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This is no way a real thing. the shape of the screen is not even possible. both sides of the screen after the analog sticks are useless, since they will be covered with the gamer hands.

its not even comfortable to look at. let alone hold it.

Imma call this fake and pray to god it's. because this is the worst shape controller I have ever seen on my life.

 

[Galava]

IF this is no fake, this will be the 3DS successor. Such a controller for the console would make no sense imho.

Yeah, people are confusing this "thing" with the controller, when it'd actually be the portable console.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Hope it´s fake.

Usually patent applications use made up, different shapes to avoid giving away the final product.

It´s fake.

Spoiler

I hope.

I wish this hope won't die.

 

[kraspkibble]

if that's real then no way i'm buying it. i wish nintendo would stop these ridiculous controllers. wii remote and gamepad is just horrible. give me a normal controller for goodness sake.

 

[BahamutPT]

Look at it this way: how many people have said: I don't play mobile games because it doesn't have proper sticks and touch-screen-emulated sticks suck.

This might be a way to overcome that. Button presses on touch screens are fine and precise (how would you type all those mobile emails/sms messages/neogaf posts every day) - but virtual sticks outright suck and are inprecise.
This might be a solution for that.

I'm not against having the buttons on-screen, fwiw. I just don't think this implementation is especially good.

Context sensitive button displays, peripheral effects, HUD not covering main screen. That's a few off the top of my head.

That's the added value,coupled with the "wow" factor.

I don't think this particular image us real, but I do think we'll end up with a similar (albeit more practical) design.

If your hands are covering the edges of the screen (try holding a smartphone, including simulating fingers on triggers) most of that added value from the screen surrounding the buttons is lost.
Context buttons are a positive, yes, but I think they could be rendered similar to the 2DS which has a single panel with different "screens".

Of course I'm having just a theoretical discussion and I'd need to try it myself, but I don't think this would be a suitable application for free-form displays.

Edit: I guess I'm trying to say something similar to this would be a more suitable device screen. Imagine the buttons (analogs) are located on those big "holes" instead of the middle.

 

[deleted]

That has to be one of the worst mock ups I have seen to date. In concept that is.

We are talking about Nintendo here. Even if they are going with this kind of controller and display (most likely they will at least have physical buttons) the form factor gives it away as a 100% fake.

Be it the N64, the GCN, the Wii or the Wii U. All of their controller have a good to great usability. This thing looks unusable. The placements of the analog sticks is in the worst position for that kind of controller. How would you even hold it?

 

[Neff]

That simply doesn't look like Nintendo made it.

The only way I'd buy this being real is if it were a rough prototype and the patent sketches were taken from that prototype, which would be crazy.

If it's a fake, it's a good one, but I'm not convinced.

We are talking about Nintendo here. Even if they are going with this kind of controller and display (most likely they will at least have physical buttons) the form factor gives it away as a 100% fake.

Be it the N64, the GCN, the Wii or the Wii U. All of their controller have a good to great usability. This thing looks unusable.

Pretty much this.

 

[Kyonashi]

I agree that it seems far too on the nose to the patent to be real, and the lack of physical buttons AT ALL seems weird, unless they went for four triggers I guess?

Idk, love the idea of the entire pad being a screen but the this seems like such a rough draft of the concept.

 

[Harlequin]

Look at the positioning of the B button on the right. It looks incredibly awkward to reach. There's no way Nintendo would make such a fundamental error. It'd be one thing if it were a "Home/Select/etc" button, but a B button?

It's obviously a virtual touch button so chances are (if this really is real) that the developer chose to place it there, not Nintendo.

Finally, it just looks fucking ridiculous, and there's no way the entirety of Nintendo's dev team would think it would appeal to a large audience.

Right... because they were so good at figuring out what would appeal to a large audience the last time they designed a console . That being said, I'm not necessarily saying that it's real. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't (if it is, it'll most certainly be an early prototype, though).

 

[N.Grim]

I would argue that it's the biggest flaw of the Wii U, that's why I never bought one. Of course they dropped the ball in other areas as well, but they are not nearly as annoying compared to that giant game pad.

Many people hate the Wiimote, this didn't stop the Wii to sell 100 million units

 

[LeleSocho]

I hope it's real only to see the backfire, thing is unwatchable.

 

[Candescence]

This is no way a real thing. the shape of the screen is not even possible. both sides of the screen after the analog sticks are useless, since they will be covered with the gamer hands.

its not even comfortable to look at. let alone hold it.

Imma call this fake and pray to god it's. because this is the worst shape controller I have ever seen on my life.

Well, I imagine the final shape of the portable NX would probably be closer to a Vita. Less odd and provides ample room for the 16:9 area in the middle while also giving a bit more room for the outer screen area.

 

[Bigmac1910]

This is actually an area where virtual buttons could actually have an advantage. Buttons with relevant, intuitive symbols or labels would be far more understandable than buttons with arbitrary letters and numbers that don't mean anything. Hell, the screen could even be useful for labelling physical buttons and the sticks, like in mockups from previous threads. You wouldn't even need tutorials, you could just put a label under a button, such as 'Jump' under the A button, and even non-gamers will get it instantly.



My Steam Controller would like to have a word with you on that. The right touchpad being vastly superior to a right stick, the grip buttons, the inclusion of gyro and the incredible customization elevate the controller above and beyond the Dualshock 4 and Xbone controller for me for most games.

I wouldn't know anything about that as I have not tried the steam controller myself, I've just read in forums that it's ok, but not great.(seems to be very game dependent) So if you like it, more power to you, hopefully one of these days I will be able to try one.

 

[Rabid Dwarf 76]

If I want power and graphics I have my PC. I only expect from Nintendo a nice, unique, and fun console. I don't care about "max-graphics" on a Nintendo device...

I have to agree. I buy Nintendo hardware because of the unique experiences, not graphics. I hated the Wii U when it was revealed but I love it now. If this is real I hope it will be put to good use.

 

[Graphics Horse]

IF this is no fake, this will be the 3DS successor. Such a controller for the console would make no sense imho.

The 'leaker' never called it a controller.

 

[Sadist]

Pics are still up? Yeah this is fake.

I remember when a Travelers Tales employee "leaked" the updated Wii U gamepad design and the guy was ninja'd and even fired the next day. If this was real Nintendo would have already called for action.

 

[beril]

it's probably almost certainly fake given it's extreme likeness to the patent image but I wouldn't mind something like this for a handheld. (The reddit page doesn't say controller so I'm not sure why people are assuming that)

It looks comfortable enough. Yes, touch screen buttons suck, but with two analogs and 2 (or 4?) shoulder buttons you can get most of your inputs physical and just use the screen for secondary stuff. I'd miss a d-pad and face buttons but I'd live. And presented right it would certainly be a unique looking device.

If it is indeed a console controller, it'd be too much a rehash of the WiiU. If the main feature is a screen controller, it's not really something new and too much of the manufacturing cost would again be eaten up by the controller and require too much rendering power to do something interesting with.

 

[Gormless Noodle]

It would be hilarious if this is it. Nipple controllers for EVERYONE!

 

[Darkstorne]

Many people hate the Wiimote, this didn't stop the Wii to sell 100 million units

I also hate the form factor of pretty much ALL of their handhelds. Rectangular blocks (or square blocks for GBA SP) that feel far too small even for my tiny hands and give me cramp after 20 minutes of holding the damn things.

I'm also not convinced this is real, but right now I'm far more concerned about why people think creating an uncomfortable controller is beyond Nintendo. It's what they excel at doing.

 

[Bigmac1910]

Many people hate the Wiimote, this didn't stop the Wii to sell 100 million units

I actually loved the Wii Remote until I realized that no matter what I did, even the motion plus controllers only worked 80% of the time. The rest of the time it was re-sync after re-sync or it just flat out refused to work. I was actually disappointed that Nintendo didn't refine it even further for the Wii U, if it would have worked 100% of the time, I don't think people would hate it. I only hate it nowadays because it didn't work properly, if it would, I would still play with it to this very day.(Not all kinds of games though)

 

[Always-honest]

if that's real then no way i'm buying it. i wish nintendo would stop these ridiculous controllers. wii remote and gamepad is just horrible. give me a normal controller for goodness sake.

IF it's real, why not wait and see what it does? Djezus.. bunch of xenophobes.

 

[xsapeguy2014]

Really cant wait for the NX !

Leaks I think will start coming thick and fast now.

GDC was the time that Nintendo was going to be in first real talks with 3rd party devs and I think probably select journalists.

Makes me think that maybe there is now an embargo on , but people will know stuff now, come April we will know quite a lot but I think the select people have been told to keep quiet till then.

However I think leaks coming soon now.

You know journalists and 3rd party can't keep quiet lol

 

[KojiKnight]

It kind of reminds me of some original DS mockups where people thought Nintendo were going to use the touch screen to simulate buttons and not actually have physical ones.

That said even after the final reveal there was a LOT of hatred for the original DS... and then it turned out to be one of the best (and best selling) systems of all time. I think I can give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt one more time.

GDC was the time that Nintendo was going to be in first real talks with 3rd party devs and I think probably select journalists.

No it's not... how long do you think it takes to make video games?

 

[Candescence]

I actually loved the Wii Remote until I realized that no matter what I did, even the motion plus controllers only worked 80% of the time. The rest of the time it was re-sync after re-sync or it just flat out refused to work. I was actually disappointed that Nintendo didn't refine it even further for the Wii U, if it would have worked 100% of the time, I don't think people would hate it. I only hate it nowadays because it didn't work properly, if it would, I would still play with it to this very day.(Not all kinds of games though)

Yeah, this is actually something I'd agree with you on, though I did find Motion+ fairly reliable, it was a blast to use in Skyward Sword. I think Nintendo could easily go a long way with a Motion++ using the Vive's lighthouse solution.

 

[Graphics Horse]

It would be hilarious if this is it. Nipple controllers for EVERYONE!

The sticks being a low profile design is definitely the kind of thing I expect, you want the sticks to get in the way of screen input as little as possible.

 

[Hermii]

IF this is no fake, this will be the 3DS successor. Such a controller for the console would make no sense imho.

Also I believe the patent explicitly stated it was for a handheld.

 

[Azure Phoenix]

Taking away all doubt and assuming this is real for a moment, I can't honestly think of a single thing this controller would offer or improve upon compared to technology we already have. It doesn't seem ergonomic, touch buttons will never be as accurate as physical buttons and there is no point having the screen continue past the analog sticks when your hands will be covering it 99% of the time. If (and it's a big if) this is the controller, Nintendo have learnt nothing from the Wii U's failure, another non-standard controller that costs a fortune to manufacture which third parties will ignore.

 

[xsapeguy2014]

your correct about TT employee but he was only part time games tester. If this is actual 3rd party or journalist then it will be harder , plus you watch the cease or decease come out today!

 

[2+2=5]

I really don't like the lack of buttons, what i fear the most though is that leakers confused the gamepad for a handheld and in reality there's no NX handheld, i want a standalone handheld, on the other hand if this is the handheld... again i really don't like the lack of buttons.

 

[KojiKnight]

Yeah, this is actually something I'd agree with you on, though I did find Motion+ fairly reliable, it was a blast to use in Skyward Sword. I think Nintendo could easily go a long way with a Motion++ using the Vive's lighthouse solution.

Actually, it wasn't really the motion+ that seemed to be the problem, but rather the Wii. Using the motion+ controller on the Zelda game in Nintendo Land is a TON more accurate than it is on Skyward Sword.

 

[giancarlo123x]

I must still be sleeping, the hell am I looking at?

 

[xsapeguy2014]

Wrong!

You have not even touched or played on this IF real yet!

Makes me laugh so much how people think they are experts in something that maybe so responsive its amazing!

Also think about if it was not for Nintendo making analogue controls for the N64 in the first place we would be on the Atari joystick still lol

Nintendo know their stuff have faith!

 

[thenexus6]

44 pages for this p.o.s ..

 

[Fantastapotamus]

IF this is real, I don't understand Nintendos insistence of putting a screen on the controller. It wasn't that great when the WiiU did it but at least that was a proper screen. This however looks completely useless.
I hope this is a fake.
Just make a normal controller Nintendo. Only like 10% of your games actually profited from the new ones you threw up.

 

[Raist]

I think the main issue with the sticks is that they seem to be one solid piece. I don't see how these things can actually move. Which is why I suspect it's really just a fake mockup.

 

[magnetic]

I must still be sleeping, the hell am I looking at?

You're looking at shit that isn't worth talking about for 44 pages.

I made my popcorn for nothing.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I really don't like the lack of buttons, what i fear the most though is that leakers confused the gamepad for a handheld and in reality there's no NX handheld, i want a standalone handheld, on the other hand if this is the handheld... again i really don't like the lack of buttons.

Nintendo definitely need a new handheld some point soon.

 

[Neoxon]

I really don't like the lack of buttons, what i fear the most though is that leakers confused the gamepad for a handheld and in reality there's no NX handheld, i want a standalone handheld, on the other hand if this is the handheld... again i really don't like the lack of buttons.

The reality of the matter is that Nintendo can't support two separate platforms, anymore (especially with mobile thrown into the mix).

 

[Zakard]

What is this? While holding it, my fat thumbs would block my view of the screen...please be fake...

 

[Comandr]

Adding too this, there are cuts and weird fades all over the top screen.

Cuts and fades? No no. What you're seeing is the underside of a platform. It appears to be a bridge made of cut stone.

Spoiler

It's totally death mountain.

 

[KingSnake]

I keep coming back and look at that image and if this is a fake it's a damn well done one. A premium fake.

One shouldn't seek to reinvent the wheel. The "wheel" is perfect as "the wheel."

This sophism is about to be retired:

http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2016/03/09/goodyear-eagle-360-spherical-tire.cnnmoney/

Time to learn new cliches.

 

[Neoxon]

At this point, the fact that this is still up has me thinking that this is fake.

 

[Marvel]

Anyone said "Wow" yet?

 

[Taker666]

To me, the shape only works ergonomically, if it slots into a base/ has the prongs from the original patent-

That would ensure it's just like a normal controller to hold and only your thumbs would obscure the screen.

Having said that, I really don't want the cost of the console bumped by $100 again thanks to another costly screen/streaming design....and while having virtual buttons on a handheld would be fine due to always being in your line of sight...virtual buttons on a console controller would be way harder to deal with as you'd feel the need to look down far more than you ever did with the Wii U gamepad.

As a handheld I don't see why they would go with this shape...as something with a similar curve to the SNES controller or the PSP/Vita would make far more sense.

 

[KojiKnight]

Taking away all doubt and assuming this is real for a moment, I can't honestly think of a single thing this controller would offer or improve upon compared to technology we already have. It doesn't seem ergonomic, touch buttons will never be as accurate as physical buttons and there is no point having the screen continue past the analog sticks when your hands will be covering it 99% of the time. If (and it's a big if) this is the controller, Nintendo have learnt nothing from the Wii U's failure, another non-standard controller that costs a fortune to manufacture which third parties will ignore.

People keep saying this... but how exactly are people holding the controller in a way that completely blocks it?

Looks to be about 30% or so of the screen. Still quite a lot, but may be that way due to limitations of technology on shaping custom screens. Or there is a Nintendo-like way to hold or play this where that bit of screen is viewable.

 

[Lucifon]

What on earth is that!

 

[Kouriozan]

I'm open-minded about things like that and I honestly don't know what to think without knowing more.

 

[Seijuro]

This looks horrible. But I won't be surprised if this is in fact the real thing and wouldn't put it past Nintendo to again release a controller without thinking about the multiplatform titles of 3rd parties.

 

[ekim]

Yeah, people are confusing this "thing" with the controller, when it'd actually be the portable console.

It's the thread title's fault. Good job OP

 

[BowieZ]

As mentioned in the patent thread, I'm sure there is a psychological benefit to the screen extending past the thumbs. It gives an illusion of ongoing boundless reality, rather than the traditional boxed-in screen existence we are used to.

The screen area acts sort of like a side-view mirror that you can just sense in your visual periphery. It has a slightly VR quality to it.

If it's cheap to manufacture, and if it's easy to build for (which is Nintendo's biggest issue IMHO) then I don't see the problem.