The Vita user base in Japan right now is much higher than that of the PS4 though.
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New Dengeki PlayStation Interviews (Gravity Rush, Capcom, Granzella)
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I got this:
Dragons Dogma 2
DMC5
Disaster Report 4
2 PSV titles
1 adventure PS4 title
MGR2
Toukiden 2
VF6
GR2 PS4
Stone Ocean
Member
You actually think Sony would just release GR2 instead of canning it if the only option was a Vita release? lol
The game wasn't exactly far off in development. It was a much better idea to upgrade it into a console game to take advantage of the PS4's momentum than willingly send it to die on the Vita wasteland.
Unsurprising at this point. Just glad to hear that they are still working on it. Hopefully we'll get a bit more and maybe a Japanese release in 2015.
XOMTOR
Member
How well did GR1 sell anyway?
As for multiplat, I can't imagine it. If GR2 is developed focusing on the PS4 properly, the Vita version would be so far removed that it'd almost be a different game. Imagine something like Infamous:SS getting downported to Vita. *shudders*
Jimmyfenix
Member
Me too kev!
It's the reality of the market. Vita has no place in the current market, it only appeals to a niche of core gamers and Sony has acknowledged it long ago when COD and AC:Liberty failed to sell, at the end of 2012. They have tried to reinvent the system in different ways, first as the home for innovative and great indie titles, then they tried to place it as a PS4 companion hardware with the remote playing...now it's basically whatever they can still get with minimum costs working close with a few developers to keep their installed base alive.
Also in your list you don't mention that all the titles they made for Vita including Gravity Rush, Killzone Mercenary and Tearaway bombed.
Continuing making Vita titles in this environment is just a waste of resources and people have to accept it.
Gravity Rush will find a much better home on PS4 where it can hope to be recognized, sell well and become an other important Sony series.
On Vita it would be sent to die just to please what....100k potential customers?
Mass_Pincup
Banned
No I said that they canned every unannounced Vita games from WWS with GR2 being the exception because they most likely moved it to PS4. If they didn't moved it to the PS4 it would have been canned, that's what is pissing me off.
And the wasteland is Sony's fault, they should have handle the release schedule better.
COD Vita is a shit game and everyone knows it, AC isn't specially great either.
I'm not sure GR bombed IIRC they wouldn't even release a retail version for it in the West but I could be wrong. KM was sent to die by releasing it close to GTAV, Tearaway in November wich is an busy month every year regarding bi games and AC:L and COD Vita released close to their console counterpart which hasn't helped either.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Fixed that for ya.
Glad to see Gravity rush on PS4. Hopefully its PS4 exclusive so they can push the scope of the game, and hopefully an HD port of the first one.. I feel for the Vita fans,but its a fact that the platform is flatlined. The resources are better put to where they actually are going to make a difference.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I love it, but Sony made their bed with that thing. No sense putting GR2 on it in the current environment. It would be a complete diservice to the IP.
Stone Ocean
Member
These Knack avatars are driving me bananas
The only thing GR2 being a Vita game could accomplish is killing off the franchise and fuck that shit. My Vita does not need it, I'm satisfied with what I have, it's best for GR to go to a console where it might have a chance of being something instead of sinking alongside the Vita.
They could have handled a lot of things better as far as the Vita goes, but GR2 has nothing to do with that.
The only thing GR2 being a Vita game could accomplish is killing off the franchise and fuck that shit. My Vita does not need it, I'm satisfied with what I have, it's best for GR to go to a console where it might have a chance of being something instead of sinking alongside the Vita.
Honestly, I agree. I bought a Vita because I wanted the games, I didn't buy games because I wanted a Vita. I much prefer all of Sony's efforts being focused on one console. Tearaway and now Gravity Rush coming to PS4 would mean I could sell my Vita in good conscience and I'd be happier for it.
Not being able to play a game like Killzone: Mercenary until the next Guerilla Cambridge game will sting a bit, though.
Whatever he's referring to, I hope he's not involved with DMC5.
A year without a Platinum title is like a year without sunlight. You look forward to it when it's not there, it's usually very enjoyale but it's not always good for you.
It sold like 30-40k. It's not much but most Japan Studio games have relatively small budgets so it probably sold well enough to get a sequel. Outside of the ICO team, Sony Japan Studio's games generally don't really push the envelope so I think it's quite possible.
CoD and AC: L didn't fail to sell. CoD sold a shitload even though it was penned by the press and had probably the worst word of mouth (by people who didn't play it) in the history of gaming. Not bad for a game developed in 5 months.
AC: L did at least 600k (CoD did more) and Guillemot himself said it did ok.
Tearaway bombed but I am not certain about the other games. We only have NPD numbers but in Europe the Vita sells much better.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
The thing is I don't thing releasing GR2 on PS4 will give it a chance at being relevant. Knowing Sony they will release it alongside one of the biggest game of the year without any marketing like they did with so many others.
Where did you got that number?
Not a bad game by any stretch, but it was too difficult for me to get into.HE WILL FUCKING RETURN!or GRAY FOX!
It was its first week sales from mediacrate. I checked back and it's actually 43k.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/02/1...suikoden-returns-gravity-rush-speeds-to-vita/
It sold over 100k a month later.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/03/28/gravity-rush-crosses-100000-mark-in-japan/
Yes, I agree with this. Sony has a lot of good games that don't sell great and Gravity Rush will be one of them.
Nightengale
Member
PS4 release will have >0% chance.
A Vita release will have a 0% chance, by the simple logic that Sony's given up on putting any real marketing dollars into Vita at all.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Stone Ocean
Member
I'm not saying making it a PS4 game guarantees success
I can say however that making it a Vita game is a death sentence
Yup, ChooChoo it is.
Sorry, but 0% is bullshit and you know it. Games can be profitable on Vita. All this dead talk is getting really out of hand. It isn't a great platform for releases but still a viable.
Same as above.
Naughty_Doge
Member
These threads are great to be filled in on rumours and/or leaks. Can't wait for Gravity Rush!
Vita fans screaming for gr2 are literally my favorite thing ever. Its like that feeling right before you catch a fly that has been bothering you while you try to eat.
No it had 0% chance. The game has already been in development for a while and will be in dev at least another year.
Sony is not even giving big games retail releases in NA anymore. What will it take for you guys to get it? It's not because they like being "mean to vita" or whatever.
No it had 0% chance. The game has already been in development for a while and will be in dev at least another year.
Sony is not even giving big games retail releases in NA anymore. What will it take for you guys to get it? It's not because they like being "mean to vita" or whatever.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
It depends what you consider a success. 100K? 600K? 1M? I think the Vita can do it WW.
I am not surprised.
Stone Ocean
Member
"Gravity Rush 2 Vita is dead" tag incoming?
It sold 100k in Japan alone in roughly a month though.
Oh my god. Are we finally getting Zettai zetsumei toshi 4? Bumpy trot 2? IS THIS REAL LIFE?
I don't think it would sell any more than that on PS4 anyway. The audience for that style of game just hasn't formed on the platform yet.
Stone Ocean
Member
That was 2 years ago. Not sure how it'll fare nowadays.
I was contradicting his statement. Nothing else. Besides, it should hopefully sell better this time around with the larger install base
Define relevant?
I am talking about being profitable and there are enough Vita games that are. It won't be a blockbuster but the chance of GR2 being a blockbuster on PS4 are nearly the same. Game doesn't cry mass appeal with its unconventional gameplay, artsy world, crazy and weird story and faux french voice over.
they should stop making lbp.
Naughty_Doge
Member
It's good to see Sony saving some worthwhile IPs from the Vita wasteland. First Tearaway and now Gravity Rush apparently. I'd be ok if they ported Soul Sacrifice and Freedom Wars.
Also, I really hope Sony/Atlus port Persona 4 Golden before the Persona 5 release. I want to play P4, but I don't feel like buying the PS2 version knowing that there's a better, upgraded version out there and that maybe, just maybe they might port it.
Also, I really hope Sony/Atlus port Persona 4 Golden before the Persona 5 release. I want to play P4, but I don't feel like buying the PS2 version knowing that there's a better, upgraded version out there and that maybe, just maybe they might port it.
If lbp stands for LittleBigPlanet, I'll let you know that IIRC both LBP1 and 2 sold around 5 million copies WW.
Nightengale
Member
So you think 10+ months from now, with over 25 million PS4s minimum, it'll still haven't formed yet?
It isn't relevant anymore.
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOD
Nightengale
Member
That's why a F2P version is being developed (LBPHub), and Media Molecule's working on a new IP.
Is LBP Hub still alive? I thought it got turned into LBP3 ?_?