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PSVR has sold over 900,000 units to date
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Unknown Soldier
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Has the PSVR already outsold the Rift and Vive combined yet?
Sangetsu-II
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2 things that made you overeact with this post.
1) I never said any sales figures I just said that PSVR would open the devs to twice the sales, so VR only devs wouldn't abandoned PSVR on a whim.
2) I never said Rift/Vive don't get more games than PSVR. Vive/Rift getting more VR releases has more to do with it being easy to publish on an open platform and/or having to do with PS4 not being powerful enough. But, if the VR games that devs make run on PSVR, you sure as hell won't see a dev not port it on PSVR to get extra sales.
My main argument was that PSVR wouldn't be abandoned by VR only devs, so there will always be games releasing on it. Sales figures only matter for AAA support as we can all see.
Pocky4Th3Win
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Since when has there been a Pro shortage? My store has never run out...
You may want to edit this because your math is wrong which makes the rest of your post wrong. Half of 9 is 4.5.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Bought mine day one and sold it a couple of weeks ago for what I paid for it. I enjoyed my time with it but outside of RE it lost its luster pretty quickly so I'm glad I essentially rented one for free for 4 months.
Obliterator
Member
We don't have solid figures for either of those, but from all indications yes PSVR has outsold both combined
The Pro seems to be going out of stock all the time in UK.
I've been meaning to get my hands on one at Curry's (got a discount coupon) and they haven't had it in stock for about two to three weeks. Amazon keeps running out of stock, too.
Sangetsu-II
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Edited, is it better now?
Never meant to make this a sales argument, my reply was based on why would VR only devs abandon PSVR.
I'm with the Flop crowd. Sony maybe pulling a Nintendo to guage demand. Its been out for what 5 months and for 900K worlwide, I believe?? Is not that impressive. Look I owned a PSP and Vita and got excited the first year sales too, but like others are saying. When the PS4 has a 50 million userbase, for some developers maybe a 20% of that userbase must own a PSVR to make it attractive to them to develope more PSVR games. That small amount is Vita numbers. Unless PSVR goes down 100-200 in price, it won't ve selling gangbusters anytime soon.
sturgboski
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It also isnt that simple for a few reasons. Like the sales argument, even if PSVR has a larger userbase, it does not mean it is guaranteed sales, but potential sales (which should be a selling point to support the PSVR). The technical limitation is, I believe for most titles on PC you need a pretty powerful rig, and I imagine most titles are currently in the "enthusiasts will get whatever they need in their PC to get this to work" phase. Now, admittedly, I have not followed VR on PC in a long time so maybe requirements have dropped.
Theoretically, the shift should be focus on PSVR first and scale up for PC to make it theoretically easier to support all platforms and thus have the largest potential sales base.
Neuromancer
Member
Awesome. As a PSVR owner I am happy with these sales because I want more support for it in the future.
In the US you can now get the HMD at Best Buy, Gamestop and Walmart:
http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/accessories/playstationvr/
Not sure if you read the article but it talks about how Sony lowballed supply and has been surprised by the demand. You just never know how well anythings going to do these days. We all know if there was a ton of unsold PSVR stock wallowing on the shelves people would have given them shit for that too.
In the US you can now get the HMD at Best Buy, Gamestop and Walmart:
http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/accessories/playstationvr/
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
The amount of flip flopping is amazing. This thing wasn't selling millions upon millions nor was Sony expecting it too. When it was about to come out they were happy with their 100's of thousands of pre orders. Now it's a flop I don't get it.
xrnzaaas
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A lot depends on Sony's actions imo. They must keep releasing VR games themselves and they must convince other publishers to do that. The route taken by Resident 7 seems the best. The game is fully playable and fully enjoyable in VR and non-VR modes.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Doesnt install base imply sales?
Either way, much of newer vr titles seem to suggest they aint really on board in the first place.
I will go to sleep now, its rather late.
Agent X
Gold Member
The size of the userbase isn't the only factor. Another important factor to consider is those customers' willingness to spend money.
If PSVR owners have a tendency to open their wallet to purchase PSVR games, then you can be assured that developers will continue to support those users.
sugarhigh4242
Banned
I'll buy a PSVR if Sony convinces me they'll support it for 3 years. Also they have to fix the HDR issue.
King of Custard
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Sony are happy with these numbers so that's a good sign, I bet they are kicking themselves for having supply issues though.
I don't know why people are upset about that.
I don't know why people are upset about that.
sturgboski
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I said in another thread, but now that it seems the Gravity Rush franchise is over (or at least I think that is the consensus, and before anyone jumps on me I am not happy about that), I want Project Siren to:
1) Do a port of Siren Blood Curse for PS4 (probably farm that out to some other studio) to bring that fanbase back
2) Make a Siren game on PS4 that supports PSVR in the same fashion as RE7
Further, I would love an Until Dawn sequel. Not sure how to get VR incorporated in that, but maybe they continue the Until Dawn VR on rails series as well as Until Dawn itself?
Welfare
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PSVR has to be treated as a long term investment for Sony. It is already beating their expectations and that is still with supply not fully covering demand. Once bigger releases come out and price drops and or more attractive bundles appear, PSVR should continue to have success while riding on the "novelty" aspect of the tech.
Isn't it quite terrible for an accessory for which there is marketing, development efforts, shows, kiosks. You don't spend so much effort and time on an accessory which you are expecting to sell a million or two in year.
Either Sony didn't design it well to have an adequate production line or they just designed it for testing purposes.
Either Sony didn't design it well to have an adequate production line or they just designed it for testing purposes.
So why would you assume attach rate would be any higher on PC than on PSVR? Sure not all 900k PSVR users would buy every title, but it's the same for 600-700k PC VR sales.
What would make most sense if for AAA devs to hit PSVR first, with a single target headset and a vanilla/Pro hardware target. The high install base, closed ecosystem and single target make this the most AAA friendly model to follow
For indies, it makes more sense to target PC first, since you can leverage early access and much lower barrier to publish. If it makes enough money and has decent word of mouth, the dev could probably afford to publish a PSVR port.
harrisk954
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Why would people actually READ the article before pulling uninformed, baseless statements out of their asses? This is the internet, after all!
On topic, I bet the attach rate is super high. I personally have purchased almost every game released so far. This week alone, I bought Mervals, Psychnauts and Rez. Been playing then all weekend.
I'm pretty sure Sony is playing the long term here (As they should) so when VR really kicks off for the mainstream, they'll have an established name, an established VR library, and established experience in selling and marketing said library and headset itself.
If a company is trying to get into VR to make a quick buck then they're delusional.
Not necessarily, otherwise the worldwide sales of the XB1, should make it a no-brainer for a lot of Japanese games, otherwise they'd be giving up 50% of whatever the PS4 version sells. But there's plenty of data to show that often not being close to the case (let alone the "hundreds of millions of gaming PCs argument").
In regards to VR, it's very likely that someone willing to buy more premium hardware (both the PC itself, as well as the headset/controllers) is more likely to then buy a lot of software for that platform.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
This explains alot in this thread
JimJamJones
Member
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like hype for PSVR fell of a fucking cliff post-release.
harrisk954
Member
How is it not a good number when they are meeting their own internal projections?
I can't tell if this is a joke post. This is a device that costs as much as a console and that it has been oos for a while.
That's because the library is slow, I told people they should have seen that coming but hype beats all. I'm sure there's those that still use it daily.
It's all up to Sony to keep the hype alive, which is why I believe E3 will be super important for PSVR.
Omnistalgic
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RE7 is the killer app...
I'd imagine racing games will be really great as well.
I'd imagine racing games will be really great as well.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Did people buy two kinects?
Because that's what PSVR minimum costs.
No way is any VR getting those type of sale numbers unless they give them away with something ala Gear VR.
LukasTaves
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No, I just don't see how they can go from 68k in December from US (their biggest market), and that being almost flat from November, to 900k worldwide in January and February.
Of course the Us is not the whole world, but psvr haven't lighting the charts on other countries either.
MiloHoffman
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want 30+ million sales? just make GTA VI PSVR compatible and this thing will sale like hot pancakes
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sturgboski
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Oh the original comment was by supporting the PSVR they would get double the sales, which is not entirely accurate which is what I was trying to get across. Supporting the platform with the largest potential sales base is the best approach, which is why I said the shift should be to build for the PS4/PSVR and scale from there for PC so you support the platform with the largest number of VR owners AND have the added benefit of supporting all VR markets (well save things like headset VR).
Sorry, guess I didnt explain as well as I thought. Again, I was just trying to point out that putting the title on the PSVR is not a guarantee of double sales compared to PC, but potential sales. And that building for PSVR first has the potential to net more sales as you are hitting the largest install base (PSVR) and, can scale up/out on PC for increased sales. Though, I do see your point about the indie titles being able to leverage early access and the like as a plus for them to focus PC first.
Deadpool_X
Banned
How many have been returned? 3 of my 5 friends who bought one had to return them because they were defective. One of them had the headset die, and the other 2 had bad breakout boxes.
Not trying to say it's a bad product or every one is defective, btw. This is just my personal experience, for what little that is worth.
Not trying to say it's a bad product or every one is defective, btw. This is just my personal experience, for what little that is worth.
I guess Andrew House is prepping his resume to work in the White House
Sangetsu-II
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Heh, a lot of people will never believe that.
Hmmm, someone hasn't been paying attention. It was sold out everywhere (except Canada cuz of reasons) in the last two months, that created a lot of demand, people bought it when the retailers stocked units daily.
Majmun
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I've never seen a retail unit. Germany here. I'm not looking for it regularly though. Just when I happen to be in a store.
TropicanaTwista
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Did you, like, read the article?
Yeah the JP adoption seems to be pretty strong, from some accounts anyway
Sword Of Doom
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900k is enough to get developers and publishers to release games for it. Just like anything at launch that doesn't have a lot of software, you'll get very high attach rates.
Around the holidays I saw like 3-4 just sitting on a shelf at Best Buy in Southern California. I had no idea there were still supply constraints
Around the holidays I saw like 3-4 just sitting on a shelf at Best Buy in Southern California. I had no idea there were still supply constraints
Teknopathetic
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"But even if PCVR has more than half of the VR userbase of PSVR, why would these VR Only devs abandon PSVR if that would net them almost twice the sales literally?"
Because there are things you can do with PCVR that are impossible on PSVR.
Because there are things you can do with PCVR that are impossible on PSVR.