So after 6 years of moaning that the Wii wasn't HD, now it's moaning about the Wii U not supporting SD? Oh you gamers.
Exactly what I was thinking...
So after 6 years of moaning that the Wii wasn't HD, now it's moaning about the Wii U not supporting SD? Oh you gamers.
I find it funny that people can't grasp the concept that the aspect ratio has nothing to do with the TV being SD or not.anyone else find it funny that up until a week ago there was no hd nintendo console, and now sdtv's have been eradicated from the world?
My SDTV was 16:9.
What Panajev is saying is that it really doesn't have to. A modern GPU can scale an image in a few microseconds.In some cases scaling can have negligible impact on performance, and in other cases it can make a noticable impact. All depends on the game.
In some cases scaling can have negligible impact on performance, and in other cases it can make a noticable impact. All depends on the game. It would also require Nintendo not give the game developer full control over the rendering hardware, which is definitely bad.
And no, a game isn't required to have any code scaling an image before sending it to the Gamepad (some games do it, some don't).
I just don't see why making these compromises would be needed, when it's much better just to design your game to not put critical data where it could be overscanned, or add in an overscan-adjustment option that lets the player adjust the positioning of the HUD.
It would also require Nintendo not give the game developer full control over the rendering hardware, which is definitely bad.
who would give a shit bout this? Upgrade your tv dude, damn. This is a sign, if modern day technology was not.
This thread reminds me of the people bitching about needing the Internet for the Wii-U
After a decade and more of complaining NIntnedo doesn't embrace online enough
I for one still have a 4:3 tv, I got it when there was no such thing as an HDTV, and it still works perfectly. If it were to break I would replace it with an HDTV.
I was still on the fence for a WiiU, and probably would have bought it in a few months, but for me, this is a dealbreaker. Simply because I have no need for an HDTV, and having to buy one would double the price of entry on a WiiU.
If those are your priorities, more power to you.Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe there are more than a few people out there who still play their old, and in some cases, vintage video game consoles and who dont want to put up with the blurry, pixel-stretched mess that an HDTV would afford them?
Your lack of understanding disappoints me, GAF.
Hdmi receivers of good quality are like $200.
But now they aren't satisfying the 5 people left who play HD consoles on SD TVs! Damn Nintendo!!!!
"Well,WIIU doesn't have it?PS4 won't have it too!" best part of these threads,seriously.
I know there's an Overscan issue with Wii U on certain HDTVs, but I feel like this is a bigger issue and severely affects the playability of games. While most of us have HDTVs now I know there are still some GAFers out there who use an SDTV primarily, and if I were one of them I would not buy a Wii U at this point, as you'll see below.
I use an SD TV as my computer monitor.
Yeah?how exactly?I'd say yours takes the cake easily.
Yeah?how exactly?
What I don't understand is why the WiiU wouldn't have "safe screen" rules in its game approval like everybody does. Devs needs to care about that for every console on the market, its hard to believe Nintendo doesn't care for the WiiU. I suspect that the lotcheck rules for approval haven't been respected for most games just because they needed to games out ASAP. This would really be stupid to not have such rules anyways because even HDTVs are overscanning and a large majority of them by default. This is because cable TV didn't adjust itself yet and still displays garbage around the screen sometimes. Thankfully enough, most TVs are having settings for preventing overscan nowadays but it's not like people are knowing about it, what it does or even less how to set it right.
Well wiiu should have supported this for those who have such a TV since nintendo seemed to be a big suuporter of SD.Oh I just love how you call others out without adding anything to the thread at hand.
Well wiiu should have supported this for those who have such a TV since nintendo seemed to be a big suuporter of SD.
Telefunken got them covered:I strongly expect this to become a common complaint in user reviews
"Why does the WiiU's image look borked on my Telefunken?"
Telefunken got them covered:
4:3 TVs with HDMI...?
I mean, this problem sucks for those people and I hope they get a fix soon, but I genuinely did not know this was a thing that existed.
4:3 TVs with HDMI...?
I mean, this problem sucks for those people and I hope they get a fix soon, but I genuinely did not know this was a thing that existed.
Nintendo won't fix it though. People wanted Nintendo to go HD, so it is and it doesn't plan on focusing on the past beyond phoned in legacy support. Hence surround being tied to HDMI only, hence no ethernet port, hence hiding BC behind a wall in the system, etc.
SDTV-Gaf unite!
I have a tv. When it stops working, I'll replace it. Although damn every year Black Friday gets harder to resist.
Do 4:3 SDTVs still exist?
First they were behind the times with no HD support, now they're too far in front of the times with crappy SD support!
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN LOLTENDO!?
But seriously, who has a 4:3 TV anymore? You can get a little HDTV for less than a Wii U these days anyway.
Has nothing to do with 4:3 at all, the Wii U has no problems with 4:3 TV's. It's overscan, which happens a lot more on old non-flat CRT TV's than modern LCD TV's, because you aren't seeing the actual edge of the screen, the screen disappears under the TV's frame, and it's the part that's under the frame where the images you see as cut-off are appearing.
The problem is with the games, not with the Wii-U - the games either need to move important HUD elements to where they should be safe from overscan, or need to have an overscan option that scales the entire image (making it look worse), like you can do in Miiverse and a couple other apps.
I have two well-working SDtvs, why would I replace them with an HDtv? they are doing their jobs just fine, I don't see the point in replacing them before they die.
I got a 42inch 1080p LG tv for way under £300, can I ask how much SD-TV using people are waiting to pay REALISTICALLY for a decent HD-TV?
I don't think it's about the cost. I can afford to buy a better toaster or a coffee maker right this minute but do I really need it?
Oh I just love how you call others out without adding anything to the thread at hand.
I got a 42inch 1080p LG tv for way under £300, can I ask how much SD-TV using people are waiting to pay REALISTICALLY for a decent HD-TV?
The irony of the Wii being SD and then the Wii-U then alienating all SD users is still amusing though.