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NX officially has the least time between reveal and release of any Nintendo platform

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jdstorm

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It's been a while since I have checked in on an NX thread.

I'm taking the position that. Nintendo have a gimic that's incredibly easy to reverse engineer. so they are keeping things as close to the vest as possible.

Combine that with a March launch meaning that games due to release them won't have that much graphical polish yet and Nintendo just has to keep stalling.

They can't show the tech and get beaten to the punch and they don't want a Starfox Zero situation where people criticise how it looks for months because it's not ready to be seen by the public yet.

Nintendo really do need to get some news out there before the general public buy a PS4 (slim/pro) and spend all their disposable gaming income on another manufacturers console.

But whenever the reveal is. I'm expecting a "Teaser trailer" that mentions 5-10 NX exclusive titles availiable in the launch window. Then a slow drip feed that shows off one of those games every few weeks. Until there is a total blowout about a month before launch
 

udivision

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People would kill them if they waited until Q3.

Despite the outrage and stuff, people are actually a lot more patient than given credit for.

They've delayed Zelda several, twice in the span of 6 months. When it comes to delaying things, there is no "final straw" or anything.

I think the industry realizes that. Nearly every big game this year was delayed. The VR launch took a lot longer than expected to with its rollout.

As long as it is stilling coming, people will put up with it. Cancellation is the real "every go crazy" scenario.
 

Speely

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Ok let's look at one possible component of a potential shorter reveal-to-release timeframe: Fear of being copied. Assuming Miyamoto was not just saying shit to be saying shit, what could possibly be copied in a < 6 month timeframe? Serious hardware features would seemingly be off the table there, especially if any patents are involved, but even aside from that, a manufacturer cannot simply scrap and redesign something and have it go into production instantly to beat someone else to market. Not successfully, anyway.

So if we assume that a fear of being copied truly has anything to do with the lack of NX info, what could the relevant feature or features be?
 
Rösti;218854505 said:
Nintendo's FY 2016 Second Quarter Earnings Release | October 26, following the close of the market (JPX) at 03:15 PM JST.

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Nintendo's FY 2016 Corporate Management Policy Briefing* / Semi-Annual Financial Results Briefing | Tentatively scheduled for October 27, 10:00 AM JST.

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https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html

The fact that we are roughly three weeks away from Nintendo's FY 2016 Second Quarter Earnings Release/Briefing where we most likely will get some news on NX can perhaps bring some joy. Especially if a Corporate Management Policy Briefing is scheduled, one should definitely expect some news. Those briefings have in the past happened in January or October (or both)

Nintendo Corporate Management Policy Briefings Per Calendar Year

2015: October
2014: October & January
2013: January
2012: January
2011: None
2010: October
2009: October

If a reveal of NX will happen prior to, or after, the upcoming earnings release I do not know. But I think the chance of official news in October is quite high.

Here is a list anyway of what is to be expected on October 26/27:

  • Six Months Earnings
  • Notice of Dividend (end of 2nd quarter)
  • Supplementary Information about Earnings Release (including updated release schedule)
  • Presentation by the President
  • Q & A

So, can we expect some input in the coming weeks and months?
 

Trago

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Ok let's look at one possible component of a potential shorter reveal-to-release timeframe: Fear of being copied. Assuming Miyamoto was not just saying shit to be saying shit, what could possibly be copied in a < 6 month timeframe? Serious hardware features would seemingly be off the table there, especially if any patents are involved, but even aside from that, a manufacturer cannot simply scrap and redesign something and have it go into production instantly to beat someone else to market. Not successfully, anyway.

So if we assume that a fear of being copied truly has anything to do with the lack of NX info, what could the relevant feature or features be?

Personally, I thought that all of that was a bunch of horse shit. I thought they weren't worried about what the other two do.

Their messaging better be on point if they feel the need to wait this long.
 
I mean when your software pipeline after November 18 (launch of Sun and Moon) is drier than anything I have seen from a major console manufacturer and there is nothing to look forward to after then your PR is just ass

They mentioned the machine in March 2015 in desperation because of how bad their pipeline was looking and them making the move towards mobile

Now fans are literally left in the dark concerning this machine they talked about and mentioned that they would talk about. They even asked a site to remove a small statement about the NX that revealed absolutely nothing. The NX could be a fantastic revolutionary machine but Nintendo's PR is fucking ass.

No reveals of what's upcoming for the Wii U/3DS doesn't necessarily mean that no development team is working on a game for these platforms in the foreseeable future. So, it's absurd to jump to conclusions and say that the NX is the only thing to look forward to after Pokemon S/M as a result. After all, how many times have we seen through Directs that Nintendo is releasing a few games for the Wii U/3DS after anticipating a dry period? Furthermore, even when the NX comes out, they're still going to plan to release software for the dying consoles.

Additionally, making the move to mobile doesn't really have anything to do with the NX. It's another revenue stream that they just now realize could be exploited instead of relying on the traditional console business model.
 

Chindogg

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Anyone else been thinking recently that NX will get delayed to next fall?

Everyone's been saying it's gonna get delayed, but those people would be dumb because if Nintendo did delay it they'd be giving investors false information and thus violate several SEC regulations.
 

Neiteio

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Nintendo has figured out the true nature of dark matter, besting NASA and other researchers around the world. They don't want competitors to copy their findings, which will form the core of NX — neither console nor portable, it's actually an energy ball you can throw at your friends, DBZ-style. They'll call it: The Nintendo Do It Now, Gohan.
 
It's been a while since I have checked in on an NX thread.

I'm taking the position that. Nintendo have a gimic that's incredibly easy to reverse engineer. so they are keeping things as close to the vest as possible.

Bro... Nobody wants to copy Nintendo gimmicks anymore lmao.
 

Speely

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Bro... Nobody wants to copy Nintendo gimmicks anymore lmao.

Until one catches on again like it did with the console before their last one. People love to use the term "gimmick" as a perjorative, but when the gimmick takes off it becomes a "feature."

Everything is a gimmick until the receipts are seen.
 
Bro... Nobody wants to copy Nintendo gimmicks anymore lmao.
Didn't they do some pseudo copy of the Wii U Gamepad? Also, how can they copy the NX when it hasn't been revealed? Wii U was their latest invention that could be copied. Nintendo hasn't released anything since then.
 
Everyone's been saying it's gonna get delayed, but those people would be dumb because if Nintendo did delay it they'd be giving investors false information and thus violate several SEC regulations.

Plans can change. They could've originally planned it for a March 2017 launch, but then ran into technical difficulties, thus a delay.
 

FZZ

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No reveals of what's upcoming for the Wii U/3DS doesn't necessarily mean that no development team is working on a game for these platforms in the foreseeable future. So, it's absurd to jump to conclusions and say that the NX is the only thing to look forward to after Pokemon S/M as a result. After all, how many times have we seen through Directs that Nintendo is releasing a few games for the Wii U/3DS after anticipating a dry period? Furthermore, even when the NX comes out, they're still going to plan to release software for the dying consoles.

Additionally, making the move to mobile doesn't really have anything to do with the NX. It's another revenue stream that they just now realize could be exploited instead of relying on the traditional console business model.

Their PR is still ass bruh
 

jdstorm

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Bro... Nobody wants to copy Nintendo gimmicks anymore lmao.

Lol. Sony is literally reviving the PS Move for PSVR and that was a shameless knockoff of Wii mote style motion controls.

I have no idea what Nintendo is planning. However they seem to think it's groundbreaking. So I'm cautiously optimistic that they are right. Nintendo has been doing cutting edge tech in their last few consoles (to mixed reception) but the Wii's motion controls, The WiiU's Streaming tech and the 3DS's Eye tracking glasses free 3D are all cutting edge features/gimmicks that Nintendo have released.

And all of them have to some degree produced equivalent products by competitors
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
This one was only bumped probably because the other ones are locked lol. People who want to discuss NX find a way. Better here than opening another Emily Rodgers thread tbh

Finding other threads to discuss about NX is best way to get those threads locked but I understand people are desperate for NX news. I'm still #teamNovember for the NX announcement.
 
Who's Nate?

He told us that NX uses a custom tegra with pascal, he stands by it and says he has good sources. If it's true, i don't know, some people here tend to trust him so i thought i would share his video with thoughts on NX raw power (and other things). Didn't want to make a new thread for it so i used this. And people get mad again.
 
Plans can change. They could've originally planned it for a March 2017 launch, but then ran into technical difficulties, thus a delay.
Yeah, but there's nothing at all showing there might be a delay as of right now. As of now March 2017 is what they've said.
 

Bronetta

Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
At this rate Nintendo will announce the NX in February
 

psyfi

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I was so sure it was going to get announced in September. Now I have no idea what to think, lol. If we don't hear about it by November, then I'll be really confused.
 
Then what do you think Nintendo will do to keep themselves in the black & their investors not absolutely livid until then?

They don't have to think like this.

Have you seen their balance sheet?

What's beautiful about Nintendo is that it is one of the last companies out there that doesn't allow investors to have it completely by the balls. They still do what the fuck they want, when they want to.

It's great, in my opinion. A refreshing burst of the air of truth that resists capitalism's worst flaws.
 
I was so sure it was going to get announced in September. Now I have no idea what to think, lol. If we don't hear about it by November, then I'll be really confused.
I think most were expecting September. You had insiders here saying September or around TGS. Something may have happened to where they pushed it back to October.

This has to be the month before the investors meeting.
 

Sendou

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They don't have to think like this.

Have you seen their balance sheet?

What's beautiful about Nintendo is that it is one of the last companies out there that doesn't allow investors to have it completely by the balls. They still do what the fuck they want, when they want to.

It's great, in my opinion. A refreshing burst of the air of truth that resists capitalism's worst flaws.

Yeah that's not how it works.
 
They don't have to think like this.

Have you seen their balance sheet?

What's beautiful about Nintendo is that it is one of the last companies out there that doesn't allow investors to have it completely by the balls. They still do what the fuck they want, when they want to.

It's great, in my opinion. A refreshing burst of the air of truth that resists capitalism's worst flaws.

I'm in love with capitalism as much as the next guy but this isn't realistic at all.
 
Didn't they do some pseudo copy of the Wii U Gamepad? Also, how can they copy the NX when it hasn't been revealed? Wii U was their latest invention that could be copied. Nintendo hasn't released anything since then.

I don't know when the features were announced so I can't say definitively, but didn't the Xbox One Smart Glass come out after Wii U? And not only that but there have been several games that pair with smartphone apps to mimic the dual-screen gaming of the Wii U, but again, I have no idea about the timeline there so it could have just been something that happened across all platforms at relatively the same time.
 

Clessidor

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If Nintendo would have planned to release NX in Fall 2017, they wouldn't have announced a March release in the first place. A delay would just be bad press for a new device. People would hate that and feel like Nintendo lied to them.
And they wouldn't get anything by promising it for March.

So a delay would mean something really bad has happened, which caused it. Is there any reason to believe into a delay and that something has happened?
Honestly no.
They just haven't talked about it yet, but they still have time to promote a march release.

That's why I wouldn't even consider a delay yet.
 
oh don't worry they've got plenty of time to delay

Pokemon GO still doesn't have a proper tracking system to let you know when you're near a pokemon.The one they had at launch was great, but they took it away to reduce bandwidth, and now that no one plays GO anymore, they still haven't brought it back. smh
 

Elija2

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It would be pretty funny (and sad) if the NES Classic Edition gets more time in between its reveal and release than the NX does.
 
I don't know when the features were announced so I can't say definitively, but didn't the Xbox One Smart Glass come out after Wii U? And not only that but there have been several games that pair with smartphone apps to mimic the dual-screen gaming of the Wii U, but again, I have no idea about the timeline there so it could have just been something that happened across all platforms at relatively the same time.

I looked it up. MS's Smartglass was announced in E3 2012-a year after Nintendo announced the Wii U at E3 2011.

I guess this could honestly be the reason Nintendo wants to keep it as close to launch as possible for the reveal. They could genuinely not want anybody to have much time to copy them for atleast a year or so.
 

Davey Cakes

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At this point I'm not holding out for any announcements this month. If we get one, great. But, in my opinion, all eyes should be on the investor meeting at the end of the month. Nintendo HAS to say at least SOMETHING at that point. It's pretty much definite.

Our expectations, at the very least, can be that we'll get word straight from Nintendo at that time, even if it's just details about their release plans as opposed to what we really want to know (games, price, etc.). It'll be the bare minimum to give us a taste.

Otherwise, we're using too much energy hoping for leaks and rumors. Just play some fucking games, people. You'll get your NX info soon enough.
 
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