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[Filthy Casual]

Based EA based Dice

Dis gon b gud!

 

[Psychoward]

If racism isn't the point of the piece (which it obviously wouldn't be for BF5) I think portraying racism accurately probably does more harm than ignoring racism and being inclusive as a result. I don't really see what a blockbuster shooter has to gain by accurately including racism.

I guess so, it wouldn't be a big deal if they included other races in combat roles -just saying it can be risky doing so by misrepresenting what was really going on.

 

[More_Badass]

I never sad that it is not fresh. But this world War 1 / world War 2 setting is so fucking boring to me. I played all the MOHs, CODs, Band of brothers, and what not. I really liked bf3 with its setting in the "now" or very near future. Black ops 2 was already too futuristic for me though.

Perhaps it's not the setting that's boring but the conflicts in the games? Most just recycled the same battles and fronts

We never really got a big budget WWI game anyway

 

[maniac-kun]

Found my glasses. Definitely looks like a black man to me.

Well heres a list of participant countries of WW1:

The Entente Powers

Note: The "Entente Powers" are also known as the Allies of World War I or the Allies

Andorra (declared war on Germany but played no part in the fighting)
Armenia
Flag of Hejaz 1917.svg Arab Rebels
Belgium (Belgian colonial empire)
Brazil
Republic of China (1912–49) Republic of China
Costa Rica
Cuba
Bohemia Czechoslovak Legions
Flag of the Second Saudi State.svgEmirate of Nejd and Hasa
France France (French colonial empire)
Greece
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Italy (Italian Empire)
Japan Japan
Liberia
Montenegro
Nepal
United Kingdom France New Hebrides (British-French condominium)
Nicaragua
Panama
Portugal Portugal (Portuguese colonial empire)
Romania
Russia
Russian Empire Russian Republic
Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic Russian SFSR until Treaty of Brest-Litovsk
Serbia
San Marino
Thailand Siam (now Thailand)
United Kingdom (British Empire[1])
Canada
British Raj India (now India, Bangladesh, Burma and Pakistan)
Newfoundland
Australia
New Zealand
Flag of Malta (1923-1943).svg Malta
South Africa
Flag of BSAC edit.svg Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe and Zambia), administered by the British South Africa Company
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland British crown colonies
United States United States
Alaska Alaska
Hawaii Hawaii
Flag of the Philippines (1919-1936).svg Philippine Islands
Puerto Rico
United States Other unincorporated territories
Non Independent ethnic groups: Armenians, Assyrians, Poles, Pontic Greeks

The Central Powers

Austria-Hungary
Azerbaijan Azerbaijan Democratic Republic
Bulgaria
Banat Republic
Flag of Courland (state).svg Duchy of Courland and Semigallia (satellite state)
Dervish flag.svg Dervish State
Flag of Georgia (1918-1921).svg Democratic Republic of Georgia
Germany
Reichskolonialflagge.svg German colonial empire
Flag of the Emirate of Ha'il.svg Jabal Shammar
Flag of Lithuania.svg Kingdom of Lithuania (satellite state)
Ottoman Empire
South African Republic South African Republic
Flag of Poland.svg Kingdom of Poland (satellite state)
Flag of Darfur.svg Sultanate of Darfur
Flag of the Ukranian State.svg Ukrainian State

Neutral countries

Afghanistan Afghanistan – received a German diplomatic mission trying to convince it to act against the British in India
Principality of Albania – In political chaos since the beginning of the war, the country was occupied by both Central and Allied powers but never declared war on either side
Argentina
Bolivia
Bhutan
Chile
Colombia
Denmark
El Salvador
Ethiopia – received a German diplomatic mission trying to convince it to act against Italy, United Kingdom and France in East Africa
Liechtenstein – Had a customs and monetary union with Austria-Hungary
Luxembourg Luxembourg – Never declared war on the Central Powers despite being invaded and occupied by Germany
Bogd Khaanate of Mongolia
Mexico/ Mexico – Declined an alliance with Germany (see Zimmermann Telegram)
Monaco
Netherlands Netherlands (Dutch Empire) – An ally of the United Kingdom by treaty. Traded with both sides.
Norway – Gave naval assistance to the United Kingdom.
Paraguay
Iran – Civil dispute and Allied Campaign against Ottomans
Spain Spain (Spanish Territories in Africa)
Spitsbergen – Danish-Norwegian co-dominium
Sweden – Non-belligerent
Switzerland – Switzerland did declare a "state of siege"
Venezuela – Supplied the Allies with oil

 

[ant_]

What is the explanation that they give about why WWII started?

History is all about context and perspective. From the perspective of America, we truly entered World War 2 after the events of Pearl Harbor.
i.e. World War 2 started for the US because of Pearl Harbor.

Before this, the thing that is mostly discussed is Hitler's rise to power in post WW1 Germany

 

[LordBaztion]

please have a good campaign, in the eastern front

 

[wwm0nkey]

Seriously hoping this isn't WWI.


Or at least if it is, it has a hodge-podge of newer tech like CoD:BO did with the Cold War stuff.

It's alt history, that's exactly what they are going to do

 

[AstroNut325]

I don't get the negatively. I'm very highly intrigued by a WW1 setting.

 

[Kusagari]

What is the explanation that they give about why WWII started?

Germany was in a rough situation after WW1. Hitler rose to power and was a douche who started invading countries. Now let's talk about the Holocaust and Pearl Harbor.

 

[maniac-kun]

I wonder how much trench warfare this game will actually have. Bi-planes will be cool tho.



There a better or alternative pic? That pic makes it appear a bit more cutting edge for WW1 than actual WW1. Maybe it's that lighting.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202794531&postcount=285

 

[The Elite]

Is this a serious question? Shaved heads on a soldier are like a standard. Pretty much every war movie ever has the mandatory scene of the soldiers all sitting in a line getting their heads shaved.
And there really is no "look" of a shaved head. A shaved head is a shaved head is a shaved head.

I don't think you ever see that in a World War 1 film. I could be wrong. Also, looking at photos of soldiers in World War 1 I don't see many with shaved heads. His look doesn't seem to quite fit what a soldier would look like during WW1. Maybe that's why a lot of people are suggesting it's alternate reality.

 

[Schlorgan]

That dude looks majestic as fuck.

Freaking A

 

[D1renegade]

Im pretty sure he is a white guy.

I don't know..

He has quite the dehumanizing stare.

 

[Mad Season]

ALSO

May 6th. 1937. the hindenburg zeppline crashed as well.

Today is May 6th

 

[Scotia]

Looks great. Already more pumped for this than IW.

 

[maquiladora]

There a better or alternative pic? That pic makes it appear a bit more cutting edge for WW1 than actual WW1. Maybe it's that lighting.

Just the modern lighting effects and dramatic wind blowing the rain cape. All the gear is WWI-esque.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

I'll eat my crow now.

 

[GavinUK86]

If you wanted to be one of the cool kids yeah. You wanna be cool don't ya?

I wanna be the coolest.

 

[The Flash]

please have a good campaign

It's DICE

And this isn't a Bad Company game

 

[Dex815]

Was this really called for?

What I am trying to say is that neither in Europe is a big part of the educational system. That part of history is mostly focused in WWII, just like many other periods of history are not covered for all countries/civilizations.

The last 100 years of history are probably the most important for our society in my opinion. Not having the interest of knowing why the first WW happened is as weird as that people that have no idea why WWII happened or which countries fought in it. Maybe is just me. (I don't pretend to sound like an asshole, sorry if I sound like that).

 

[daveo42]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202794531&postcount=285

I meant of the game, not the guns he's supposedly holding. The only one that is clear as day is the Mauser.

 

[RoboPlato]

The best part of these threads are and will continue to be the "Wtf, don't you people know anything about WW1?" posts.

Little hint: Nah they probably don't. WW1 gets no respect in typical US education. It's basically "Things were messed up, trenches and gas for 4 years, BUT YO LEMME TELL YOU BOUT HITLER THOUGH."

This

Literally all the US schools go over on WWI is Archduke Franz Ferdinand, trenches, and how it lead into WWII.

 

[Rushersauce]

Weapon attachments and vehicle unlocks were not in BF2, 2142, BF2MC, BC1, or 1943.

Bf2142 had something like weapons attachments Lite.

 

[Tecnniqe]

Maan that BF2 trailer is the best

 

[Gnome Scat]

Thank God, was afraid it may be future.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I'll eat my crow now.

Sautéed, fried,grilled,Or baked chose wisely lol.

 

[Tuffty]

Interested in the game, BF3 & 4 remains some of my favourite multiplayer games but a WW1 setting seems kind of in poor taste. It wouldn't necessarily work as a FPS unless you jazz it up, but then you're glorifying one of the worst wars ever seen. Not saying you can't have games in that setting but give it the credence it deserves (Valiant Hearts does fantastically well in this regard). I only hope EA/DICE does do that rather than give it the AAA big budget guns and explosions treatment seen in past single player Battlefield campaigns.

 

[FlammableAce]

Anyone discussed the race of the fellow on the pic? Gotta be alternate timeline right? In WWI most african-american troops were put on labor battalions.

(can't find my glasses, eyesight is shit, so I'm sorry if I'm mistaken about his race)

Looks like the white dude from the teaser.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Getting a Timesplitters design feel, looks great.

 

[Endless]

Another image

 

[RowdyReverb]

Why can't it just be every war at the same time. Play as Wolverine and fight in all the wars. Make everybody happy

 

[etta]

Here is a proper capture I just did

YOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAAAAAAAAATT!>!>!>?!??!?

 

[Corto]

To anyone interested in learning about WWI Dan Carlin has a monumental series of audiobooks/podcasts about it.

Blueprint for Armageddon

http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-50-blueprint-for-armageddon-i/

Also a great book from the perspective of a German Soldier and accomplished writer Ernst Jünger

Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger

A bit laudatory and a romantic literary piece about war but it must be understood as a book of its time.

 

[Evil Beaver]

ALSO

May 6th. 1937. the hindenburg zeppline crashed as well.

Today is May 6th

If it's Alternate Timline, I want the Hindenburg to be a military weapon of mass destruction. With one of the missions being to infiltrate and destroy it.

...Operation: Hugh Manatee

Make it happen DICE

 

[pa22word]

WW1 is barely, if at all, covered in American schools from my experience so not surprised at people being confused about it.

No one wants to remember WW1 in the US. It was basically our Vietnam before Vietnam, and one of the key reasons the western front in WW2 wouldn't have happened without Germany stupidly declaring war on the US + a leading cause for why the US turned so isolationist following the end period of the war.


There's no good memories to that war, just pain. Thus most like to focus on the positive, internationalist and interventionist US in WW2 without the context of WW1. A lot of people in europe tend to forget there's a giant ocean between us, and for most of US history the US was more than willing to let Europe continually destroy itself over and over again without spilling American blood in the process. Some fear that letting such a message spread would further cause isolationist feelings spreading in the US. On the otherside, spinning history to make us feel good about getting into WW2 has its numerous downsides. Because we forgot about WW1, boneheaded decisions in Greece, Korea, and Vietnam followed after WW2.

US world history is a complicated and multifaceted subject that boils down to more than "muricans weren't in WW1 so they don't care", even if that is more convenient for the ignoramuses of this board to float in order to feel better about themselves. Truth is the US played a major role in both wars, and especially important in WW1 as the US entering in on the allied side effectively ended the war.

 

[therapist]

happy its not futuristic , altho it looks like a scifi ww1 kinda.(Kinda like TNO i guess)

We'll see , optimistic now!

 

[Raide]

I don't get the negatively. I'm very highly intrigued by a WW1 setting.

Yeah, it could be done really well. My only problem with WWI is boring ass weapons and boring vehicles etc. It could have some great set pieces for a SP campaign but MP is clunky when WWI and a lack of technology comes into play.

 

[BrettHeazy]

God they are going with the blue and orange yet again !

it's their branding...

do you expect facebook to do a press conference with a red logo?

 

[Podge293]

If they don't include Christmas Day football dlc I'll be very upset

 

[Cabbagehead]

Looks like the white dude from the teaser.

Not even the same people.

 

[SpartanForce]

not to go into racism or nothing like but the dude is black. the western front did not use much colonial troops on that theater, I think. If this game plays like the recent Verdun most people will hate it.


and since this probably is usa saving the world, it just don't make any logic.

 

[Mr_Irish]

As long as they make aircraft fun to play again (if there are any in the new game), I'm in. I don't want none of those slow ass jets with lock-on BS from BF3/4.

 

[dolabla]

That's badass if it's WW1. I will most definitely buy it.

 

[Gaz Pwnage]

But there is nothing in that keyart that would suggest it isn't WW1. So I don't know what you are trying to say.


Also, have no clue what RA2 is.

I am trying to say that whilst this maybe set in WW1, it certainly doesn't mean that its necessarily the WW1 we know of.

RA2 is Command & Conquer Red Alert 2, which is an RTS set in an alternative "modern" time where hitler was killed before he started WW1 in the first game. The Soviet bomber aircraft is a zeppelin.

 

[More_Badass]

Interested in the game, BF3 & 4 remains some of my favourite multiplayer games but a WW1 setting seems kind of in poor taste. It wouldn't necessarily work as a FPS unless you jazz it up, but then you're glorifying one of the worst wars ever seen. Not saying you can't have games in that setting but give it the credence it deserves (Valiant Hearts does fantastically well in this regard). I only hope EA/DICE does do that rather than give it the AAA big budget guns and explosions treatment seen in past single player Battlefield campaigns.

Literal walls of explosions and hailstorms of gunfire was like the bread and butter of the WWI front. If anything this is the game that will have the most explosions yet

 

[Nokterian]

The best part of these threads are and will continue to be the "Wtf, don't you people know anything about WW1?" posts.

Little hint: Nah they probably don't. WW1 gets no respect in typical US education. It's basically "Things were messed up, trenches and gas for 4 years, BUT YO LEMME TELL YOU BOUT HITLER THOUGH."

So far i know in the netherlands nothing was learned about WW1 either..we only learned from WW2. I needed to learn about WW1 when i saw a book in the library years ago. And believe me people are not going to like this game because it is WW1 and it isn't WW2.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Holy shit this is beautiful. It could end up being a burning trashpile but at this point I'm on board for literally any setting that's not near future or modern day.

I wouldn't mind modern day if someone would bother to try to tackle it in a serious manner. We've got like Spec Ops. And that's it.

 

[StrangeTaco]

not to go into racism or nothing like but the dude is black. the western front did not use much colonial troops on that theater, I think. If this game plays like the recent Verdun most people will hate it.


and since this probably is usa saving the world, it just don't make any logic.

It's an alternate reality WW1, so historical accuracy doesn't really matter too much.

 

[shandy706]

I need to go read a history book, were helicopters around back then? Wondering how limited this game is going to be.

LOLOL

What?

 

[old manatee]

$10 says there will be a level in the campaign called "All Quiet On the Western Front".

It will be an achievement for getting melee kills.