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Haters: Would you rather have David Cage making games, or Uwe Boll making movies?
David is French... so he is avant garde and artsy.
Luc Besson is French. Your argument is invalid.
Haters: Would you rather have David Cage making games, or Uwe Boll making movies?
David is French... so he is avant garde and artsy.
It's getting interrupted by shooting and stealth sections. Beyond replaces those with different gameplay and aims to not have any repetition."The story getting interrupted by the gameplay"
This statement makes me feel like an old conservative.
Beyond Two Souls should be about collecting items, dangerous platforming, and fail states. In 2D. Dammit! *yells at cloud*
If you liked IP throughout, Beyond is a must buy. It's the better Indigo in many ways.Did anyone else enjoy Indigo Prophecy immensely?
People who have played Beyond, and enjoyed Heavy Rain Is it worth a buy now, or better off to wait until Christmas?
Heavy Rain also got glowing reviews and benefited from being one of the earlier showcases of the PS3.people saying bomba, ok heavy rain stayed pricey for a long ass time, so if someone is genuinely considering waiting for a "bomba" when do you reckon that will be and based on what?
Are you talking about the part where Ellen Page gives a hobo a blowjob? At least, I remember hearing a lot about that.
Luc Besson is French. Your argument is invalid.
By world building I don't mean sandbox games or open world games.
ff7 built an interesting world with interesting places, bioshock infinite tries to do the same.
I enjoy it when a videogame is a place of wonder, you don't have to write down 200 pages of tolkien esque tropes (more like tripe) or shitty cop drama/thriller to tell a story, you can just have an interesting world that the player wants to visit and explore.
A cool world can be combined with gameplay, character exposition mostly can't.
I like VLR too but that doesn't pretend to be a game, it's a virtual novel with some puzzles, it's 90 percent dialog and reads like a book. (although I think it's also poorly paced, but that's because they make you skip through the story over and over again and redo choices to get to the proper ending, blurgh)
You don't even run around with a character you just interact with a UI and forward dialog.
Heavy rain tried to pretend to be a game, and it was a poorly paced game with terrible gameplay that was boring to play, the story pacing was held down by the gameplay and vice versa.
Imagine if they mixed VLR with recettear dungeon crawling or persona turn based battles and grinding , it would destroy the pacing of the story even more, then imagine they'd try to inject the story into every moment of the gameplay and you'd end up with something like heavy rain.
I think for example if you stripped the drama out of attack on titan it would leave an interesting world to make a videogame out of, but they could never turn the manga interactive and it not be a pile of shit.
Except for the good reviews. Like Rev3, GameSpot, Polygon.the reviews are so confusing about this game
but they all agree that the story progression is a mess
the reviews are so confusing about this game
but they all agree that the story progression is a mess
Congrats on not knowing what the word "most" means.Never heard of Gamespot? Polygon? What a load of crap.
It has a 74 on metacritic, that is a mixed score.
74 on metacritic more or less defines "mixed"
Given the fact that games are reviewed on a 7-10 scale, isn't a metacritic of 74 a bit of a disaster? Don't get me wrong I'll still play it and probably enjoy it but DC has gotta see that as a failure
Yeah, it doesn't matter that the game is disjointed, poorly written mess with dumbed down controls even compared to HR, where you feel like none of your actions matter and story progresses even without your input at all. Yeah, they just want action poof-poof.I find reviewers who give this a low score expecting it to be played more like another conventional shooter, action adventure !!
Given the fact that games are reviewed on a 7-10 scale, isn't a metacritic of 74 a bit of a disaster? Don't get me wrong I'll still play it and probably enjoy it but DC has gotta see that as a failure
Ya, pretty much. If Game Informer gives something less than an 8, you know it's bad.
Well, it's getting anywhere from a 2/10 to a 10/10. So it's a little different than a game getting straight 6s.Given the fact that games are reviewed on a 7-10 scale, isn't a metacritic of 74 a bit of a disaster? Don't get me wrong I'll still play it and probably enjoy it but DC has gotta see that as a failure
Did anyone else enjoy Indigo Prophecy immensely?
People who have played Beyond, and enjoyed Heavy Rain Is it worth a buy now, or better off to wait until Christmas?
Yea but at the same time Gamespot is known to be very harsh with their reviews and they tossed this a 9. Seems like you either love it or hate it like the other QD games.
Ya, pretty much. If Game Informer gives something less than an 8, you know it's bad.
Yeah, it doesn't matter that the game is disjointed, poorly written mess with dumbed down controls even compared to HR, where you feel like none of your actions matter and story progresses even without your input at all. Yeah, they just want action poof-poof.
Yeah, it doesn't matter that the game is disjointed, poorly written mess with dumbed down controls even compared to HR, where you feel like none of your actions matter and story progresses even without your input at all. Yeah, they just want action poof-poof.
Damnit...my order is about to ship. Dunno if I should cancel it. Reviews are all over the place... Loved Heavy Rain. Any advice GAF?
I don't want to derail this thread too much, but do any of the reviews give an idea on average play-time? Like is this something I can play through in one sitting? I'm trying to avoid story spoilers so I've been avoiding the reviews. Sorry if this was covered before, I haven't been following the thread too closely.
Damnit...my order is about to ship. Dunno if I should cancel it. Reviews are all over the place... Loved Heavy Rain. Any advice GAF?
Sort of the game has nothing to do with it. I'm a big fan of Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain, but Beyond is not good. It has no story to justify a lack of gameplay and no gameplay to justify poor story. However you look at it, it doesn't get better.I can see why this sort of game wouldn't appeal to certain people, so I'm not too surprised by that coming from you.
Damnit...my order is about to ship. Dunno if I should cancel it. Reviews are all over the place... Loved Heavy Rain. Any advice GAF?
100%. I don't like their games, but that's not because of controls or that I think games need to be a certain way or that I think Cage should be making movies -- I don't like their games because story and character are at the core of them, and Cage is a bad writer.These games would be far less polarizing if they were written at a higher quality level. If Quantic Dream sits back and say "our games are just polarizing", I feel they're doing a disservice to themselves.
They do many things right and their games have been beautiful, but the writing (and voice acting, in Heavy Rain's case) majorly hold them back.
Damnit...my order is about to ship. Dunno if I should cancel it. Reviews are all over the place... Loved Heavy Rain. Any advice GAF?
I don't want to derail this thread too much, but do any of the reviews give an idea on average play-time? Like is this something I can play through in one sitting? I'm trying to avoid story spoilers so I've been avoiding the reviews. Sorry if this was covered before, I haven't been following the thread too closely.
Even if you end up with a negative opinion of it, getting to that point in assessing it yourself has a lot of value for me personally. Being able to have an informed view in conversations will put you ahead of, let's be honest here, about 90% of people criticizing/complimenting it. Having enjoyed Heavy Rain suggests you'll be able to like it for the well-executed parts.
While I'm pretty sure I wouldn't ultimately enjoy the game (similar problems to their other games), give it a go, unless money is a concern. There's nothing wrong with playing games you might not enjoy.
smhBeyond: Two Souls is a seriously flawed experiment in interactive storytelling. Is there a game to be found? This reviewer is still looking.
Play it, beat it, return it citing defect issues and get money back.