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Came here for excitement about Nintendo beefing up and getting ready for a big push and got... I have no idea. What even is going on in here
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I'm actually surprised they are still talking to him. If I remember, he's the guy who mentioned that Nintendo should be concerned that Switch sold less than Vita on its second week in Japan.you guys
I'm actually surprised they are still talking to him. If I remember, he's the guy who mentioned that Nintendo should be concerned that Switch sold less than Vita on its second week in Japan.
From what i know, the Genesis was faster but the SNES was 'more capable' in that it could handle larger sprites, more colours, etc.Motorola 6800 says otherwise
Came here for excitement about Nintendo beefing up and getting ready for a big push and got... I have no idea. What even is going on in here
I'm actually surprised they are still talking to him. If I remember, he's the guy who mentioned that Nintendo should be concerned that Switch sold less than Vita on its second week in Japan.
If Pokémon Stars is an actual thing, TPC would likely reveal the game ahead of E3 to not share the spotlight with the other E3 Switch games. As for Splatoon 2, that's assuming that it doesn't drop in June (though to be fair, Nintendo could still spill on info if Splatoon 2 drops later in June).Will we get a Direct before E3? EDIT:
I hope so, otherwise E3 would have to cover:
- Blowout for Mario
- Bigger Blowout for Splatoon (since it releases sooner for Mario)
- Announce Smash Port (I believe it exists)
- Announce Pokemon Stars (I definitely think this exists. Not sure if it's exclusive or cross gen though)
- Announce Mario Rabbids
- Maybe show FE W gameplay
- Likely show Xeno gameplay
- Likely talk about Zelda DLC
And that doesn't even include games that may be announced that be don't know about.
I mean, that's a lot of effin stuff.
Can one E3 cover all those games sufficiently??
CPU yeah, but it was much more capable machine graphically and sonically, colours, sprites on screen, effects, sound channels and effects etc. I mean the Game Boy has a much more powerful CPU than the NES or Master System, but CPU isn't everything.Motorola 6800 says otherwise
If Pokémon Stars is an actual thing, TPC would likely reveal the game ahead of E3 to not share the spotlight with the other E3 Switch games. As for Splatoon 2, that's assuming that it doesn't drop in June (though to be fair, Nintendo could still spill on info if Splatoon 2 drops later in June).
Will we get a Direct before E3? EDIT:
I hope so, otherwise E3 would have to cover:
- Blowout for Mario
- Bigger Blowout for Splatoon (since it releases sooner for Mario)
- Announce Smash Port (I believe it exists)
- Announce Pokemon Stars (I definitely think this exists. Not sure if it's exclusive or cross gen though)
- Announce Mario Rabbids
- Maybe show FE W gameplay
- Likely show Xeno gameplay
- Likely talk about Zelda DLC
And that doesn't even include games that may be announced that be don't know about.
I mean, that's a lot of effin stuff.
Can one E3 cover all those games sufficiently??
I'm fairly certain that the SNES was actually more powerful than the Genesis but your point is still right since that is not why it won the sales battle.
Correct. The SNES was more powerful.
And thank you for clearing up the confusion above. I agree it will likely get some downgraded ports. One thing I'll give the switch is unlike the Wii it's not THAT far behind the other two. Which is good.
CPU yeah, but it was much more capable machine graphically and sonically, colours, sprites on screen, effects, sound channels and effects etc. I mean the Game Boy has a much more powerful CPU than the NES or Master System, but CPU isn't everything.
But 'power' isn't why the SNES won, it was Nintendo games, focused business plan, and Japanese developer support. Games and potential, nobody would ever have said "well Sega has all the games I want, but the SNES has more colours, so I'll get that instead" or vice versa "I really want Mario and Zelda but that Mega Drive CPU is better so I'm getting that".
Desirable hardware, good price for what you get, good games people want. That is the formula for success for a console. Power of the computer plays into all three, but it is always a balance.
While you normally wouldn't be wrong, there's also the possibility of Smash 4 Deluxe being there as well as MvCI & SFV news (the latter two being ones that I'll likely be doing podcasts with Vesper on, mostly on the MvCI front).Splatoon 2 will definitely be after E3 imo. I think it may even be july or august. But I don't see Nintendo having Splatoon skip E3, especially after how E3 helped Splatoon 1.
As for pokemon, yeah TPC would be the one to announce it. But either way, you're going to be devoting a huge amount of time to covering and talking about it during E3 (unless TPC revealed it after E3 of course...)
Thanks, I totally had that wrong.
To clarify, what Jaded Alyx wrote is in line with what I was thinking when I said what I did. I should have also mentioned that aspect in my last reply, sorry. The Switch playing games you would normally find on a console rather than those on a 3DS, is part of what I meant. Anyway, I understand we see the situation differently, and you are entitled to your opinion of course. As you indicated, the proof of its success or failure will be in the pudding.
While you normally wouldn't be wrong, there's also the possibility of Smash 4 Deluxe being there as well as MvCI & SFV news (the latter two being ones that I'll likely be doing podcasts with Vesper on, mostly on the MvCI front).
Peléo;232286762 said:Maybe not a full direct, but I am expecting a smaller one focused solely on ARMS. It launches before the E3 and is supposed to be the bridge between Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon 2. Hopefully, we will get something similar to the Fire Emblem Direct.
If Pokémon Stars is an actual thing, TPC would likely reveal the game ahead of E3 to not share the spotlight with the other E3 Switch games. As for Splatoon 2, that's assuming that it doesn't drop in June (though to be fair, Nintendo could still spill on info if Splatoon 2 drops later in June).
Splatoon 2 will definitely be after E3 imo. I think it may even be july or august. But I don't see Nintendo having Splatoon skip E3, especially after how E3 helped Splatoon 1.
As for pokemon, yeah TPC would be the one to announce it. But either way, you're going to be devoting a huge amount of time to covering and talking about it during E3 (unless TPC revealed it after E3 of course...)
E3 is likely gonna open the floodgates for MvCI, & June is gonna be a month for a new SFV DLC character.
E3 is likely gonna open the floodgates for MvCI, & June is gonna be a month for a new SFV DLC character.
Yeah, I believe ARMS will get a mini direct and PR.
I also think ARMs will launch like Splatoon 1, with free regular DLC.
So I think ARMs will have a presence at e3 because of that
I believe SPL2 has been deconfirmed for June. Nintendo originally said Summer release but since clarified it to H2. I don't have the link handy unfortunately but I remember it pretty distinctly. Obon is August 13-15 so it should be out by then.
Well I feel dumb.wait....when I said "you" I was talking about Treehouse during E3
Which is logical if I didn't keep track of Japanese sales until I joined the forum. Also I was proven right by the initial poster anyway.
Planning and committing to mean different things.
They could be planning 16 million, but only committing to 1.5 million per month 2 months in advance say. So no its not clear.
Anyway, consoles selling is good for the industry, it all needs to be higher
What about Smash?You weren't proven right. The only thing that is proven about the Japanese sales so far is that it is entirely sold out and is selling through whatever is placed on shelves. Just because it sold fewer units than the Vita did in its second week does not mean that it couldn't have sold more if the stock was available to do so.
With Monster Hunter being hinted at for Switch, Nintendo has the possibility of having an all time great holiday season in Japan. If the stars align they have:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (will have legs)
Splatoon 2 (will have tentacles)
Super Mario Odyssey
Dragon Quest XI
Pokemon Stars
Monster Hunter XX Switch
You weren't proven right. The only thing that is proven about the Japanese sales so far is that it is entirely sold out and is selling through whatever is placed on shelves. Just because it sold fewer units than the Vita did in its second week does not mean that it couldn't have sold more if the stock was available to do so.
With Monster Hunter being hinted at for Switch, Nintendo has the possibility of having an all time great holiday season in Japan. If the stars align they have:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (will have legs)
Splatoon 2 (will have tentacles)
Super Mario Odyssey
Dragon Quest XI
Pokemon Stars
Monster Hunter XX Switch
You weren't proven right. The only thing that is proven about the Japanese sales so far is that it is entirely sold out and is selling through whatever is placed on shelves. Just because it sold fewer units than the Vita did in its second week does not mean that it couldn't have sold more if the stock was available to do so.
With Monster Hunter being hinted at for Switch, Nintendo has the possibility of having an all time great holiday season in Japan. If the stars align they have:
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (will have legs)
Splatoon 2 (will have tentacles)
Super Mario Odyssey
Dragon Quest XI
Pokemon Stars
Monster Hunter XX Switch
The psx and ps2 were stronger than the Saturn, dreamcast, 3do, and jaguar, and in some areas stronger than the n64.
The switch is $300 than machines out its class and is barely more powerful than the Wii u and not THAT far off from the Vita, though it is obviously stronger.
Don't forget Nintendo for most of this time has been promoting the switch as a console, not a portable.
Ok cool, just wanted to make sure. I had heard about a melting issue with the tempered-glass ones related I think to the glue, but as long as it will be permanently intact once you do the few hour dry I hope that will be good to go. The dock gets pretty warm so I will be hoping it goes well for you, if you happen to think of it please let me know how it does end up going as I have one of the same protectors but am waiting to apply it till I get more sourced info on the melting issue. Thanks man.
Sure no problem if I remember I will PM you but it will still take 1-2 weeks till I get one most likely. As far as I heard only the non-glass ones had severe issues with the glue but I'll see.
Nintendo made the best open world game ever on Wii U specs. Kind of embarrassing for the rest of the industry.
I think we've reached the point where Nintendo's hardware is no longer limiting the kind of games they can make. They just won't be able to do individual, realistically animated chest hairs like Uncharted 4.
So far I've seen nothing to suggest that PS4 power isn't superfluous in terms of actual game design. MGSV was the most "next-gen" feeling game so far and it was on 360 as well.
Thanks man, whenever you do test it I'll be interested to hear the results. This is the tempered glass issue I was thinking of, BTW: https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5xlfxy/switch_melted_my_screen_protector/.
god can you imagine being in a restaurant or something listening to this thread in real lifeI remember when I cared that much about not being wrong on the internet...
"by that logic", "strawman", "contradicting" why can't this magic happen irl?
Just because it sold fewer units than the Vita did in its second week does not mean that it couldn't have sold more if the stock was available to do so.
This could be said about many other system launches as well. That's why it is too early to tell anything now, whether success or failure. We will need to wait at least a year, I'd say about two years to really have a much better idea.
It's overestimation on my part to say multiplayer on the go being its main appeal. However I still stand that such feature is a strong appeal of the Switch. It's very different from 3DS's 3D where it rarely comes into people consideration when they buy 3DS. The 3D is so half-baked that it dotesn't work most of the time. N3DS, 3DS subsequent hardware revision have better 3D but most people view as a bonus and view its better specs, battery, and screen as its main appeal.Multiplayer on the go is not the main appeal, it's one of many. I don't get why people keep saying stuff like this, a handheld only Switch wouldn't be a replacement for the main Switch, just like how the 2DS was not a replacement for the 3DS, it was just a cheaper entry point with the primary target being kids. Switch is a premium product and it makes sense to have a more entry level SKU that allows people who are just interested in playing the games to get into the ecosystem and then they could sell a dock for the handheld focused SKU as an upgrade path.
This could be said about many other system launches as well. That's why it is too early to tell anything now, whether success or failure. We will need to wait at least a year, I'd say about two years to really have a much better idea.
On its own, 8 million makes enough sense as a starting point. About dab in the center of what 3DS and Wii U first full year shipments were.JStein0222 said:Was the inital 8 million there just to be there to make sure it wasn't a complete bust? Were they always planning to up the number?
"Play the same home console quality games at home or anywhere!" is a better selling point than "Play the same home console quality games at home or a dozen feet away in the home!"flipswitch said:So what's Nintendo doing right this time that it didn't do with the Wii U?
It shipped about that many at least, but considering how few were shipped in the following months I doubt they all sold that quickly.TLZ said:Also didn't the Wii u sell like 3 million in about 2 months?
April 2015 - March 2016 was about 17.7m.Frankfurter said:Has PS4 ever hit 16m in a single year?
Based on past history of revisions and that they normally don't launch those during peak holiday times, along with 3DS still being supported in 2018, I'm guessing early 2019.4Tran said:I suspect that Nintendo will wait a couple of years before releasing a big revision.
Same reason Dragon Quest still uses some NES sounds. That's just what those things have become expected to sound like.AndrewDean84xX said:Slightly off topic, but is there an excuse for Pokemon game on the switch to still make the pokemon sound like they did on the gameboy?
Diprosalic said:it was a bad gag because it's rumoured to be called Pokemon Stars
Code name schmode name. Pokémon Stars / Poké Monstars is the coolest name the franchise has seen in ages.Lexxism said:It's a code name
Switch is such an open concept it'd be a shame to not see different versions catering to different needs. And we've just seen that with 3DS anyway. Regular version, large version, dumb cheap unfoldable 2D version coexisting.Peltz said:I still think they should stick to one model to avoid muddying the Switch concept.
OrbitalBeard said:It's pretty safe to say they aren't just basing this production ramp-up on the first two weeks of sales and nothing else.
I presume watching reaction to the Switch over the last 6 months has affected projections. They said as much, but only in the context of how many might ship through the end of March.massucci said:? And what else? They have a time machine?
I think New 3DS XL is far less portable than GB Micro too.TheGorby said:You think that tablet shares the same portability as the last few Nintendo, atari, Bandai, Sony, and snk portables over the years?
Nintendo made the best open world game ever on Wii U specs. Kind of embarrassing for the rest of the industry.
I think we've reached the point where Nintendo's hardware is no longer limiting the kind of games they can make. They just won't be able to do individual, realistically animated chest hairs like Uncharted 4.
So far I've seen nothing to suggest that PS4 power isn't superfluous in terms of actual game design. MGSV was the most "next-gen" feeling game so far and it was on 360 as well.
So true, which is why Switch having a modern feature set and being much, much more powerful than Wii U is a great sign for current gen games coming out.Nintendo made the best open world game ever on Wii U specs. Kind of embarrassing for the rest of the industry.
I think we've reached the point where Nintendo's hardware is no longer limiting the kind of games they can make. They just won't be able to do individual, realistically animated chest hairs like Uncharted 4.
So far I've seen nothing to suggest that PS4 power isn't superfluous in terms of actual game design. MGSV was the most "next-gen" feeling game so far and it was on 360 as well.
It's the usual song and dance.See you in like 2021 then