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Sanders campaign requests removal of 2 DNC members, threatens to halt convention
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Jeffolation
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Regarding his issue with Malloy, is it primarily due to the Governor dinging Sanders on his position on gun control? I'm trying to digest this whole thing, I apologize for the questions.
soul creator
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http://fair.org/home/the-myth-that-sanders-hasnt-been-criticized-wont-go-away/
"Congress is crooked" is like, probably one of the most universal political opinions in the country, lol.
They already gave him concessions, this isn't the Bernie party. He needs to learn to take the L and stop throwing temper tantrums. Call a spade a spade man. This does nothing to further his message.
Basically his entire platform.
whyamihere
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Because at this point you're attacking people who you don't like instead of actually trying to reform any process.
Boo hoo Barney Frank said mean things about you! You lost! Get over it, you are an adult.
I mean, Sanders has not been attacked about how poorly he handled the VA scandal. His love of Fidel and other tyrants. Saying he's going to raise your taxes. His honeymoon to the USSR.
Also, his colleagues hate him not because they're liberal, but because he's kind of an ass. That's why Sherrod Brown and Wyden went for Hillary.
BearFlexington
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I wish I had your sense of oneupmanship but this isn't about being right, it's about the future of our planet. Sanders may be a joke to you but of the three remaining players he's the only one not planning to ratchet up war. War. Yes, an ambiguous and overused term for us here in the US but it is very real for the people of Syria and the people of Europe by proxy.
Hillary has plans for Syria and for the world. Oh, she won't tell you or me, but she will tell the Council on Foreign Relations. Listen for yourselves, or don't. If you actually care to learn about your candidate, you might notice the difference in her tone from the speeches you get to hear. She is composed, certain, and specific about how Syria and Iran haven't seen the worst of what the greatest military the world has to offer.
But it ain't over until l it's over and as a Californian I plan to do my part to keep this hawk out of office.
eBay Huckster
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Literally his entire platform.
(It's funny because she was running on half of this shit before him!)
Dubbedinenglish
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Seriously. Barney fucking Frank is ten times the man Sanders will ever be. He actually has done shit in his tenure and has actually been fighting for progressive ideas.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Well, I take back my earlier statement of 3, and change it to 4 people.
HP_Wuvcraft
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What a sore loser. That is not how it works.. jesus.. how was this guy in congress as long as he was/is? He clearly doesn't have a diplomatic bone in his body. We dodged a bullet.
hammysaurusrex
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Bernie is not going to be VP, he fulfills none of the criteria they are looking for in a VP.
The VP position does not work the way you think it does as a silver medal. People really should know better.
The VP position does not work the way you think it does as a silver medal. People really should know better.
Shoulda moved to New Jersey.
U know what he's also not?
1 of the remaining players
It`s over
eBay Huckster
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Notice, though, that at no point in that demand does he call for Clinton to break up the banks.
Liberty4all
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That all sounds good? So maybe he feels staying in the race is the only way to push these issues?
No need. They are going to break up themselves.
eBay Huckster
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Half of that sounds like shit Clinton already had in her platform before Sanders even announced (climate change, infrastructure, and a minimum wage hike) and the other half ignores empirical economic and political realities (single-payer, speculation tax as anything but Pigouvian, and "cuddling up to the fossil fuel industry").
Aaron Strife
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And? 90% of the country approved of Bush at one point.
People disapprove of Congress because they hate the other party.
Aaronology
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balladofwindfishes
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The loser doesn't get to demand his entire platform be adopted.
He comes to the table with that long list and he'll get laughed at.
He wants more, I guess. Exercising his personal vendetta against two fellow Dems doesn't further his message, agreed, and I think it's unnecessary. There's been a lot of flailing coming out of the Sanders camp. It would have been better to go out with dignity by staying on-message. The early campaign was very good at that. Too good, even.
I'm just tired of it all at this point. Bring on the damn general election! I think a lot of us Sanders supporters will be much more excited about Hillary once we see Trump's buffoonery as Republican nominee.
Never denounces what his supporters did in NV; says that democracy can get 'messy' and he hopes his supporters voices are heard, then threatens to grind the democratic convention to a halt. I'm not saying A connects to B which connects to C; but I'm sure his BernardorBust supporters are good at connecting the dots.
Anyway, this is why I originally advocated for him getting no say at the convention. Start from a place where he has to beg to be relevant, to select a few delegates. The fact the DNC so quickly acquiesced into letting him have a large say has led to another faux temper tantrum where he gets to claim the establishment is out to get him because he can't have everything he wants.
This is petulant childish behavior and there is no other way to spin it now. DNC needs to look through their convention rules and just find ways to oust him. Dude has long since worn out his welcome in the primary and in the democratic party.
As an aside, I still want to know how he thinks he can win this primary. I know he is like banking on a miracle in California, and also the superdelegates to magically decide to drink his Kool-Aid. But with his behavior as of late - how is he working toward either of those goals?!
Anyway, this is why I originally advocated for him getting no say at the convention. Start from a place where he has to beg to be relevant, to select a few delegates. The fact the DNC so quickly acquiesced into letting him have a large say has led to another faux temper tantrum where he gets to claim the establishment is out to get him because he can't have everything he wants.
This is petulant childish behavior and there is no other way to spin it now. DNC needs to look through their convention rules and just find ways to oust him. Dude has long since worn out his welcome in the primary and in the democratic party.
As an aside, I still want to know how he thinks he can win this primary. I know he is like banking on a miracle in California, and also the superdelegates to magically decide to drink his Kool-Aid. But with his behavior as of late - how is he working toward either of those goals?!
TheLostBigBoss
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She won't tell us guys, but she'll keep what she really thinks a total secret on this youtube video that anyone can easily see.
You're all blind sheep!!!
Enough to cause a ruckus and run an independent bid with. Enough to demand changes to the DNC platform. Some folks might not like it and rage to hell and back but they'll certainly have to digest it aka deal with it. Those clamoring for "unity" should most of all understand the benefits of giving Bernie his due. I guess the expectation of some was for him to go out like a sore loser with a tail between his legs. I guess people get too caught with Hillary's concession in 08 but if you really think about it; what did she lose in Obama's platform? Exactly.
Yeah, this is a bit much. It's tiring.
eBay Huckster
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Good luck making it onto any state ballots when basically all of the filing deadlines are before the DNC.
TheLostBigBoss
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Hillary literally is for all these issues (shit Sanders even lifted the Flint issue right from her)
But like Barney said, if you don't agree with Sanders completely you're a shill who is against the world and the world is behind Bernie, but the corruption just won't let the light shine through
He missed the chance to run independent.
This is so upsetting, especially after the DNC just gave in to some of his demands and gave him nominating privilege for the committee (and he fucking chooses lunatic West, fuuuuck)
Sue the DNC to change their deadlines, of course. That seems to be the goto move for Sanders and primaries. Berniebros recently filed for an injunction in Cali to change the primary registration dates and to push back the vote itself.
Sue the DNC to change their deadlines, of course. That seems to be the goto move for Sanders and primaries. Berniebros recently filed for an injunction in Cali to change the primary registration dates and to push back the vote itself.
I guess he could endorse Jill Stein but that's about it.
BigJonsson
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How do you primary an Independent?
They just have to actually run a strong candidate
eBay Huckster
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How do you primary an Independent?
They just have to actually run a strong candidate
I'm still assuming he runs as a D to try to head off anyone toward that end, not like it's gonna stop Al Giordano or someone similar
BotoxAgent
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Yeah, this is getting dangerously close to truther and birther levels of stupidity. Embarrassing.
Dubbedinenglish
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How do you primary an Independent?
They just have to actually run a strong candidate
Because he caucused with the DNC, they didn't field a candidate.
He's too late to run independent.
whyamihere
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Again, what does replacing Very Progressive Barney Frank on the committee actually do besides satisfy a personal vendetta from someone?
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Left wing version of the Tea Party, here we come.
That time is past.
eBay Huckster
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Sates the bloodlust of Left Trump, alias Bernie 2016, Inc. ("The Campaign"), for exactly 3 hours
streetsahead123
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This is exactly the kind of shit Bernie supporters villainize Hillary for.
Aaron Strife
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If I were Frank I'd tell Bernie this:
If Bernie wins California, I'll step down.
If Bernie loses California, he has to drop out of the race and give a rousing endorsement speech the day after.
If Bernie wins California, I'll step down.
If Bernie loses California, he has to drop out of the race and give a rousing endorsement speech the day after.
soundscream
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I'm so looking forward to voting against his ass in the NJ primary.
The last thing we need is a Green Tea Party.
Democrats are not Republicans, all it will do is fracture the liberal vote into the fundamentalists and the pragmatists.
While the GOP votes Lock step in pure fear and hatred resonated in their echo chamber.
Get a fucking grip progressives. You're fighting the wrong battle and betting the war.
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