But isn't the PS4 version do drop below 30 while the XB1 version never does?
It means that if you will cap the XB1's version it will be locked 30 unlike the PS4 or I'm missing something here/
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But isn't the PS4 version do drop below 30 while the XB1 version never does?
It means that if you will cap the XB1's version it will be locked 30 unlike the PS4 or I'm missing something here/
It makes no sense to cap the PS4 at 30 fps and don´t do the same for the Xbox One.
My guess is that the dynamic resolution doesn´t work at the moment.
Instead of running at a higher framerate the game probably should run at a higher resolution at that moment.
Maybe they should offer an option for 900p and locked 30 fps.
My guess is that the dynamic resolution doesn´t work at the moment.
Instead of running at a higher framerate the game probably should run at a higher resolution at that moment.
Maybe they should offer an option for 900p and locked 30 fps.
Digital Foundry hasn't tested the PS4 version in this, I assume, early area of the game.
We don't know yet if the PS4 never drops below 30 either in this same scenario or that XB1 drops below 30 when they enter more action heavy areas.
Nope. To stay 30 fps steady it needs to be a lot above to 30fps from what I know, not just above. I have the little suspect xone version it stays a lot below to 30 fps compared the ps4 if CD chosen to stay unlocked just there. If ps4 it's not eh. I don't see any other reason.
WordsintheWater
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If the PS4 version was uncapped, then it might very well run above 30 FPS a good amount of times and bring the average up, but if it's running a capped 30 FPS then it can't surpass that number and therefore have a lower average FPS. I may be thinking of this completely wrong though.
That doesn't make any sense as no drops below 30 fps were spotted on the XB1 version (at least in the tested segment)
Huh? How so? You just have to care about the game not getting below 30fps.
neogaffer1
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Since it's averaging slightly less than 30, the only explanation is that there are times where it is running less than 30.
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Bad explanation on my part. I tried to explain it as you have a list of measured framerates where each framerate is measured over a certain amount of time, and then the different framerates added up and divided by the total amount of framerates, but then I realized that the way it was probably done was probably just by taking the total amount of frames and dividing by the number of seconds, total. Both go to the same answer, but the former tells how performance really changes over time (as framerate is measured at different times, saved, and then the measurement starts completely anew) while the other just gives overall performance.
...I think I'm still explaining this badly. If I still sound stupid let me know and I'll think of a good way to explain what I'm thinking.
Funny.
Locked fps it could go below more frequently. It's not that impossible.
Youve got it right if it is indeed capped. Blim said the ps4 is running in the mid 29s. He didnt give all the numbers, but if it is hitting the 29.97 frequently then theres obviously a good chance it would test even higher uncapped.
I could wrong but you need to have an average between 40-50 fps unlocked, to have sticky 30 fps locked, if not a little more.
nelsonroyale
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I doubt it doesn't drop below 30 fps when the going gets tough.
Journey
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DF did say what they had noticed so far, it's not like they examined all aspects of the game, and you wouldn't expect them to when what's being analysed is the patch and the question whether it's worth updating.
That being said, what is this thread about again? I couldn've sworn it wasn't about the dynamic resolution, I'll have to read the title again...
Dredd97
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It can but by their report in the segment they played it didn't.
Yea I'm well aware of that, we'll just have to wait and see how the XB1 fares when "the going gets tough".
WordsintheWater
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It probably does even in the scene Blim tested, but because it runs at an unlocked framerate it has a higher average than the PS4 version if the PS4 version is indeed capped, which by Blim's analysis seems like that might be the case.
Ok so explain why developers chose the way unlocked, if it's more steady at 30 fps locked. Ubisoft used the same 'trick' in AC on ps360. I highly doubt on xone runs better if it's the only version unlocked, of course.
Why would you? Locked doesn't mean the game is rendering anything on average but means that even in the worst cases the engine manages to stay slightly above 30fps.
I'm wondering if frame pacing is why I find 30fps unplayable and choppy on PC but not on consoles. Sounds like sometjing I'll have to look into.
Lol at the dynamic resolution. That was clearly just used for marketing then, it doesn't sound very dnamic.
I'm curious to see how the PS4 version stacks up. Im hearing its better from some sources and runs worse from others.
Sounds like either way this game could use another patch, at least to fix the cutscene performance.
Lol at the dynamic resolution. That was clearly just used for marketing then, it doesn't sound very dnamic.
I'm curious to see how the PS4 version stacks up. Im hearing its better from some sources and runs worse from others.
Sounds like either way this game could use another patch, at least to fix the cutscene performance.
I have no idea what happened, you don't get any benefits with unlocked 30, can you explain to me why they would do such a thing? what are you suggesting basically?
Without the patch:
With the patch:
ok... it´s a joke
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ProfessorMoran
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When you're capped at 30, the only way you would be at 29.55 is if your drops are very minor and infrequent, since you don't have any unlocked rate to balance the drops, compared to when you have unlocked frame rate where your high rates balance out the ugly drops.
Uh? I really doubt.
This uncapped vysnc is a bit confusing. If it's vysnc'd then shouldn't it be running at 30 fps?
Just I said, locked could go below 30 fps more often. Just I suspect.
No, it doesn't. Some of you guys have no idea what you're talking about. XD
Doubt what? I mean it's ok to doubt something but what exactly and why? And based on what?
nelsonroyale
Member
bingo.
You said locked it never goes below 30 fps... O wait you mean really locked? Not exist game locked on console. Maybe GTA V on ps4. Ok I should use the term capped maybe?
neogaffer1
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Ah, see I was thinking that if it ran at 30 fps 90% of the time, the only way for it to be less than 30 fps if it had semi-major drops. Like, if for 9 seconds it was running at a solid 30 fps, the only way to average 29.55 would be if it dropped to 25.5 for the last second, which would be pretty major.
Then enlight us.
Ok perhaps to make it more clear: you lock the game because you don't want to have a fluctuating framerate. But it also fluctuates if it goes to 25 from 30 but not that much in comparison to go from, say,40 to 25. But you still want the game locked (or capped) at 30 because the engine fluctuates a lot so it's better to have a stable framerate. And of course there are games with a capped and/or locked framerate
What? no! locked don't mean it can go below 30 more often, unlocked can inflate FPS average by running the game above 30 sometimes, but it doesn't mean that if you will lock it the FPS will drop more frequently below 30, it will go below 30 just as much as it did when it was unlocked.
neogaffer1
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There are several games that run at a locked 60 fps on consoles--specifically indie games. IIRC, Destiny also runs at a locked 30 fps on PS4 and XB1 (?).
Forza at 60. Driveclub at 30. Horizon 2 at 30...
Let's break it down.
Not true. What is the average of 10, 9, 9, 8 and 8? 44/5 = 8.8 average. Are 50% of the samples greater than the average? Yes. Are 50% of the samples lower than the average? No.
What you are looking for is median. The median of 10, 9, 9, 8, 8 is 9. 50% of the samples are greater than or equal to the median. 50% of the samples are less than or equal to the median.
Wrong. Well, I mean, it's possible that the PS4 version does go under 30 fps more than the XBox One version. But that's not something you can infer from the average framerates.
Cthulhu_Steev
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CDPR sound like a bunch of corn artists.
WordsintheWater
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This is what I've been trying to say, thanks for putting it in a neat package haha
DarkJedi24
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Should call it dynamic 900p instead of dynamic 1080p.
Your pun just took me on a whirlwind tour of incorrect assumptions and typos. Bravo.
The Inventor
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Dynamic res or not, that's the last thing I care about right now.
I think I'm going to try without the patch at first, the idea of choppy cutscenes is bothering me a little.
I think I'm going to try without the patch at first, the idea of choppy cutscenes is bothering me a little.
Well, I don't think this is the last patch we will see on consoles for this game.
feint_ruled
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Think it through. It would be possible to make a game that ran at 30-35fps, right? So how could you not cap or lock that at 30? Why would you need to have a game that ran 45fps to get a stable 30?
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