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[VideoGameEnjoyer]

Mr Moose

Can't quote your post for some reason, but yeah I think the main reason people are losing it is because it wasn't there at launch. If the game had launched with the PS account on it since day 1, it wouldn't cause this much uproar.

It was there at launch

Then temporarily removed to reduce stress on the servers which were overloaded at launch.

 

[Mortisfacio]

nProtect which Helldivers 2 uses is also a rootkit anticheat....

nProtect also last I checked has no SOC 2 certs publicly available, which is a red flag. Their GS cert is dated 2006. So it's arguably far less trustworthy since they can't even publicly stay cert compliant.

 

[ManaByte]

At over 100,000 negative reviews now.

 

[FoxMcChief]

 

[adamsapple]

It was there at launch

Then temporarily removed to reduce stress on the servers which were overloaded at launch.

Was it removed after the game released or before in some kind of early-access, stress, period?

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

Was it removed after the game released or before in some kind of early-access, stress, period?

No early access, it was in the first week or two after launch.

 

[ManaByte]

Was it removed after the game released or before in some kind of early-access, stress, period?

It was always there. It just wasn’t required to play.

 

[angrod14]

Don't fix what it ain't broken.

 

[Topher]

At over 100,000 negative reviews now.

Overall. Over 356K positive overall.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

The main issue is that PSN was not required to start the game in the beginning. The reason why other games did not get that reaction was because the account requirement was there from the very beginning.
Granted it hasn't been rolled out yet but I do wonder if it would have dropped the CCU.

 

[Trogdor1123]

What’s the value in doing this? Does it get them better data tracking or something?

 

[mayham2199]

At over 100,000 negative reviews now.

And 4k away from reaching the 24hr peak.

 

[Topher]

What’s the value in doing this? Does it get them better data tracking or something?

It's people just griping about it. People on Steam overreacting. People here overreacting about an overreaction.

 

[FoxMcChief]

It's people just griping about it. People on Steam overreacting. People here overreacting about an overreaction.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

What’s the value in doing this? Does it get them better data tracking or something?

it seems has to do with moderation.

and of course can be used to make their numbers go up

The real answer is to annoy entitled PC users. and thats a win.

 

[Topher]

he ain't wrong

 

[Negotiator101]

Human stupidity always seems to surprise me. You have a massively successful product loved by everyone and then you do this. Way to ruin your income.

What are you talking about?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Human stupidity always seems to surprise me. You have a massively successful product loved by everyone and then you do this. Way to ruin your income.

it was passive income anyway

 

[newtypepilot]

so they won't rage about the game using a rootkit as an anticheat but psn account is where they draw the line.

granted, requiring psn after the game has launched is such a stupid move.

 

[AnotherOne]

AnotherOne

 

[CrustyBritches]

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The real story here is that the new alien race is coming out at the end of May to quell this dumb uprising.

 

[Topher]

 

[Bernardougf]

This is such a lame controversy. At least with Stellar Blade we had pictures to look at.

All controversy should revolve around big tits! Thats just good business... trust me I know

 

[Kilau]

This really isn't a big deal, but I love watching arrogant sony take Ls.

 

[MarkyG]

So...why is this such a big deal? Literally takes like 1 to 3 minutes depending on if you have a psn account already or not. Can only add future benefits I imagine also.

Is this people just crying just for the sake of crying?

Legitly asking.

To me, It isn't a big deal, at all. This is coming from someone who hates having so many launchers installed. It is what it is. If I get such a bee in my bonnet over something like this, I uninstall the game and never play it again.

Some people are forgetting this; Every EA/Ubisoft/Rockstar game you purchase on Steam needs another, separate account + their respective launchers. Also, lots on here have pointed out, you're not being forced to install anything, just sign into a PS account.

Also, the game's store page has had the "Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network (Supports Linking to Steam Account)" on there from day one, they just didn't enforce it until now. Do I like it, no. Do I think Sony are doing it for the reasons they stipulate? Nah.

Certainly not worth the backlash the devs are getting. As Arrowhead's CEO has stated, this is a Sony move, not them.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

And 4k away from reaching the 24hr peak.

It makes sense that it would reach 24h peak considering that today is Friday...

 

[GametimeUK]

The whole argument of "it only takes two minutes to create a PSN ID and link it" etc are kind of missing some points. Regardless of if this was clearly stated to the player before purchasing etc is irrelevant.

1. Why is ot necessary to link ID's? The gane has been working fine unlinked up until now.

2. How does it benefit the customer to link accounts? Some cross progression and trophy integration would be nice.

Sure it may seem like a simple, trouble free step to some, but to some it's the principle of the matter.

The comparison I'm about to make isn't a 1 to 1 scenario, but the act of some people claiming "its simple and only takes two minutes" was actually used here against people who were outraged. When the Xbox One was revealed and you had to go online to play your games and verify your account you had one crowd saying "it doesn't matter, we have Internet blah blah blah". We had another crowd rebelling against it out of principle. I see it similar here. Of course there's plenty of other nuances that have people outraged too over these two situations.

 

[Snake29]

This is just some Super Earth Civil War. It's all part of the lore and we will see the invasion of the new alien race soon.

All these bitches will be back again fighting.

Someone should edit in the steampage on the background here with all the other publisher accounts you need in steam to play the game.

 

[FoxMcChief]

If only Steam users were as good as the Steam service.

 

[FoxMcChief]

All controversy should revolve around big tits! Thats just good business... trust me I know

I’m for big tits. I’m really for big asses and big tits. You can quote me on that.

 

[geary]

If only Steam users were as good as the Steam service.

Phil fuck it up again....

 

[FoxMcChief]

Phil fuck it up again....

We all know this is Phil Spencer’s fault somehow.

 

[Generic]

Issue is PSN doesnt work on some regions. This would break the game, since you need parties to do content or stuck with AI.

The crackheads at the Sony HQ didnt think that through very well.

I doubt this is the case of most people complaining.

 

[DaciaJC]

What are you talking about?

The topic of this thread? Sony made a completely unforced error here from what I can only guess is pure arrogance and the blowback from the community may well affect how successful the game is going forward on PC.

 

[ResilientBanana]

If the game required this from the start, I don’t think anyone would’ve complained.

 

[mayham2199]

It makes sense that it would reach 24h peak considering that today is Friday...

Your right the death of Hell Divers 2 on steam is here.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Your right the death of Hell Divers 2 on steam is here.

Give it some more weeks - I will slide down more and more.

 

[Three]

If the game required this from the start, I don’t think anyone would’ve complained.

It did, they just disabled it to reduce network strain a week later and are reintroducing it back. It has always had "Third Party Account Required" on the game page.

 

[Sleepwalker]

 

[Topher]

If only Steam users were as good as the Steam service.

Tell me about "Xbox tax" again.

 

[Negotiator101]

The topic of this thread? Sony made a completely unforced error here from what I can only guess is pure arrogance and the blowback from the community may well affect how successful the game is going forward on PC.

What Steam reviews would affect player numbers significantly? Setting up an account doesn't seem a big deal does it?

 

[FoxMcChief]

If the game required this from the start, I don’t think anyone would’ve complained.

Narrator: They would have.

 

[AmuroChan]

Issue is PSN doesnt work on some regions. This would break the game, since you need parties to do content or stuck with AI.

The crackheads at the Sony HQ didnt think that through very well.

That's really not an issue. The Philippines do not have PSN accounts natively, but we have many tens of thousands of PlayStation gamers here. When you ask PS support or go to their FAQ, they just tell you to either create a Singapore or HK PSN account.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Do you need Xbox accounts for Call of Duty or Fallout yet on PC or PS5? If not, I look forward to those threads.

 

[Mr Moose]

Do you need Xbox accounts for Call of Duty or Fallout yet on PC or PS5? If not, I look forward to those threads.

I think you need an Activision account for CoD.

 

[R6Rider]

This is fucking hilarious.

 

[StereoVsn]

I think it’s fair to complain about this since it came post purchase. I hate companies sneaking shit in post launch that introduces additional DRM (Capcom can go to hell with their shit), launcher requirements (fuck you Rockstar), and even this fairly minor crap that can lead to more once Sony gets their own god damn launcher.

 

[DaciaJC]

What Steam reviews would affect player numbers significantly? Setting up an account doesn't seem a big deal does it?

Potential new buyers may be put off by seeing a bunch of negative reviews and people who already purchased may stop playing.

It's not that creating a PSN account is complex or time-consuming. The point is PC players generally hate companies forcing arbitrary requirements upon them that provide no benefit to the end user, or worse, may actually put their personal data at risk (see this post for a list of all the times Sony accounts have been hacked in the past).

 

[RyanEvans21]

Do you need Xbox accounts for Call of Duty or Fallout yet on PC or PS5? If not, I look forward to those threads.

You need bethesda account to download mods on console.