googleplex
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I'm seriously curious as to what kind of mental gymnastics will be involved when Bernie's supporters try to defend this.
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Sanders campaign requests removal of 2 DNC members, threatens to halt convention
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You know what, it doesn't really matter how the DNC responds to this, they're going to riot no matter what happens at this point. Fuck em.
I know, I'm just in utter disbelief. I mean sure, Bernie might be ignorant on some things, and we can debate till the night falls and whatever else, but it felt all in good politics and rigor. I felt he was trying to have a positive message. This is just, a level of low I'd never expect.
The Technomancer
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Eh. I like Hillary a whole lot, but what "left" means isn't exactly clearly defined. I expect her to be a lot more left than her detractors think on things like education and social justice issues, but she's probably not going to be the most liberal economic figure
The Nevada clusterfuck was pretty much the result of a failed Cruz-esque gambit to grab more delegates.
boiled goose
good with gravy
That i agree with!
It's an important difference. Call it petty, unnecessary, sore loser. Cant disagree. But Trump esque is not accurate.
TheLostBigBoss
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Exactly. He's already made that bed. Hire a lot of security and let the shit hit the fan. Maybe the PR damage is fixed by the election, maybe not but this is he path Sanders has chosen and further capitulation will not help short of giving him the nomination.
Yup. The DNC messed up letting him run.
Clockwork5
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I have been one saying that Bernie was using his support to position for more power within the party (as a relative newcomer to the Ds). I thought he was taking the fight to the established party all the way to the convention in order to keep his base rallied and use it as a platform. Now I'm kinda confused as to his end game. He is just burning bridges at this point.
How strange, yet interesting to watch.
How strange, yet interesting to watch.
ShironRedshift
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Because he said some mean things about him back in the 90's when he tried pulling a stunt not unlike this, and apparently seems to hold quite the grudge over that. Unfortunately, it seems Donald Trump isn't the only candidate with very thin skin and an ego that's much too large.
So disappointed in myself for ever supporting Sanders'. Very unfortunate the way this had all turned out.
True. I was more just thinking how those people were probably right. Before he went to all out shit.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh also fuck off Bernie with this bizarre feud with Barney Frank, a figure who on paper is one of the staunchest ideological allies you can find in this fucking country
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Someone stuck in the past wants to create 1969 all over again?
Good. Sanders, his campaign, and his supporters should do everything in their power to fight and disrupt the DNC and the Hillary campaign.
Your country needs a political revolution. It would be a poor revolution if they just gave up.
Even if it won't change the result, these things have impacts that last into future elections and generations. i.e. "What we do in life echoes in eternity".
Your country needs a political revolution. It would be a poor revolution if they just gave up.
Even if it won't change the result, these things have impacts that last into future elections and generations. i.e. "What we do in life echoes in eternity".
Byakuya769
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Same here. Over his bullshit.
It's amazing how a year can change someone's opinion. I went from liking Bernie Sanders, to being indifferent, to now just wishing he would go away and stop.
At this point I really feel Barney Frank's 1991 assessment of Sanders was 100% correct.
At this point I really feel Barney Frank's 1991 assessment of Sanders was 100% correct.
"His holier-than-thou attitude - saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone - really undercuts his effectiveness"
"To him, anybody who disagrees with him is a crook; there are no honest disagreements with people. Bernie's view of the world is that the great majority of people agree with him on all the issues and the only reason he does not win is that the Congress is crooked"
"To him, anybody who disagrees with him is a crook; there are no honest disagreements with people. Bernie's view of the world is that the great majority of people agree with him on all the issues and the only reason he does not win is that the Congress is crooked"
cartoon_soldier
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Contrary to popular belief US is doing pretty all right.
Jawbreaker
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If he does it's because Hillary isn't inspiring people to vote for her, not because of Sanders.
Yeah, destruction of the one legitimate path to progressive legislation when the opponent is an overt fascist calling for white supremacy and isolationism is just so damn fascinating, right?
Dubbedinenglish
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I am now waiting for Frank so spit unabated 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 at Sanders
googleplex
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When Barney-fucking-Frank fails you progressive purity test, Then you know you've lost your way.
TheLostBigBoss
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I would actually say that this is worse because this is coming from a person who should understand that his actions have repercussions due to being a politician for many years. Bernie is a classic "I want to be right rather than get it right" type of person.
I said this earlier today.
BreezyLimbo
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Eh, that was rhetoric being spewed by Cruz and Kasich though, hoping for a brokered convention. Trump on the other hand was threatening to go 3rd party if he wasn't candidate(Which is in line with threatening to halt the convention if Sanders doesn't get his demands, IMO).
Talk to me about being all right when you have things like Universal Healthcare that the rest of us enjoy.
Souldriver
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"Your country needs a revolution."
Fuck right off with that shit. Easy for you to say "let the streets burn in that other country that's not mine". I'm not even American, and your post angers me.
LUFTRAUSER
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Yep, it'll ensure that the DNC never lets another democratic socialist like Sanders get a platform for a generation or two.
So much for a revolution.
Claude Augario
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What a goddamn manchild he turned out to be.
Dubbedinenglish
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He's an international citizen through Google translate....aka not someone of coherent thought. Pay no mind.
Byakuya769
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Is Bernie Sanders basically Ted Cruz with a cult of (projected) personality?
The Democratic Party isn't fighting itself. They let a supposed independent ally run and he is trying to start a violent revolution to placate his own ego. Spinning this as a problem with the party is exactly the kind of cover that has let this jackass get as far as he has.
Cesare Borgia
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He's not going to get it. BUT I'd have no problem replacing Frank if Sanders replaces Cornell West.
A Link to the Past
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Talk to me about being all right when a political revolution occurs and the worst off among us suffer the most as a result.
Cannot wait for Frank to go HAM and spit that fire.
Now you see why he is the Chair.
How is disrupting the DNC supposed to get us universal healthcare? Please outline the steps.
Why does a revolution need to be violent in your mind? Some of the greatest political revolutions in history have been non-violent.
Sanders is pushing for a political revolution where it's not about establishment politics and down tickets and corporate interests, but empowering the individual voter to push the agenda of the representative. That goes past party lines.
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