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Game Director Says Project Cars 2 on XB1X Looks Significantly Better than on PS4 Pro
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Jeronimo Jones
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Water isn't dry.
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Dried ice begs to differ!
THE:MILKMAN
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No. I'm saying the 2.4TF difference between PS4 and Pro shows only a subtle difference in games with Pro modes/upgrades (DF videos) and the difference from Pro to One X is 'only' 1.8TF.
Granted, the One X has much higher bandwidth and more RAM that might make more of a difference. We'll see. If more games do full 4K then most of the extra resources One X has might be used for that.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Its not an outrage lol. Its an observation. And like we said its this thread specifically.
Sheesh, always any comment contrary to current popular opinion gotta be rectified for some reason
Chris_Rivera
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Tell that to bungie
Dude, 60fps is too much for jaguar for that game.
Nekketsu Kõha
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If I was into racing sims I wouldn't buy a PS4.
LOL
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Dry ice isn't water.
Joke.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Noboru Wataya
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Reading their support page briefly I get the impression the rumble and force feedback doesn't work using a G29 with ChronusMax. Am I right in this?
Steve McQueen
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Well, I'm in Europe ( The Netherlands ) and I have a pre-order at Gamemania. Hope you guys will be able to order a system eventually.
Here in NZ you can preorder anything at EB Games the second theres even a whiff of its existance. I preordered Zelda for WiiU when they first said "Hey, we're making a zelda game" And I preordered a SNES mini a few weeks ago now.
My biggest concern with the console versions will be the framerate. I know they optimized the engine much better for consoles this time, so it'll be interesting to see how it improves over the original.
I don't agree that the PS4 is significantly more powerful than the XBO. It's noticeably more powerful in some respects but I wouldn't use the word significant and I'm sure most devs would agree. The XBO even beats out the PS4 in some ways, even if it's slight.
Regardless, it's not really accurate to look at the PS4 v XBO and assume the same is with the Pro and 1X.
Can't really agree with this. I think there is a noticeable improvement in most games when moving from the OG PS4 to the Pro. Even when the resolution is just bumped up to 1440p it's noticeably sharper on a 4K screen.
I don't agree that the PS4 is significantly more powerful than the XBO. It's noticeably more powerful in some respects but I wouldn't use the word significant and I'm sure most devs would agree. The XBO even beats out the PS4 in some ways, even if it's slight.
Regardless, it's not really accurate to look at the PS4 v XBO and assume the same is with the Pro and 1X.
Can't really agree with this. I think there is a noticeable improvement in most games when moving from the OG PS4 to the Pro. Even when the resolution is just bumped up to 1440p it's noticeably sharper on a 4K screen.
Seganomics
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So the developers idea of a significant upgrade may differ from yours? I don't think that makes the thread title an exaggeration in any way.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
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Ohhh nm than, it's an "empty" pre-order, FCC still haven't opened the gates or green lited..you got my heart skip a beat when you mentioned about open pre-or. Called BB for no reason lol and Amazon never got em available on the page.
Just as significant as the diivde between PS4 and XB1 I imagine.....
Having said that, I do expect checkerboard rendering will narrow the gap somewhat between xbonex and pro, since many can't tell the difference between native and CB 4k..
Tell me since I don't understand
Why would they exclusively do CB rendering on PS4 P if it made both platforms look similar?
This is where things will get interesting IMO. Depending on what the studio's goals are, we may see CB on the Pro and native on the 1X. However if CB rendering is added to an engine, I see many studios using it on both systems, 1800cp on Pro and 2160cp on 1X for example or 2160cp on both systems with noticeable improvements elsewhere on the 1X.
Even if a game can hit native 4K on the 1X, developers may still choose to use CB rendering if they can use the additional resources on other aspects to further benefit the graphical makeup.
Just as significant as the diivde between PS4 and XB1 I imagine.....
Having said that, I do expect checkerboard rendering will narrow the gap somewhat between xbonex and pro, since many can't tell the difference between native and CB 4k..
40% more rendering but add in the extra RAM for 4k textures and other memory speed improvements and it is a greater difference
Killing floor is native 1800p vs 1800 checkerboard from 900p
Thats a bit of difference power wise
Liliana Eileen
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Just as significant as the diivde between PS4 and XB1 I imagine.....
Having said that, I do expect checkerboard rendering will narrow the gap somewhat between xbonex and pro, since many can't tell the difference between native and CB 4k..
Already beaten, but it's a lot more significant than the divide between PS4 and XB1. The 4 extra gigs of ram alone attest to that amongst other things. Keep fighting the good fight, though.
That has nothing to do with what we were getting at, so calm down. You know well exactly what we were getting at; no need to quote us and feign ignorance.
Chris Metal
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Will there be a years worth of significant slider difference though?
I'm not shocked by this quote...
GTR R35_Supra RZ
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I'm perfectly calm, thanks.
To recapitulate: You were complaining that there are too many threads that claim that games will look similar between the XBX and the PS4P. Those claims aren't happening in this thread about Project Cars 2, so I suggested that you save your outrage for the thread where those claims do occur.
The most common response in this thread is that this topic is non-news ... that it's exactly what everyone expected. Absolutely no outrage necessary.
Christocolus
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Lol.
Liliana Eileen
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So I quoted a guy in aggreance and expanded on why I agreed, and that makes me "complaining?" Stating something isn't the same as complaining just because the statement makes you upset. And you're literally lying to attempt at making a rebuttal; I never said there were too many threads claiming the two consoles look similar. I said the narrative in a lot of threads (usually DF or threads regarding 4k) is that both versions of XYZ game will look almost identical, and now a developer saying the 1X version is substantially better is suddenly as common sense as water being wet. That's all. You're making this way bigger than it is just because the statement seemingly got you enraged and trying to create a strawman out of nothing.
Speaking of strawmans, why are you saying no one is saying those things in this thread? Why WOULD anyone say those things in a thread about a dev of the game in question is literally confirming the 1X version being significantly better? That is literally the point to what the guy who I was quoting and myself were getting at, that in this thread shockingly everyone is acting like this is something that's expected for every game here on out when in reality that isn't the general consensus here.
Please spare me the "outrage" crap because you don't agree with our posts for obvious reasons.
Seganomics
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Shpeshal Nick
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Obviously.
Liliana Eileen
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Haha, I missed that, too. Hilarious in retrospect 😂
On the flip side it's pretty awesome to know what you're getting.
Look at all that juice!!
I think a good way of looking at it is, if you go in expecting XBO to PS4 level differences you'll rarely be disappointed, and more often than not you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Again, I'm perfectly calm, thanks.
You'll need to be more specific. What are the "obvious reasons" that I don't agree with your posts?
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