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famousmortimer: Xbox One OS and Xbox Live issues bouncing about as we approach launch

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Guys... where am I having a mental breakdown or not having a thick skin? Seriously. I'm reading these comments and I'm completely lost. What in the world did I say?
 

Tookay

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The propaganda train keeps a rolling!!!!

Cute.
 

tickling

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Confirmation bias on your part, or maybe ignorance. Xb live issues were buried under the COD 720p news.
We had crpytic journalist tweets throwing hiss fits over something much more minor to this regarding the ps4 ( which turns out to be almost nothing concerning consumers) and an anonymous tip to DF claiming balance for XB1.

Look at Swift deaths above. Make no mistake the Xbox One has issues but so does the PS4. It seems like the PS4 problems get brushed aside for the most part.

I will be getting both consoles so I have no bias anyway.
 
I guess a lot of gamers are just tired of being lied to, used and abused from MS. first it was the DRM, then it was the paywall shit for everything on Xbox one. Then MS is saying there is no real power difference, lying once again, then the 720 vs 1080p hits the web, more evidence of a less powerful console. insiders hinting that there is some embargo on stuff that really is affecting the gamers, but gamers wont know until launch what it is.

I get why gamers and their grandmother wants to rip the company apart.
 
Guys... where am I having a mental breakdown or not having a thick skin? Seriously. I'm reading these comments and I'm completely lost. What in the world did I say?

Nothing. The more they attack you, trying to paint you as having a mental break down or being imbalanced the more they are showing they are desperate. They are afraid and they should be.
 

Vitor711

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What bad news about the PS4? To be honest i don't give a shit about any of the consoles. If you're talking about the news where the whiny baby journalists aren't getting free PS4's so they can do a review and post it on Youtube and get hits and money off it i have something to tell you. That's not news.

Whut?

That's not what that's been about at all. The issue is being forced to review games at a controlled event if you want to get a review out before launch. Traffic on reviews basically nosedives after launch day so it hurts companies who say no. And, apparently, the events are placing ridiculous restrictions on how you play the game as well as providing an optimal scenario for doing so which skews the review positively.

Imagine being forced to review Kinect games in a massive room with perfect lighting conditions. Not exactly representative of the final product for most people is it?
 

Actually if everyone could just use this OVERALL THREAD SUMMARY that would be best

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=87786946&highlight=#post87786946

Really helps get that ad revenue that bolsters my gaf gold account

CW only pays so much for each view of a supernatural gif :p

The sarcasm is strong with this one but seriously the summary maybe helpful
 

Tookay

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Look at Swift deaths above. Make no mistake the Xbox One has issues but so does the PS4. It seems like the PS4 problems get brushed aside for the most part.

I will be getting both consoles so I have no bias anyway.

So, once again, what do you want? For Famous Mortimer to make a false equivalency to satisfy your apparent desire for "balance" in this discussion? For somebody to throw in a token "PS4 has problems too" to qualify their criticism of the XBO?

It's not the leakers' (or forumgoers') fault that MS has been a leaky ship and that those leaks have been way more damaging too.
 
Whut?

That's not what that's been about at all. The issue is being forced to review games at a controlled event if you want to get a review out before launch. Traffic on reviews basically nosedives after launch day so it hurts companies who say no. And, apparently, the events are placing ridiculous restrictions on how you play the game as well as providing an optimal scenario for doing so which skews the review positively.

Imagine being forced to review Kinect games in a massive room with perfect lighting conditions. Not exactly representative of the final product for most people is it?
Movies are screened for film critics in perfect conditions. They even give them free food. It's not that different.

When you go see it yourself there's a chance of being in a shitty theater with no stadium seating, an old screen with a bad bulb, annoying crowd etc. The quality of the product is what counts.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
If you want to play the xbox exclusives do you really have a choice? Who knows how many hoops xbox one players will have to go through to play the games they want at launch, but at the end of the day what matters is games. I hate the ps3 controller and hate how slow the ps3 interface is but with games like The Last of Us and Uncharted it's ultimately worth going through the trouble.

again, it goes back to my initial post about it. how much of a beating do fans who want to play those exclusive have to take just to get to their end point?

the other stuff is just things that will work out with time, but you can't change the visual fidelity of a game designed to how the xbox hardware is designed.
 

Dead Man

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No he didn't. Well, he summed up the lack of information well I guess. At the moment there is nothing that anyone will hang their hat on as being a problem, other than maybe Sessler bitching about a review event or something. I have no doubt there are issues, but nobody has been very clear on what they are supposed to be except some people are worried since they haven't turned on their network yet.

Go get some more information and plenty of people will talk about those as well.

Guys... where am I having a mental breakdown or not having a thick skin? Seriously. I'm reading these comments and I'm completely lost. What in the world did I say?

Don't worry, take a break, have a nap, come back later.
 


i'll quote myself here too:

for those worried about PS4 having problems as well:

I wouldn't panic because there's nothing to panic over right now on PS4 side.

There is a plan in place and I don't know any kind of deadlines but the PSN going up for PS4 is part of that plan but some might see it as Sony being behind.

There is some issues on Sony's side but not like MSFT.

The issues I have heard about are based on connection which is due to go up next week.



If things go as they should it should be fine since we're fast approaching Sony getting their network on for PS4.

If I can get confirmation I will but it depends on availability.
Anonymous asked:I'm not sure Sony has been particularly forthcoming with unedited footage of their OS, either. They've both been pretty cagey in that regard.


Jeff Gerstmann: Didn’t some French site post a ton of raw, off-screen footage of themselves fucking around with a PS4? Could’ve sworn I saw that awhile ago.

Anyway, yeah, they’ve both been a little cagey, I guess. But I feel like I know way more about how the PS4 front-end will look and work, while all the Xbox One dashboard and multitasking footage looks… fake?

Sony's network goes online soon. I think we just need to wait for that.
 

Ashes

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Isn't that what he said about lower resolution games on 25% more expensive hardware? I feel it's an apt analogy.

The difference is between HD and full HD though. Your exaggeration only helps defeat your point, seeing as when someone points this out, the difference is seemingly not that much.
Thus the confusion.
 

Verendus

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First confirmation mort's leak is not the ass storm?

DAMN
I thought it wasn't? Their exchange seemed to hint something that CBOAT knew and may make public in the future. I'm kind of expecting a CBOAT return at some point.

Nothing. The more they attack you, trying to paint you as having a mental break down or being imbalanced the more they are showing they are desperate. They are afraid and they should be.
Amazing. I love you.

Just so you know, I am indeed a massive Xbox fan.

Also, PS4 has no games. Ain't my fault.
 
Wow... If this is all true then they fucked up in sooo many ways... How the hell is this possible?

How many people on GAF cancelled their XBOX-ONE preorder allready?i wonder what the effect of all these fuckups is.
 

madmackem

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Whut?

That's not what that's been about at all. The issue is being forced to review games at a controlled event if you want to get a review out before launch. Traffic on reviews basically nosedives after launch day so it hurts companies who say no. And, apparently, the events are placing ridiculous restrictions on how you play the game as well as providing an optimal scenario for doing so which skews the review positively.

Imagine being forced to review Kinect games in a massive room with perfect lighting conditions. Not exactly representative of the final product for most people is it?

Those type of events happen all the time, even more so at launch of a system where sony cant give every single website a debug unit.

As for all this i fear both may have bitten off more they can chew at launch, we are weeks away now and are hearing things like this it doesnt bode well for either.
 

Ashes

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Guys... where am I having a mental breakdown or not having a thick skin? Seriously. I'm reading these comments and I'm completely lost. What in the world did I say?

Your drunk post was quite an insight. Still, I'm not one to pursue drink addled speech as insight into the sobre one.
 

JoshHood

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Movies are screened for film critics in perfect conditions. They even give them free food. It's not that different.

When you go see it yourself there's a chance of being in a shitty theater with no stadium seating, an old screen with a bad bulb, annoying crowd etc. The quality of the product is what counts.
That is such a brilliantly irrelevant comparison to the games industry. Good work!
 
I'm just waiting for that other big rumour to float out now.

Surely, the time is coming. Escalation. It has to happen. Once it goes from PM to vague hints on the forum, that means someone is going to do an inevitable leak at some stage. I still foresee more negative Xbox One news and exploding threads on GAF. After that CBOAT and Bish exchange, I'm sure all 30,000 viewers are just dying of anticipation.


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Verendus

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Wow... If this is all true then they fucked up in sooo many ways... How the hell is this possible?

How many people on GAF cancelled their XBOX-ONE preorder allready?i wonder what the effect of all these fuckups is.
I cancelled my Xbox One pre-order.

I took it one step further, after reading the posts about potentially negative PS4 news (the humanity), I cancelled that pre-order too.

I'm half expecting you Gaffers to get blown up come launch day. This hardware cannot be trusted.
 
again, it goes back to my initial post about it. how much of a beating do fans who want to play those exclusive have to take just to get to their end point?

the other stuff is just things that will work out with time, but you can't change the visual fidelity of a game designed to how the xbox hardware is designed.

They don't have any other choice. The PS4 isn't going to have Halo, Forza, or Quantum Break. It's a shitty situation, but there is nothing they can do about it if they want to play the games.It's too late for Microsoft to change up their hardware so there is no use of complaining constantly about it (not saying that you specifically are).
 
I read that earlier and you should read his other posts and liquidmetal's eexplanation. How can they be having online problems when the service hasn't gone live? Journalists skeptical doesn't mean problems but keep trying.
Okay, I think you misread me. I never said Sony had service problems. I said that journalists are worried about problems because they haven't seen the service working at all (just a paraphrase of thuway). Hope that clears things up!
 
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