Yeah, i think MS will do a much better job for the layman, that difference is all that matters in real terms, which i feel they'll learn from Sony's botch job of a message. We had to get Gaffers scramble a thread together so they can assess what Pro games had to offer over PS4 games.
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[Digital Foundry] New Scorpio Spec Leak: ESRAM Gone, GPU Features Revealed
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Yeah, i think MS will do a much better job for the layman, that difference is all that matters in real terms, which i feel they'll learn from Sony's botch job of a message. We had to get Gaffers scramble a thread together so they can assess what Pro games had to offer over PS4 games.
franklyshankly
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Lol, did a double take on that.
GarthVaderUK
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It seems people were getting hyped that Scorpio might be better than what MS announced at E3 2016, and this document from July 2016 has now made them lose faith in their own hype (which makes no damn sense, if they were hyped about thinking there could be a recent upgrade, why does a July 2016 document suddenly make them disappointed? lol).
Not going to work with Kinect games.
Should of told me to jfgi.
Cheers anyway, just seen. Interesting, wonder what has changed and even if he's right?
Okami Haundo
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It means Kinect 2.0 is finally dead.
don't really think MS cares about outselling Sony in terms of hardware at this point. It's all about getting a few more folks into their ecosystem
Hey, that's what Albert Penallo said.
Lol you would. Not helping your cause though, I can tell you as much.
Sweet...now we are fake quoting people
Collateral22
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An intel CPU might not be a bad investment for the next gen of consoles, I'd pay 450-500 for a machine that I know would have legs considering how subtle the improvements in CPUs are lately.
It will be a 4k console, just more like the pro. In the end, both are "sort of" 4k consoles, just like now ps4 and xbox are both sort of 2k consoles.
MilkyJoe
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You little monkey
The all was attached to accessories, too. It's possible there's no support for the kinect or a TV tuner.
People were expecting Goku, but the reality was always Vegeta.
RichiRamjag
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Don't feel you need to back down. You called a spade out for what it really was. No one has to wear kid gloves for anyone on here.
Eff what the devs think, that's why I make it mandatory.
Show off Low/Med settings at 30fps (X1) vs High/Ultra settings at 60fps (Scorpio), consoles fly.
Microsoft's incredible aggressive messaging will surely try very hard to drive the point. They had "best selling console. Only place to play 4K movies and games" last year despite being pretty misleading and now they will definitely go to town with the marketing. That's one thing we can give them.
That being said, these specs are disappointing. It won't really give them enough of a distinguishing factor to get a serious leg up on PS4. Maybe they'll outsell Sony in NA for a few months, but that's it.
Saiyan saga:
Switch in portable mode is Yamcha
Switch in docked mode is Krillin
PS4 Pro is Goku
Scorpio is Vegeta
Jean Valjean
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Well, Mark Cerny did say that a true 4k console should have a minimum of 8TF...
Bits N Pieces
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Stop it Albert. This is serious for some on here, like really serious. I saw someone post one of your comments on here from 2013, TODAY!! As some way to disparage your opinions and credibility.
And as you can see your post here triggers' two types of responses where some will be delighted with anything and everything you say and the other goes on the attack as their insecurities bubble to the surface.
Like I said, this is serious business for some. If I were you id pour a single malt, spark up a Cuban and piss my pants reading this thread as it goes one way then another.
How long till E3 again, lol.
Wonder if that's what Frankie was referring to with the "its beefier than expected" comment?
Omnistalgic
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what are you talking about? In the Phil Spencer thread apparently a dev just stated today PS4P is half-assed and Scorpio is what a console release would look like in 2017? Come on, all of this hype isn't just manufactured out of GAF's ass.
MS also made it pretty clear in the marketing that Scorpio is a true 4K machine and it will be a magnitude better than what you were getting from Pro. GAF is crazy, but it ain't that crazy.
OdysseusVA
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#JustFanboyThings
LostDonkey
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What reveal? It's all guesswork until 100% confirmed.
You've raised a good point there. I wonder if the expected was the white paper and it's different? Hence the beefier as expected comment.
This paper is from July 2016 after all.
Omnistalgic
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Pro sold like a quarter million in U.S in December and are having supply issues?
Seems more like wishful thinking on your part.
Can you show this marketing? Has there been any marketing since last E3, when the Pro wasn't even announced?
This thread is weird.
Okami Haundo
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I thought that was just a partnership with Wendy's?
JetSetRadio
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It'll play mantis burn racing in 4k.
I don't think Microsoft really expects people to jump from PlayStation to Xbox with Scorpio.
They're really just trying to prevent people from leaving the Xbox ecosystem.
thelastword
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What 2.12 TF gap exactly? when you answer that...answer me this...
Take an RX480 downclocked like the PRO and overclock it so that it matches the 6TF math requirement, tell me how huge the framerate is going to be? Don't expect a 15-20fps increase, don't expect a 30fps increase....So when you say huge, it's impractical, it's basically the same GPU. the same architecture on the PRO upclocked. To make it more practical, take an RX 480 at it's current 5.8TF capacity, then increase it's memory and core frequency to match 7.8 or 8TF (MR), tell me how much you expect framerate to increase realistically?
Remember, these consoles will have the same GPU arch, based on the same reference model and the same can be said of the CPU too.....that says it all, with reference to perhaps tempering expectations in touted "huge performance gains over pro"...........
#alternativefacts
I love this immature fanboy brabble.
playing rdr2 with the best possible visuals
The Mad Draklor
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12GB of GDDR5 is pretty beefy, imo.
If this is true and ps4 pro is cheaper by holidays oh boy.
Head.spawn
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Pretty much what should've been expected.
Phil Spencer even went as far as to say that if they launched 2016, it would've been about the same specs as the Pro.
You're joking. It's still a portable Wii U. C'mon.
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