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Either this is 100% fake or it is in fact a leak of an unfinished product/prototype.

Thing is, I highly doubt this would be the controller for the Console.

IF real; this, I think, would be the Handheld device. With it AND the console combined it will allow for Wii U backwards compatibility, maybe optional Wii U type functionality for new titles and probably not much more than that.

 

[Sakujou]

The GamePad was never really super heavily supported with unique features, and drove up the cost of the Wii U substantially.

I can't for the life of me think Nintendo would replicate that mistake again

thatis plain wrong. the wii u gamepad had the same functions as the touchscreen of the nintendo ds including gyro, a camera, rumble and nfc. the sad fact that all devs are lazy bums+false journalism made the wii u a complete failure,sadly.
the initial idea(have a look at nintendoland) looked promising.

 

[Nanashrew]

The sharp free form displays will likely be used in their handhelds too. Sharp is Nintendo's go to for displays. So I doubt it will drive up the cost.

 

[Bashtee]

Touch buttons. Fuck. Off.

My first time on NeoGAF where people actually hope that a "potential leak" is fake. E3 can't come soon enough.

the sad fact that all devs are lazy bums+false journalism made the wii u a complete failure,sadly.
the initial idea(have a look at nintendoland) looked promising.

Please tell me you are not serious.

 

[Yukinari]

In a perfect world we would have the option to use a Gamecube Controller, Pro Controller or Wiimote+Nunchuck to control our games.

We really dont need another gimmick controller that probably wont get much use.

 

[Already Torn]

thatis plain wrong. the wii u gamepad had the same functions as the touchscreen of the nintendo ds including gyro, a camera, rumble and nfc. the sad fact that all devs are lazy bums+false journalism made the wii u a complete failure,sadly.
the initial idea(have a look at nintendoland) looked promising.

Making it work like the 3DS screen doesn't work well though. That's the worst thing about Kirby and the Rainbow curse.

 

[Griss]

Someone has probably already made this point, but if this is fake as it most likely is, then this is a great fake leak for Nintendo.

Why? Because it sets the bar really low. With the Wii U the speculation and hype from 'leaks' was insane (no really, it was properly insane in the WUSTs), and the Wii U underdelivered in a major way. This time around, if the controller is anything better than, well... this, then people are going to be relieved and happy.

A bad fake leak for Nintendo would be something like 'Twice the power of a PS4 at $250 dollars with FFXV at launch!' You'd inevitably have people believing it and getting excited, only for the inevitable let down.

Please, more underwhelming leaks. Puts us all in the right frame of mind for the ultimate reveal.

 

[Victor Omega]

Let's not forget the "free form" technology (which this is) does exist and it's coming from Sharp who are good friends with Nintendo.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/7/7511317/sharp-free-form-display-nintendo-ces-2015

 

[spazchicken]

Yeah, ok, we'll agree to disagree.

Sony got it right in 1997:

Sega got it right in 1996:

Nintendo got it wrong in 1996:

Microsoft reconfirms Sega got it right in 2001:

Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sega got it right in 2001:

Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sony got it right in 2006:

And Nintendo reconfirmed once again that Sega got it right in 2011:

You can't disagree with facts sir and the facts are that nobody has copied the N64's placement of the analogue stick in the middle of the controller or it's third grip, since it's introduction in 1996, not even Nintendo themselves. It was the first and last of it's kind for good reason; it was a bad, over engineered design.

 

[SalvaPot]

How expensive are free-form displays, anyway? Certainly seems cheaper than the gamepad, cost-wise, but I honestly don't know so I'll like to be educated about them.

If the Handheld NX still has two screens (As it should, I can't go back to 1 screen), and said games are going to be compatible with Console NX, having a second screen on the controller makes sense, and if free-form displays are more practical they can get the job done.

Sony got it right in 1997:



Sega got it right in 1996:



Nintendo got it wrong in 1996:



Microsoft reconfirms Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sony got it right in 2006:



And Nintendo reconfirmed once again that Sega got it right in 2011:



You can't disagree with facts sir and the facts are that nobody has copied the N64's placement of the analogue stick in the middle of the controller or it's third grip, since it's introduction in 1996, not even Nintendo themselves. It was the first and last of it's kind for good reason; it was a bad, over engineered design.

Wasn't the analogue stick created by Nintendo? Sure, the placement is "wrong", but they did it first.

 

[Schnozberry]

This cant be real, right ?
They wouldnt make something as bad as this controller ?

It's not credible at all. It looks like someone 3D printed an approximation of Nintendo's drawings from their free form display patent and used photoshop to make it into a crude prototype. It wasn't even a design patent for a controller. It was a possibility of what the use of this particular patent could look like if it were turned into a retail product. It was never real beyond the scope of getting the patent approved.

Even if you were to somehow get past all of that in your mind, you'd still have to believe that one of the few development studios entrusted with an NX would expose themselves to all kinds of financial and legal risk to leak a controller prototype on reddit for no reason other than spectacle.

 

[dmr87]

I'm going to bed, I expect receipts when I come back.

 

[HeroInGreen]

I still don't get how can anyone find that design... useful? comfortable? appealing? Seriously, I can't see anything positive there, but that's just me.

 

[DXB-KNIGHT]

Hmm the patent has grips while I don't see the grips in the picture.

 

[HotHamBoy]

Looked fake immediately. Not even decent photoshop. People so hungry!

 

[ReyVGM]

B is always at the bottom of the diamond for Ninty

Yeah, but in the leak it seems it only has A & B.

 

[Sakujou]

How expensive are free-form displays, anyway? Certainly seems cheaper than the gamepad, cost-wise, but I honestly don't know so I'll like to be educated about them.

If the Handheld NX still has two screens (As it should, I can't go back to 1 screen), and said games are going to be compatible with Console NX, having a second screen on the controller makes sense, and if free-form displays are more practical they can get the job done.



Wasn't the analogue stick created by Nintendo? Sure, the placement is "wrong", but they did it first.

fucking this. nintendo invented the analogue stick used in a 3d environment and not just only as a small joystick only used for flightsims.
playstation was shipped until 2000 alternatively with an analogue controller or 2 normal controllers. and most psx-games had additional features, except ape escape there was not controller fully taking advantage of the analogue sticks.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Sony got it right in 1997:



Sega got it right in 1996:



Nintendo got it wrong in 1996:



Microsoft reconfirms Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sony got it right in 2006:



And Nintendo reconfirmed once again that Sega got it right in 2011:



You can't disagree with facts sir and the facts are that nobody has copied the N64's placement of the analogue stick in the middle of the controller or it's third grip, since it's introduction in 1996, not even Nintendo themselves. It was the first and last of it's kind for good reason; it was a bad, over engineered design.

You must never played a N64.. there are methods to holding the controller. The analog is either on the left or right. It is never in the middle. Its like the first and only controller other than the Wii Remote to offer multiple ways to hold it depending on what game you playing. Most games had it on the left.

 

[James Scott]

Sony got it right in 1997:



Sega got it right in 1996:



Nintendo got it wrong in 1996:



Microsoft reconfirms Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sony got it right in 2006:



And Nintendo reconfirmed once again that Sega got it right in 2011:



You can't disagree with facts sir and the facts are that nobody has copied the N64's placement of the analogue stick in the middle of the controller or it's third grip, since it's introduction in 1996, not even Nintendo themselves. It was the first and last of it's kind for good reason; it was a bad, over engineered design.

Nintendo was the first to introduce the analog stick in that way. Let's not forget that the PlayStation controller is basically a SNES controller (it literally was one at one point)and they're all using the D-pad and analog sticks introduced by Nintendo. Shoulder buttons and analog triggers as well.
Motion controls and touch functionality were adopted by MS and Sony.
Let's not downplay Nintendo's achievements here

 

[Nessus]

I'll be very surprised if this ends up being real. It seems more like someone 3D printed a mockup based on the patent filing.

I can't remember any of Nintendo's stuff ever looking like the rough sketches in their patent filings.

They also tend to make sure their patents don't become public before something is officially announced.

*shrug*

 

[spazchicken]

Wasn't the analogue stick created by Nintendo? Sure, the placement is "wrong", but they did it first.

No the analogue stick was not created by Nintendo.

 

[ReyVGM]

You must never played a N64.. there are methods to holding the controller. The analog is either on the left or right. It is never in the middle. Its like the first and only controller other than the Wii Remote to offer multiple ways to hold it depending on what game you playing. Most games had it on the left.

He must have been one of those people that grabbed the controller on the left side and tried to reach the analog stick in the middle.

I'm not going to deny that the controller might have caused confusion the first time you held it if you weren't following the news, but once you hold the controller correctly, it's extremely comfortable and that Z trigger placement was one of the most naturaly feeling buttons ever placed.

 

[zewone]

I really hope it's real and that it's a handheld.

 

[J@hranimo]

Probably a prototype.

Nothing more or nothing less.

 

[Sakujou]

No the analogue stick was not created by Nintendo.

before nintendo it was called joystick and it was phallus-shaped.
you were holding one joystick in both hands or it was sticked to the table.

 

[Bl@de]

Lol. Looks terrible. Uncomfortable and ugly.

 

[Nanashrew]

Analog stick wasn't created by Nintendo but they were the only ones thinking in 3D. The rest adopted joysticks only after Nintendo with Mario 64. Everyone else was using D-pads and fixed cameras.

 

[Zetta]

A par of me tells me this is fake but this is nintendo so I wouldn't put it past them. Fake or not I always love to see these thread lol. We have threads with real/confirmed news not going as long as this lol.

 

[ReyVGM]

I really hope it's real and that it's a handheld.

Real and spectacular.

 

[Drilbit777]

Looks extremely fake and I doubt Nintendo would actually use this for their console.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

The sharp free form displays will likely be used in their handhelds too. Sharp is Nintendo's go to for displays. So I doubt it will drive up the cost.

Sharp could even be eating some of the costs to make the tech mainstream.

 

[ReyVGM]

The sad thing about this 'leak' is that once they reveal the real controller and enough years pass, there will be people saying how the NX controller once looked all horrible like Stewie's head.

This is definitely fake because Nintendo wouldn't use the same design they used for the patent floating around in this thread. Not to mention that design is not ergonomic, and Nintendo doesn't joke around with that.

 

[kirby_fox]

That sounds pretty expensive for a controller...

I have no idea how the tech works and if it's actually expensive or not. This tech started to gain some relevance 2 years ago it looks, with plans to make it to market in FY2015.

Article on different kinds.

It's actually right up Nintendo's alley, as some of the tech looks like it has been around for years just not widely used. That could mean that price has finally come down to a certain point where implementing it is possible, and it'd create a pretty unique controller that looks futuristic and new (like the Wii remote or DS touch screen) but is using old tech still.

 

[spazchicken]

You must never played a N64.. there are methods to holding the controller. The analog is either on the left or right. It is never in the middle. Its like the first and only controller other than the Wii Remote to offer multiple ways to hold it depending on what game you playing. Most games had it on the left.

Nintendo was the first to introduce the analog stick in that way. Let's not forget that the PlayStation controller is basically a SNES controller (it literally was one at one point)and they're all using the D-pad and analog sticks introduced by Nintendo. Shoulder buttons and analog triggers as well.
Motion controls and touch functionality were adopted by MS and Sony.
Let's not downplay Nintendo's achievements here

My whole point was that there was a simpler and more obvious way to place the stick and design the controller, that's it. As time has proven, everyone else got it but them. My argument isn't about anything but that. I agree, Nintendo is the godfather of the modern controller but that doesn't mean that every controller they have made has been great.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

No the analogue stick was not created by Nintendo.

Who made it atari? lol

My whole point was that there was a simpler and more obvious way to place the stick and design the controller, that's it. As time has proven, everyone else got it but them. My argument isn't about anything but that. I agree, Nintendo is the godfather of the modern controller but that doesn't mean that every controller they have made has been great.

There is a process called refinement son. Nintendo got it right the first time. As time progress there will be more refinement. You have to be crazy if you think the analog stick as it is today will be like that forever.

 

[Squire]

Sony got it right in 1997:



Sega got it right in 1996:



Nintendo got it wrong in 1996:



Microsoft reconfirms Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sega got it right in 2001:



Then Nintendo reconfirmed that Sony got it right in 2006:



And Nintendo reconfirmed once again that Sega got it right in 2011:



You can't disagree with facts sir and the facts are that nobody has copied the N64's placement of the analogue stick in the middle of the controller or it's third grip, since it's introduction in 1996, not even Nintendo themselves. It was the first and last of it's kind for good reason; it was a bad, over engineered design.

Skipping over the 360 pad specifically is weird. That's arguably MS perfecting what Nintendo started.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Nintendo's had a horrible past few months on Metacritic. Some of their most consistently bad games in years. Hopefully it's because they're putting all the top men into working on this... controller.

Top...

...Men.

 

[Some Nobody]

And man, that design is totally fake. Or if its not, it's a prototype that they probably discarded a while back. (Please let that be the case.)

This thread made me dig an old mock up image of what people thought the N64 controller was going to look like:

This came out of GameFan Magazine from early 1995 when nobody knew what the console or controller was going to look like. They were pretty close.

Close? That's basically the exact design visually, right down to the illogical third stick in the middle and the overall button layout. It's so close I have to wonder if someone didn't show it to them beforehand, lol.

 

[Raziel]

He must have been one of those people that grabbed the controller on the left side and tried to reach the analog stick in the middle.

I'm not going to deny that the controller might have caused confusion the first time you held it if you weren't following the news, but once you hold the controller correctly, it's extremely comfortable and that Z trigger placement was one of the most naturaly feeling buttons ever placed.

You guys are completely overlooking that it lacks the necessary second analog stick and instead offers 4 face buttons for camera controls. No.

 

[Jetman]

Honestly, saw that first picture and laughed hard, especially at everyone's reactions. But the more I think about it, if it's a haptic control scheme it could work.
We're potentially just seeing one devs' game/demo represented on the front of that thing (which for some reason is a damn canyon or something). But, Imagine a controller that visually changes to represent the type of game your playing - a Metroid game that makes it dark and has buttons/read outs that look like the inside of a Varia suit or a Zelda game where the controller glows gold like the Tri-Force, with maybe a compass readout on the front that starts spinning and going nuts if you're next to a secret or bombable wall or something.

Try not to overreact, Gaf. (Even though I do like seeing ya'll do just that)

 

[krang]

Oh Nintendo...

Nobody can say you don't try really hard, at least.

 

[Movalpolos]

Rumours and lies can create wars. If things get out of hand, there will be ramifications. People don't know how to behave. They are destined to destroy themselves. Comments are a powerful thing. Why do you think race wars and feminism exist? Video Games are a new culture thats only be around for 30 or so years. We don't need it to be crusified like what has been done to movies, lit, and music. Its bad enough we get bans and censorship in our games and polititions trying to bring down the industry. Why not hold judgement until the thing comes out? What is this, the VGAs all over again, nominating games that have a month or two to come out?

What the shit?

 

[Cranster]

It looks terrible, this can't possibly be real otherwise they lost their minds.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

You guys are completely overlooking that it lacks the necessary second analog stick and instead offers 4 face buttons for camera controls. No.

Right. We are also overlooking the fact that nes lacked shoulder buttons.

 

[spazchicken]

Who made it atari? lol


There is a process called refinement son. Nintendo got it right the first time. As time progress there will be more refinement. You have to be crazy if you think the analog stick as it is today will be like that forever.

Why not, Sony's is as it was from the very beginning. So is Sega's original configuration still being used today.

And to answer your question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_stick

The first consumer games console which had analog joysticks was the Prinztronic/Acetronic/Interton series, launched in 1976. This system was widely cloned throughout Europe and available under several brand names. The 2 sticks each used a pair of potentiometers, but were not self-centering.[4]

In 1982, Atari released a controller with a potentiometer-based analog joystick for their Atari 5200 home console. However, its non-centering joystick design proved to be ungainly and unreliable,[5] alienating many consumers at the time. During that same year, General Consumer Electronics introduced the Vectrex, a vector graphics based system which used a self-centering analog stick, a precursor to the modern design.[6]

Skipping over the 360 pad specifically is weird. That's arguably MS perfecting what Nintendo started.

I never excluded the 360 controller. It's in there.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

what am i even looking at yo

 

[The Lone Courier]

So its a weird gameboy.

 

[wenis]

Is this a lucid dream? Am I dreaming within a dream? Why does Nintendo envision it's player base controlling it's games with an angled slice of a baguette?

 

[James Scott]

Why not, Sony's is as it was from the very beginning. So is Sega's original configuration still being used today.

And to answer your question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_stick




I never excluded the 360 controller. It's in there.

Sony released a 2D controller for a 3D system only fixing it later adding two sticks after noticing the short comings from the first to use analog sticks properly

 

[Movalpolos]

the sad fact that all devs are lazy bums+false journalism made the wii u a complete failure,sadly.
the initial idea(have a look at nintendoland) looked promising.

Wow. You truly believe this?
Does anyone else also feel this way?