretty big trend last gen, and I fully expect it to see it continue into this one, maybe even at launch. 1680x1080, 1600x1080, 1440x1080, 1360x1080, etc.
We might even get somen fun resolutions that are scaled in both dimensions unequally, like Halo 3's lovely 1152x640.
That's not true. At all. At least not for films.
Not Wario's drawing, it was from this legendary thread some years ago
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346908
the dude used the SD cables on his HDTV tv and drew that pic.
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The Everyman
wouldn't that look stretched out at 1920 x 800 then? which is their goal. cropped 800 also has the advantage of native resolution on 1080 tvs.
So any time you watch a movie filmed in Panavision this is what you're thinking? I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
An artistic choice to go with a wide camera lens has little to do with what you're implying. Wide aspect ratios allow for some great cinematic framing.
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The Everyman
it looks just like this game too, especially the geometry.
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