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[SJRB]

The fact that Microsoft is resorting to "sold to retailers" to push a 5 million number is... kind of messed up.

 

[Dead]

wonder what customer sell through number really is.

4.1? 4.3?

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Yeah, this is not good.
MS are going to be doing a price drop.

 

[Clarkus Darkus]

Just how did they drop the ball so hard after the success with the 360, Phil better be a genius to get X1 level with the ps4.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

I was about to say great number till I saw *to retailers. Nah

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

wonder what customer sell through number really is.

4.1? 4.3?

Must be poor enough to justify using shipped numbers.

 

[CartridgeBlower]

Love that thread title. GAF being GAF.

EDIT: And title was now changed to shipped, so we all good.

 

[krioto]

Oooooh - they've switched to announcing shipped numbers?

 

[Shin-Ra]

Switched to shipped numbers now.

 

[shwimpy]

wonder what customer sell through number really is.

4.1? 4.3?

Let's give them to benefit of the doubt and say 4.5. There are 500K+ consoles sitting on retailer shelves... wow.

 

[captainraincoat]

that 2 to 1 ratio is sure looking good

still....considering its more expensive than the ps4 its a pretty good number but i suspect if ps4 had more games to play the gap would be more

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

Love that thread title. GAF being GAF.

Pretty sure that is Microsoft's wording not the OP

 

[GeoramA]

"We've manufactured 5 million Xbox Ones!"

 

[Yasir]

Love that thread title. GAF being GAF.

Truth is truth

 

[Tsundere]

Love that thread title. GAF being GAF.

GAF telling it as it is.

 

[spannicus]

Out of 5 mil shipped to retailers, what actually 1 mill sitting in stores still? I would think a large portion of that 5 shipped to consumers.

 

[Alchemist]

Shipped? Oh dear.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Goodbye, Kinect.

Hello $400.

Yep.

 

[djblackice]

Shipped? Eep.

 

[Jburton]

So probably still under 4 million to customers?

Yep, Sony have a comfortable 3 million lead.

I expect Sony to 8 million plus sometime middle of May.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

If you can't beat 'em, stuff 'em.

 

[Uno Venova]

Probably a little over 4 million sold by now.

 

[CartridgeBlower]

GAF telling it as it is.

It was actually just edited to say shipped. I wrote that post when the title was '5 million sold.'

 

[RamzaIsCool]

That means they shipped 1.1 mln in the first 3 months of the year. Sony sold thru 2.8 mln in the same time period. (3 mln+ shipped). It's selling atleast 3:1 currently in Sony's favour!

XBO pricedrop, here we come!!!!

 

[cyberheater]

It would not surprise me if PS4's are outselling Xbox One 2:1 in most places.

 

[djSyndrome]

Tempted to call Bellevue MS store and ask if they have 200 XBox Ones in stock for pickup this evening.

 

[VanWinkle]

Congrats to MS. Doing very respectably, even if it isn't the insane numbers Sony has. Probably 4-4.3m sold.

 

[Canis lupus]

Gap is only growing. Also why did they reveal this info now, their Q results is in a few days, or this info is fresher than March 31 which means they shipped even less.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Xbox One: 311K

The numbers are pretty low IMO.

 

[Nzyme32]

Can someone remind me how long it took for the ps3 to catch up to the 360? I am aware of the time discrepancy between releases being a factor too

 

[GhaleonEB]

It's telling they reported their December sell through, and their March update as sold in to retail. Obviously it's more favorable but I wonder how big the gap really is. They had to switch to make the comparison to PS4 as favorable as possible.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Id probably guess somewhere near 4m sold.

 

[Carl]

Yep, Sony have a comfortable 3 million lead.

I expect Sony to 8 million plus sometime middle of May.

Expecting them to update us at E3 and it'll probably be around 8.5 - 9 million

 

[Linkified]

Ohh, thread updated.

Bahaha, retailers. Just tell the fucking truth.

Fourth line in PR response on Official Xbox site, they say its to retailers in as plain English as is humanely possible. What more do you want them to say?

 

[Iacobellis]

Yep, Sony have a comfortable 3 million lead.

I expect Sony to 8 million plus sometime middle of May.

There are people waiting until The Show comes out to buy a PS4. A game as simple as baseball will be able to sell more units, crazy if you ask me. If TLoU Remastered comes out in June, along with the Destiny beta, I can definitely see them hitting 10M right around E3.

 

[Aliand]

So they only produced 1.1 million in 4 months? Because by the end of Dec 2013 it was 3.9 shipped to retailers.

More like the retailers do not order massively as they must be trying to sell the stock they already have.

I wonder how many were produced but possibly did not get sold at all (even to retailers).

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

It's telling they reported their December sell through, and their March update as sold in to retail. Obviously it's more favorable but I wonder how big the gap really is. They had to switch to make the comparison to PS4 as favorable as possible.

Just once in my life I'd love to sit in on one of those meetings where the discussion on how to twist the news is made.

 

[DudeWithNoName]

Yeah, this is not good.
MS are going to be doing a price drop.

They'd better. They should have price dropped in mid December.

 

[LowEndTorque]

They needed some sort of positive PR to soften the blow of losing NPD during Titanfall and price-cut/bundle/deals month. Looks like shipped numbers were the best they could come up with.

So we can deduce the sell-through number at roughly what? 4.3-4.5M?

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Goodbye, Kinect.

Hello $400.

More like $400 with Kinect

Otherwise what's the point to buy a weaker version PS4?

 

[Shogun1337]

LOL damn.

Edit: I've always been curious though why they don't just... y'know, lie? Say "Oh yeah, 5.5M sold to customers". What stops them from doing that? I feel like a corporation like Microsoft can get away with anything.

 

[razgriz417]

One good piece of news out of this is that at least the xbone has matched the PS4 in attachment rates. Here's hoping that means this year will be the last year of crossgen games

 

[PodcastFips]

Are 1m on shelves a bad guess? Probably too much, huh?

 

[nampad]

Shipped and we don't know how many are still on the shelves. Considering all the deals that have been around lately I guess a lot. Amazon.de sold the console+Titanfall+Forza+additional €20 discount on a game for €429 shortly.

 

[Americanmushroom]

Around 4m sold then?

 

[Foffy]

Ohh, thread updated.

Bahaha, retailers. Just tell the fucking truth.

Companies only tell the truth when it's good news. Otherwise it is observable, shady spin.

Guess which one this is more likely to be?

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

How crazy. What a turnaround this gen. Remember when Sony would brag about sell-in? They must just hope the avg person doesn't understand the difference.

 

[botty]

The absolute decay. People really were right about how drastic a generation shift can be.

 

[Pooya]

they were 3.9m shipped by the end of 2013 iirc, now like 1.1m in nearly 4 months, well yeah it's dead.

PS4 is actually selling like a million per month over the same period.

 

[Falk]

Edit: I've always been curious though why they don't just... y'know, lie? Say "Oh yeah, 5.5M sold to customers". What stops them from doing that? I feel like a corporation like Microsoft can get away with anything.

How do you know 5M sell in isn't the lie and we're all being duped?

??????????