DZ_b_EZ said:

I'm calling it now - we're getting a release date at Tokyo Game Show.

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Maybe TGS 2016.

sigh.


oh well, maybe X will build off of the success of Xenoblade and have a story more in the scale of Xenogears/Xenosaga, and I'll get my epic JRPG fix in the next 3-4 years there instead.

Blasian Persuasion said:

But weren't both games announced at the same time?

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No, both were not.

At this point, Square Enix should make a self-aware FFXV, where the game begins at the city area we've been familiar with since the game was unveiled back in 2006, acting as a tutorial stage teaching the player a majority of the gameplay mechanics, which eventually culminates in a large-scale boss fight when suddenly, the game shoots forward 10 years to the present, where Noctis wakes up from this dream as a somewhat grizzled veteran who's "seen some messed up stuff" in his day.

shawnhi said:

sigh.


oh well, maybe X will build off of the success of Xenoblade and have a story more in the scale of Xenogears/Xenosaga, and I'll get my epic JRPG fix in the next 3-4 years there instead.

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Takahashi already stated that the idea behind Xenoblade was for Monolith Soft to distance themselves from the style associated with Xenogears and Xenosaga, viewing the story-heavy approach over gameplay as a dead end. It doesn't seem likely that they would change their minds for X.

fedexpeon said:

I guess Sony saw this coming and sold all SE stocks before the value dropping again?

What does SE even have for 2014, 2015 beside remastered stuff?
LOL...oh man, I guess we shouldn't have bought FFX:RM because SE will now remastered FF13 at this point before releasing a new IP.

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I hope what Verendus said is true about Sony having a "FF killer" JRPG in the works. Would love to see this actually be announced AND released before FFXV comes out. Would give Sony a chance to say, "Hey, Square Enix! What took you so long?".

In all seriousness, this wait is a joke, especially considering Square said one of the big things they are now aiming for is shorter dev times. Final Fantasy committee.... shyeah, more like a committee full of ASS!

todd360 said:

Square Enix just shot themselves in the foot.I don’t know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I’m an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It’s not like it is in America where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Japan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.What this means is the Japanese public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Final Fantasy 15 for either system, nor will they purchase any other Square Enix games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Square Enix has alienated an entire market with this move. Square Enix, publicly apologize and show Final Fantasy 15 at E3 or you can kiss your business goodbye.

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Considering what Square Enix has been doing as of lately, not only do they shame themselves, they shame their ancestors AND their descendants. Sakaguchi wakes up every night in a cold sweat because he can feel a disturbance in the force. And for whatever wrong he DID bring to Square(TSW), he was a damn fine leader till the end(moreso than the jokers who've been leading the company since).

Odd thing is, they DID kinda apologize last year. They said they were sorry for the FF series not being up to the quality it has been known for in the past. This almost seemed like they were striving to remedy EVERYTHING wrong they were doing and address it all with careful precision. A year's gone by and we are still stuck in the rut. Even with this sham of a committee formed, it means nothing if no change is made. It's all talk, no action.

Son Of D said:

This is how it feels. SE dancing around those who wanted and making the most of it.

Well there goes a chance of my December 2015 release date for Japan.

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I doubt SE is dancing around. The longer the game stays in development the more money they lose. The only people dancing would be those that get some type of financial benefit from this (for example short sellers if SE stock drops) or people that hate SE.

Big post incoming, please don't quote it all!!
I see some people are unfamiliar with the development of this legendary vaporware, so I decided to make a recap/timeline post for you all to read if you are interested. This has probably been done a dozen of times, but I had some spare time so why not.
Ladies and gentlemen I present you, the wonderous road to the biggest joke of the industry, Final Fantasy XV. It's not really that good though, I'm no Mama Robotnik.

2006

It all started the 8th of May 2006, when a Final Fantasy game called Final Fantasy Versus XIII was revealed at the Square Enix E3 press conference alongside another Final Fantasy game who's name I won't drop (oh yeah, and Agito for "Mobiles"). The word Versus implied that this game was going to take another direction than the more traditional "Final Fantasy XIII" (whoops, mentioned it) the game is supposed to be an action JRPG. The game is being directed by Tetsuya Nomura, character designer for the FF games and responsible for the Kingdom Hearts games.
Both were announced as a PS3 exclusive and were part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis project, fanboys rejoiced and cheered victory for the PS3.
Trailer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuWmF0uBgqQ


May the 17th brings us another glorious day with some more FFVXIII information, some story and gameplay details were revealed by our lord Tetsuya Nomura. The game was (and still is) handled by the Kingdom Hearts team. Regarding a release date Nomura said that the Kingdom Hearts team was:

"hard at work on the European version of Kingdom Hearts II, so they're only in the art and pre-production phase of development on the PS3 title"

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Toriyama wanted to get FFXIII out first and early (lol) as this is the first installment in the series.

May 31, 2006
Popular Japanese magazine Gaimaga interviewed Tetsuya Nomura, the interview contained some information regarding the status of the game:

"Absolutely nothing has been done on the actual scenario. However, I've had the plot worked out for some time, so you could say I'm discussing the plot and concept with the staff. However, we've yet to start actual work on the scenario."
Hyper PlayStation asked why they just didn't made the game into a numerical sequel instead of calling it Versus, Nomura responded with:
"With Versus, we are trying out a type of adventure that we couldn't do in the numbered series."

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The 1st of september, 2006
Square Enix announces their Tokyo Game Show 2006 lineup, Final Fantasy Versus XIII is included yayyyy-under the NON-PLAYABLE category as a video-ahhhh...

September 22, 2006
Square-Enix shows an extended E3 2006 trailer at the "Square-Enix Theatre", you know...The one we were watching for years and years.
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU
The internet deservedly hypes themselves up and Square-Enix delivers once again, good times are coming ladies and gents.

November 8, 2006
Nomura discussed the difficulties of working with the new PS3 hardware in the special edition Dengeki PS3 magazine:

"The hurdles are greater than they were in the move from the PS1 to the PS2. We're probably at the point where we could make a PS3 title. However, we're currently researching how to fully tap the specs. Things like real time footage and specifics on areas like the battle system will come once the White Engine is complete. We're currently working hard on the development of the White Engine], and once it's done, we'll have to research what can be done with it. Of course, we do have an idea of what we'd like to do"

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Don't expect Final Fantasy Versus XIII anytime soon then..

2007

January the 10th brings us some some tidbits regarding gameplay and story in the latest Famitsu.

March 2, 2007
Tetsuya Nomura reveals lots of story and some gameplay info, he's stating in this Ge-Maga interview that he wants Final Fantasy Versus XIII to be his last numbered Final Fantasy game he works on as a director ()

May 5, 2007
The game is sort of.... put on hold?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159862

Nomura says he prefers to work on one project at a time which is why he is currently focusing on his mobile game, Monotone at this time. He says he isn't forgetting about Versus but just waiting until he has more free time to begin working on it. He also doesn't want to begin working on Versus quite yet because of the high specifications of the PS3. He wants to utilize all the technology the PS3 contains and produce the game that he envisioned which isn't possible at the moment.

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E3 2007
Nope, no Final Fantasy Versus XIII over here!

July 17, 2007
Sony's press materials at the PlayStation Premier press conference state that the development of Final Fantasy XIII is 13% complete and Versus is at 1,3%()

September 28, 2007
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193939

This week Nomura was interviewed by Famitsu, but no new details have emerged. Here's a translation I wrote:

· Nomura was never involved in the creation of any Final Fantasy title as deeply he is right now, and he likes the fact he can take Final Fantasy Versus XIII where he wants it to be.

· Nomura says the PlayStation 3 hardware plays a huge part in the development of both projects, and by using it "all visions can come true". He says that visual-wise both Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII are superior from any former title in the franchise, and they are "close to perfection".

· As in any interview, Nomura was asked about the game's exclusivity. This time he mentioned that the Tokyo Game Show 2007 trailers had the writing "for PlayStation 3 ONLY". He says it's an advantage for one team to concentrate on one console, even if some fans are disappointed.

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Looking back at this really makes me laugh..

September 19, 2007 - Tokyo Game Show 2007
A CLOSED doors trailer screening by Square-Enix presents a "new" trailer for the people to see (those who were inside that theatre at least...)
Thanks Oba- Square-Enix!

September 28, 2007
http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/09/28/ffxiii-devs-share-trailer-talk

Nomura addressed the Versus XIII trailer, noting that the staff has at last managed to reach the image they were originally seeking. The trailer has two new characters, but he expects them to undergo some changes in later trailers. He does feel, however, that the main character design is representative of what we'll be seeing when the game shows its true colors next year.

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Next year huh? Okay, we shall patiently wait. The 7th gen of video games consoles "just" kicked in.

Jump Festa 2007
Yey ANOTHER closed theatre trailer has been shown. Thankfully, it leaks eventually.
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2008/0...rsus-xiii-jump-festa-2007-trailer-leaked.html

2008

June 11, 2008
Square-Enix announces that Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be present at their DKS3713 event, let the hyping continue...

June 19, 2008
Final Fantasy Versus XIII is NOT on hold, it's.....it's.....What ever it is at that moment,

"Reports that development for Final Fantasy Versus XIII is on hold are false. The truth of the situation is that when free, some staff from the Versus team have been helping with the XIII team on development of Final Fantasy XIII. Development for both titles is continuing as originally scheduled."

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Originally scheduled huh? 2016 then?

E3 2008

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=327004

August 2, 2008
A new trailer is shown at at their DKS3713 event, becomes an instant classic (because that's the only thing we will get from them in a long time)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGyVZRHZ2ow


August 3, 2008
A behind the scenes documentairy gets shown at the event with some details. The game gets reconfirmed as a PS3 exclusive.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/08/03/final-fantasy-xiii-details

In fact, the next sequence was a round table style discussion with Motomu Toriyama, Hajime Tabata and others, where they discussed elements of Final Fantasy XIII. The inclusion of Versus XIII was specifically done to highlight that the development on the game was real, as the team had read numerous rumors online that stated that the game didn't exist.

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September 8, 2008
Square-Enix confirms that Final Fantasy Versus XIII will be shown at the Tokyo Game Show (video-only, AGAIN)

October 9, 2008 - Tokyo Game Show 2008
A trailer is shown for the game, sadly it's the same one as at the DKS3713 event.

October 22, 2008
Some more details regarding some characters.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2008/10/22/new-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-details

2009

January 09, 2009
A teaser site for Final Fantasy Versus XIII opens. http://www.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/versus13/ (redirects now to: http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ff15/)

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March 25, 2009
The clothing designs for the characters are complete, progress is being made people!

E3 2009
ONLINE???? - Final Fantasy XIV gets revealed.
No Final Fantasy Versus XIII over here, once again.

October 21, 2009
Nomura says in the weekly Famitsu that he expects us to see non-test footage of this game next year at the earliest.

December 17, 2009
Final Fantasy XIII releases in Japan.

December 21, 2009
The Jump Festa "trailer" (it was actually a video of Noctis riding his car on a long deserted road during the whole vid) contained the following text
"Work in Progress. Revelation will come next time."


2010

February 17, 2010
Tetsuya Nomura states in Famitsu's weekly magazine that Final Fantasy Versus XIII may not be ready for a re-introduction at E3 2010 due to changes in the world map and other games having a bigger priority.

March 9, 2010
Final Fantasy XIII releases worldwide, still no Final Fantasy Versus XIII in sight.

May 18, 2010
Square-Enix CEO Yoichi Wada gets asked at a Q&A segment at an investors meeting by an attendee if Final Fantasy Versus XIII could become multiplatform. His reponse?

"We'll be looking into it internally until right before the formal announcement."

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Nobody cares and want the game just to release already.

E3 2010 - Versus what? Not here, what did you expect?

June 23, 2010
First in game screenshots debut in Famitsu weekly, Nomura hypes his game up.

August 9, 2010
Tetsuya Nomura shares some info on Twitter:

"Agito and Versus have different production styles and progress states, but they're both presently undergoing voice casting."

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He also states we shouldn't expect any information regarding this game at GamesCom 2010. He also can't share a lot of info because of Square-Enix's policy of promoting games in the order of their release.

August 26, 2010
Tetsuya Nomura says a bit of the game will be shown at the Tokyo Game Show 2010, it's part of a short trailer reel under the Fabula Nova Crystallis banner.

September 18, 2010 - Tokyo Game Show 2010
Time to wet your pants because Square-Enix officialy releases a Final Fantasy Versus XIII "gameplay trailer"
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRF_4Ewaxt4
24 seconds full of glorious gameplay for your puny eyes to behold!

September 21, 2010
Tetsuya Nomura promises that we will get a proper () look of the game at the Fabula Nova Crystallis event which will take place on 1/11/11
They are looking into allowing the general public to see and feel it's greatness.

September 22, 2010
Final Fantasy XIV for the PC is released, it's pretty bad.

October 18, 2010
Square-Enix is seeking Final Fantasy Versus XIII staff, they are looking for battle and level design planners who are experienced with HD consoles. Are they perhaps having difficulties with the development? Nah.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410576&highlight=ffvsxiii


December 13, 2010
The often hyped Fabula Nova Crystallis conference gets DELAYED and has a new name
It's now called the "Square Enix 1st Department Premier" and takes place january the 18th.

2011 - 5 year anniversary!

January 19, 2011
NOCTIS OUJI - The "Square Enix 1st Department Premier" trailer appears online, it's great and makes the wait even harder yet Nomura and his team are sort of delivering atm.
Trailer link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419154


January 25, 2011
Our savior Tetsuya Nomura tells Dengeki PlayStation that they shouldn't expect the game in 2011 (blasphemy!) because:

"they're trying to do a number of incredible things and the focus is on quality, they will need more time. He joked that because Duodecim Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy Type-0 and Final Fantasy XIII-2 are all due out this year, players should forget about Versus for the time being."

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Some more details about the game are revealed.
Link with the story: http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/01/25/latest-on-final-fantasy-versus-xiii
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419725


January 27, 2011
Direct feed trailer from that 1st Production thing is online.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419941


E3 2011 - Nomura keeps his promise and Final Fantasy Versus XIII wasn't shown yet once again!

July 13, 2011
Dengeki's Tetsuya Nomura interview contains lots of juicy info and also a clarification regarding the development of the game, I'm pretty sure I can say that we are now at the stage where almost everyone lost most if not all of their patience. Oh yeah and there is this:

So when will we get our next bit of Versus XIII info? Nomura said that the timing for the next reveal has been set, but he would not say when. For the next update, though, he said that they'd like to deliver it along with some good information.

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Happy waiting GAF.
GAF thread with details here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437072


September 8, 2011
Surprise! Final Fantasy Versus XIII won't be at the Tokyo Game Show 2011, have some FFXIII-2 instead.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=440181


September 9, 2011
Square-Enix renews the Final Fantasy Versus XIII trademark, it's alive!
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444257


September 11, 2011
Yoshinori Kitase claims that Final Fantasy may be at "100% development power"

At yesterday’s Fan Meeting, staff members Motomu Toriyama and Yoshinori Kitase were quizzed on a number of things FINAL FANTASY.

Kitase briefly commented on FINAL FANTASY Versus XIII, the only member of the Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation still shrouded in mystery. He says that “Type-0 and Versus XIII have of course advanced to 100% development power.” It should be noted, however that the team has used their know-how from developing FINAL FANTASY XIII in order to create XIII-2 with a much shorter development period, and as such, the reason why it will release ahead of time.

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GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444349


September 21, 2011
Just Tetsuya Nomura hyping his game up without material once again.

Nomura says that he recently did a walkthrough of the full world map. He also did a check on the game's dungeons and the side paths in the game's towns. He was impressed with how expansive everything is.

When Square Enix announced the development of its "Luminous" next generation engine, some very cruel people joked that maybe Versus would be updated to use it. Actually, the game does use the lightning technology from Luminous, Nomura reveals. However, the game also uses a game specific engine that's specialized for action.

With Versus, Nomura promises a Final Fantasy like you've never seen before.

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GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=445773


Tokyo Game Show 2011- Sorry

October 11, 2011
Final Fantasy Type-0 releases in Japan for the PSP, an English version never appeared...

December 15, 2011
Final Fantasy XIII-2 releases in Japan.

2012

January 18, 2012
Nomura shares some information about this long awaited game, with two interesting (but also comical) points regarding development and another public showing.

- Square Enix won't be holding an event ala last year's January press conference this year. However, Nomura said that he'd like to make some sort Versus related announcement/showing this year, although he can't say when or where.
- The next time we see Versus XIII, we will get a look at it being controlled on actual hardware.

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GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459290


E3 2012 - Nope.webm GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=473042

July 20, 2012
One of Kotaku's "sources" claims Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been cancelled, fans are on suicide watch.

One source tells Kotaku that Final Fantasy Versus XIII was officially cancelled within the last few weeks. The decision impacted morale at Square Enix and staff were reportedly saddened by the move.

Square Enix, this source added, has also decided to let Final Fantasy Versus XIII die quietly on the vine and fade away, instead of officially announcing its cancellation. This would likely be due to the fact a public acknowledgement of a Versus' cancellation could impact things like Square Enix's stock prices.

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GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483255

July 24, 2012
Even though Kagari had her doubts about the rumor people still needed an official confirmation, the honour was for our favorite CEO to break the news that the game is NOT cancelled (while hyping the game up à la Nomura)

"It seems someone is spreading a false rumor about Versus being canceled. Heh, just a few moments ago a regularly scheduled meeting for Versus ended. If you were to see the city etc. presented today, you wouldn't be able to stand from surprise, lol."

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GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483626


Tokyo Game Show 2012- uhhh

2013 - time flies by..

February 21, 2013 - Playstation Meeting

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- Insert Verendus' insider information (We all know what he said at the time)

March 16, 2013
Final Fantasy XIII Versus outfit designer lists game as Final Fantasy XV, the speculation continues.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=524676


April 17, 2013
Nomura claims the info ban on Final Fantasy Versus XIII will lift "soon"

Final Fantasy Versus XIII director Tetsuya Nomura was a special guest on the latest broadcast of Square Enix Radio where he was questioned about updates regarding the highly anticipated title.

ー When will new information regarding Final Fantasy Versus XIII be announced?

Nomura: Even within the company it’s a very delicate problem. The date when we can concretely lift the ban has been decided and we are preparing for that moment. Maybe the details as to why information couldn’t be released might be touched upon at the next information announcement. I’m sorry it’s already overdue, but please wait just a little more.

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Wait a little more? Okay, why not, we've been waiting for almost 7 years but whatever.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541593


June 11, 2013 - E3 2013
Final Fantasy XIII has been renamed to Final Fantasy XV and is going to be released on the PS4 and Xbox One.
GAF thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=582131
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3xKbPooKAo

August, 27 2013
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn releases for the PC and PS3, it's pretty good.

November 21, 2013
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII releases.


And still no Vers- XV...


Sooo... I tried to include as much relevant information as possible (without the occasional screenshot threads/articles) I used a lot of information from IGN, AdriaSang and GAF so all the credit goes to them.
I only decided to include information regarding the development of Final Fantasy Versus XIII (XV) because of all the vague information and "please wait a little bit longer" we got back then. The dates may or may not be accurate but it's just to give you a idea of how long this game is in development. Also I could have left some information out, I apologise for the mistakes I made in this post or the wrong information I gave, feel free to PM me if that's the case so that I can alter it. Please try to ignore grammatical errors (as hard as it may be) btw...

Jisgsaw said:

They could, I don't know... hire competent managers?
Review their developping process?

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I hope they do, but so far have proven unwilling.

Despera said:

Let's just remember that Square released the following FF titles in the last 4 years:

FFXIII
FFXIII-2
FFXIV
LR: FFXIII

That's 4 high profile FF entries releasing within 4 years. It's not unheard of for a game to be in development hell for a decade or so. Let's at least give Square credit for actually releasing these games in a timely manner.

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Two of these games are not high profile.
Square royally fucked up announcing Versus when they did. They are the running joke of game development.

Korigama said:

Takahashi already stated that the idea behind Xenoblade was for Monolith Soft to distance themselves from the style associated with Xenogears and Xenosaga, viewing the story-heavy approach over gameplay as a dead end. It doesn't seem likely that they would change their minds for X.

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Well fuck...

Ishida said:

Well fuck...

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Double fuck

SgtCobra said:

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You should post this on a blog for future reference.

This retrospective makes it look even more ridiculous.

All these keywords, "soon, wait a little more, next event, going smoothly, ... ".

It's past the state of a bad joke.

Bless you SgtCobra, bless you.

CTRL+F please, wait, longer

SolVanderlyn said:

Watch them surprise everyone with an FF7 remake announcement.

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The surprise, of course, will be that its for iOS/Android.

Seriously, why do you guys do this to yourselves? I was huge final fantasy fan thru the snes and ps2 days I even managed to trudge thru ffx but by that time sqaure was already a mere husk of its former self. I know it's hard but seriously it's way past time everyone moved on. Just think about the mental gymnastics you'll save yourself from when the game finally launches and you have to convince yourself that the game is actually good (like with ff13) because you've invested so much time and hope waiting for it.

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Big post incoming, please don't quote it all!!

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Great post. So many bait and switches made, so much BS holy shit. Nomura was all over the place with this game lol.

Final Fantasy 15 in 2016

Final Fantasy 7 Remake for PS5 in 2019 or 2020.

I'm callin' it!

How many generations of children have grown up with FF now being a more or less incompetent brand?

It's not even one generation at this point.. It's more like 2 or 3.

That timeline is amazing.

Might as well port it down and make it a launch title for Nintendo's new handheld as well...

BocoDragon said:

How many generations of children have grown up with FF now being a more or less incompetent brand?

It's not even one generation at this point.. It's more like 2 or 3.

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well depending on your definition of generation it's like one.

One of the reasons this doesn't upset me anymore is that I have plenty to do in FF14. I'm also really looking forward to the new Theatrhythm and KH2.5 so it's not like I won't have new things to play either.

You guys just need to chill.

I was in 7th grade when it was announced, now i'm on my second year of University. This is such bullshit, i don't know how the fuck they can't show SOMETHING. A bit of the overworld, walking through a city, some menus, some magic, some lore. we get NOTHING.

This is just bullshit, i wish i didn't like SE games so much, i'm really tired of supporting this company and it's incompetence.

Kagari said:

One of the reasons this doesn't upset me anymore is that I have plenty to do in FF14. I'm also really looking forward to the new Theatrhythm and KH2.5 so it's not like I won't have new things to play either.

You guys just need to chill.

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I love how Kingdom Hearts 2.5 is classified as "new". Stockholm Syndrome is a scary thing...

Vire said:

I love how Kingdom Hearts 2.5 is classified as "new". Stockholm Syndrome is a scary thing...

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I never played Final Mix so it's new to me.

Scum said:

Might as well port it down and make it a launch title for Nintendo's new handheld as well...

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But we all know it will be ported to smartphones and f2p.

Every event that goes by without an appearance for The Last Guardian and FF Versus - I always used to tell myself it'll show up at the next one surely.

I'm letting go now.. No more hopeful dreams about the future, I've come to terms that they are simply vaporware.

Kagari said:

One of the reasons this doesn't upset me anymore is that I have plenty to do in FF14. I'm also really looking forward to the new Theatrhythm and KH2.5 so it's not like I won't have new things to play either.

You guys just need to chill.

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I don't think its about wanting any game.

This particular game is such a bitch....fu FFXVersus...

DNAbro said:

well depending on your definition of generation it's like one.

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I guess the entire FF series came out during the millennial generation... But I was thinking of it this way: if you were 10 when FFX came out, you'd grow up to be an adult who never saw a great FF in his childhood again. But then when you turned 18, another 10 year old at that time would go on to grow up to adulthood without seeing a great FF.

When I was a kid, great FFs came out every 2 years. It could sustain me as a fan. Today's kids cannot be held captive by the FF brand because by the time each entry comes out, they will have grown up and moved on to other things...

lets just look at the good side, this just means they are focused on making the game right now, and arent waisting their time on making a trailer to show on the other side of the world

i just jope at TGS or even Gamescom? they show something, maybe a live gameplay demo

HeelPower said:

I don't think its about wanting any game.

This particular game is such a bitch....fu FFXVersus...

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That's why you should stop expecting it and just be happy when it does finally show up.

Kagari said:

One of the reasons this doesn't upset me anymore is that I have plenty to do in FF14. I'm also really looking forward to the new Theatrhythm and KH2.5 so it's not like I won't have new things to play either.

You guys just need to chill.

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ehh I can wait, but of course we all want something new. 2.5 will be good and kind of interested in Theatrhythm but need new stuff. Don't like MMOs.

Well thanks to Square Enix mess ups, Atlus has taken their place as my favorite JRPG developer. P5 will tide me over on JRPGs for awhile.

Kagari said:

That's why you should stop expecting it and just be happy when it does finally show up.

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I think I need a psychiatrist.

I am developing a new OCD-esque disorder because of this game <_<

ZenTzen said:

lets just look at the good side, this just means they are focused on making the game right now, and arent waisting their time on making a trailer to show on the other side of the world

i just jope at TGS or even Gamescom? they show something, maybe a live gameplay demo

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And Square Enix wonders why their sales are dwindling across the sea. No one gives a shit about TGS.. Publications don't even bother sending out journalists anymore for the event.

HeelPower said:

I think I need a psychiatrist.

I am developing a new OCD-esque disorder because of this game <_<

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I think you need to play other games.

Vire said:

And Square Enix wonders why their sales are dwindling across the sea. No one gives a shit about TGS.. Publications don't even bother sending out journalists anymore for the event.

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That's because TGS has seemingly been crap for a while now.

Son Of D said:

Maybe TGS 2016.

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More like TGS 2017

FluxWaveZ said:

That's because TGS has seemingly been crap for a while now.

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So why on earth is E3 not the ideal time to show your game? It's just a fucking lie, just tell me the truth.

They could probably get away with 30 seconds of new footage too. Well, maybe a minute. Two different battle scenes, some cutscene dialogue, and a brief look at a new area. That's really all they would need to do, so I would hope the game isn't in such a state where they can't even show that.

I have completely lost interest in this game. Square-enix are incompetent seems like the only games they can shit out these days are crappy ios ports.

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So why on earth is E3 not the ideal time to show your game? It's just a fucking lie, just tell me the truth.

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Well, just guessing here. But has any PS4 game sold over 2 million yet? They need XV to sell 6 million +. They probably have to wait for the install base to grow.

And the next time they show the game, I'd like a release date. I don't really need to see tons of trailers of it. I'm already sold on it. Just need to know when it's ready. Guess it's not ready yet.

They also seem to hold Deus Ex Universe up as a huge title coming up. That will probably show up at E3, among other huge games.

Kagari said:

I think you need to play other games.

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I do I really try to.

Eventhough I am a big witcher fan and yesterday's trailer was amazing, reading about no FFXV today still got to me.

It sucks and I need to forget this game.

I didn't expect news regarding FFXV until at least TGS anyway. It's probably not close enough for them to show it anyway.

Square-Enix no longer has the capacity to make this game.

We have to accept it.

Wolves Evolve said:

Square-Enix no longer has the capacity to make this game.

We have to accept it.

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Well that's not true. I'm surprised we're still seeing stuff like this on pg. 28 :/

McKeeverFever said:

I have completely lost interest in this game. Square-enix are incompetent seems like the only games they can shit out these days are crappy ios ports.

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Ya know, the funny thing about posts like this, IF we see more the game, you'll completely go 180 on the game. The thirst will be real IF this game gets real. IF.

shawnhi said:

oh well, maybe X will build off of the success of Xenoblade and have a story more in the scale of Xenogears/Xenosaga, and I'll get my epic JRPG fix in the next 3-4 years there instead.

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It's either that or we get translated Kiseki games from XSEED. You have played Trails in the Sky, right?

Excellent post, SgtCobra. Looking at all the false hope and empty promises in one sitting really cast's SE's problems with the game--and FF in general--into sharp relief.