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Theres Nothing Xbox Can Do to Close Gap Between PS4, Says Pachter
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This is a good example of why Nintendo lost interest in being a direct competitor against Sony and Microsoft in the sense that it's too fiercely competitive for them to realistically do well in.
Microsoft made missteps with Xbox One early on, but while it was fairly quick to make necessary changes in attempt to win back the respect of consumers, it hasn't really made as drastic of a difference as Microsoft had hoped it would by way of price cuts and a non-Kinect Xbox One SKU among other things such as upcoming backwards compatibly with some Xbox 360 titles. If Microsoft's facing such struggles despite having a similarly powerful, multi-media-driven platform with strong third party multiplatform support support and a fairly large and active online community (not to mention having the same cultivated target audience as PS4) , then what chance does Nintendo have offering a direct competitive home console ?
Microsoft made missteps with Xbox One early on, but while it was fairly quick to make necessary changes in attempt to win back the respect of consumers, it hasn't really made as drastic of a difference as Microsoft had hoped it would by way of price cuts and a non-Kinect Xbox One SKU among other things such as upcoming backwards compatibly with some Xbox 360 titles. If Microsoft's facing such struggles despite having a similarly powerful, multi-media-driven platform with strong third party multiplatform support support and a fairly large and active online community (not to mention having the same cultivated target audience as PS4) , then what chance does Nintendo have offering a direct competitive home console ?
Whats to explain? If Sony fucks up , MS can capitalize.
Capitalize on enough mistakes and you close the gap.
Celestial Mortal
Member
Fire Boyes and Sony won't fuck up anymore.
Seriously anytime that guy is on the stage announcing something, it gets announced as multiplat later on.
So many games Sony should've locked down in order to reign supreme...
Edit: sorry for the typo, fixed now.
Seriously anytime that guy is on the stage announcing something, it gets announced as multiplat later on.
So many games Sony should've locked down in order to reign supreme...
Edit: sorry for the typo, fixed now.
^ This in a nutshell.
They look great. Great mix of games.
Wat
jconsolmagno
Member
Not true... Genesis hit 10 mil before SNES.
Pretty much. Ball's in their court to massively fuck something up to make anything shift that much, but it would still take a lot.
Captain obvious strikes again but with ridiculous argument this time.
No what we should assume is that MSFT continuous emphasis with appealing only to the US market close them the door for the European market which is pretty much their only shot at trying to close the gap they have with their closest competition.
Nostradamus was a bullshitter who never properly predicted anything.
Ninja Scooter
Member
He ain't wrong. The console war is over. Even if MS tightens things up in N. America they are getting too thoroughly trounced everywhere else to make up the difference. Having a huge lead in North America is why 360 was the console leader last gen.
Well it certainly would help with the transitions for some.
Bluekaveli
Member
Patcher finally right in his career?
Not sure if this is sarcasm...
Sumio Mondo
Member
"Today we would like to announce that we are going to make nothing but Knack sequels all year and halt development on Uncharted 4, Gravity Rush 2 and The Last Guardian...well, truth be told that game was never in development to begin with, it was nothing more than a tech demo, we did string you idiots along for enough years, didn't we? *chuckles*. We are also no longer having any third party support on our consoles, this will be a Sony dedicated device... dedicated to Knack sequels alone. Thank you."
brickarts295
Member
I mean they could. If the PS3 managed to pull it off after 3-4 years in the market, Xbox One still has a shot. Especially with the "biggest lineup in Xbox history" coming next year XD.
I didn't say Microsoft were totally right, since "who won" is more nuanced than any single metric, but undoubtedly Microsoft did dominate the industry for the bulk of the generation.
Nintendo sold a lot of hardware and a lot of their own games.
Microsoft probably sold the most third party software and lifted their brand up to the next level.
Sony made huge mistakes early on, and lost huge amounts of money, but by the end of the generation got themselves into a fairly decent position.
Who sold the most consoles between Sony and MS is sort of trivial, since that isn't what had the biggest impact on their profitability, or what determined their fates going forward.
Nintendo sold a lot of hardware and a lot of their own games.
Microsoft probably sold the most third party software and lifted their brand up to the next level.
Sony made huge mistakes early on, and lost huge amounts of money, but by the end of the generation got themselves into a fairly decent position.
Who sold the most consoles between Sony and MS is sort of trivial, since that isn't what had the biggest impact on their profitability, or what determined their fates going forward.
This got me.
Goldenroad
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I think a lot of PS4 owners still plan on buying one, myself included, but I'm going to wait until there is a glut of XB1 games that I can get for cheap and a lot more are released. I could see next year being very big if QB, Scalebound, and Recore pan out.
Having said that, even if every PS4 owner buys an XB1, that does not mean XB1 will outsell PS4.
Having said that, even if every PS4 owner buys an XB1, that does not mean XB1 will outsell PS4.
orthodoxy1095
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I tried, but could not find a single instance in which this comment made contact with reality.
I don't think any of the 2016 exclusives will make people rush out and buy an Xbox One.
Even "big" MS exclusives like Halo 5 and Forza 6 seem to have gone by without making much of an impression.
SomedayTheFire
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idk I thought the poster was insinuating they had messed up. i wanted in on that.
Do you mean multiplatform? LOL
I'm sure it's all his fault, GOT DAMN IT ADAM YOU HAD ONE JOB!!
People don't really care, this community not withstanding.
I believe this holiday was their last chance at surpassing sony in US. Halo turned out not to be a major system seller, their biggest exclusive. What other exclusive would even come close? and sony is cheaper as of right now during the second most important month. The gap probably grew in November.
SebastianM
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shit I guess the hidden GPU is real then...
You really think MS will make a comeback this gen because it's easier for people to play FIFA 09 on XB1? People don't really care about BC. It's one of those things that everyones thinks they want, then never uses. I think I've played a few hours of Xenoblade on my Wii U and that's it. I don't recall ever playing a GC game on my Wii.
KZXcellent
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Disaster Nebraska
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He likes to chime in when things are really obviously going one way or another. His "predictions" are usually what end up being reversed. This is yet another case of Pachter speaking up to influence market trends, not to predict them.
He said 20m for Wii U, 120-130m for PS4, and 100-110m for Xbox One as recently as September....
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/pachter-predicts-this-console-generations-sales-numbers
And of course, 2 years ago after the Xbox One's very rocky announcement, he said Xbox One would sell as many units:
http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_will_now_sell_as_many_units_as_ps4_says_pachter.html
He said 20m for Wii U, 120-130m for PS4, and 100-110m for Xbox One as recently as September....
http://www.gamnesia.com/news/pachter-predicts-this-console-generations-sales-numbers
And of course, 2 years ago after the Xbox One's very rocky announcement, he said Xbox One would sell as many units:
http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_will_now_sell_as_many_units_as_ps4_says_pachter.html
This is the worst post I've seen all week
ForsakenLotus
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I don't know, Xbox One does have backwards compatibility.
Why do I get the feeling that this is a joke account that Shuhei Yoshida uses to mess around with Adam Boyes? They're probably both sitting there, pointing at the screen and laughing at this right now.
I'm almost willing to bet that the @KazHiraiCEO account actually belongs to Adam Boyes or Mark Cerny.
Yeah, they have to ride high for many years into next gen. This is the time they build, experiment and hope it pays off next time and please don't stop or do something stupid again.
I knew he said something like that.
He's like six month's behind the curve, how does he get paid to do what he does?
Tatsumi Oga
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Ok Pachter....who gives a shit though?
This has been a fantastic year for Xbox One and next year is looking to be damn awesome for both Xbox One and PS4, so who wins? Gamers. I guess it's unfortunete that they won't be closing the gap, but did anyone actually believe that was going to happen? I'd say Xbox One is doing a real decent job with these third party games, will the gap get bigger? Only time will tell, but at the end of the day...it really matters so little. Long as MS keeps coming with quality exclusives too.....it's all good.
This has been a fantastic year for Xbox One and next year is looking to be damn awesome for both Xbox One and PS4, so who wins? Gamers. I guess it's unfortunete that they won't be closing the gap, but did anyone actually believe that was going to happen? I'd say Xbox One is doing a real decent job with these third party games, will the gap get bigger? Only time will tell, but at the end of the day...it really matters so little. Long as MS keeps coming with quality exclusives too.....it's all good.
Don't you worry. Tier 1 will save Xbox One.
Sony also did a solid job in Europe. I don't see Microsoft doing the same.
Sony also did a solid job in Europe. I don't see Microsoft doing the same.
Got you covered girl.
On topic though. Really the only way I could see Microsoft closing the gap at all is capitalizing on sony's mistakes and continuing with their agressive deals like the ones they offered on black friday.