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Albert Penello downplays XBO/PS4 difference in Tomb Raider; "we just shipped"
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Ban Puncher
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Blast Processing 2.0
The "XBone cost $100 more because of kinect" comment is the calling card of a lazy Microsoft fanboy considering most gamers don't want Kinect.
Raitosaito
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Microsoft should have taken marketing from the Wii era of Nintendo. If Kinect is the focus then don't speak messages about power. Ignore it and focus on that product.
Microsoft has no clear message right now.
Microsoft has no clear message right now.
Nymphae
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For god's sake man just shut the fuck up. This phrasing is hilarious, COULD be (a lot of) reasons it COULD be true. I don't expect you to flat out say you have the inferior version, but don't try and confuse the matter, and don't try and brush it off by saying "things will get better". Yeah, they do, when I play them on PS4. Funny how they don't need the time Xbox seems to require to bring me next gen fidelity.
gaming_noob
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He seems frustrated. I think if we continue to voice our concerns/critisms they'll do a better job on Xbox1440.
we actually reset an imaginary clock every time their PR speaks nonsense
If only they had built a box that was at least comparable to the PS4, the Xbox One would have been the ultimate choice even at a higher price. If the power difference was in reality let say, 10% and under, then yes this quote would make sense and be accurate and I would own an Xbox One right now. 40-50% difference? They can go eff off. They purposely cheaped out and will pay for it an entire generation.
Ugh, all the "thanks for clearing the air, Albert!", "boom!", etc posts that followed all of these quotes were just... ugh.
Serious question: how come he knows so much about what's going on behind the scenes with respect to resolutions, feamerate and power, but supposedly did not know Call of Duty's resolution right before launch?
phosphor112
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Well... that ban was quick.
Anyway, I'm tired of seeing this claim.
It's bullshit. It's absolute bullshit.
The 100 dollars ISN'T for the Kinect.
Think about it. If the Kinect was only 100 bucks, you still have a 400 dollar machine that is noticeably weaker than the PS4.
Arrogant Bastard
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For the thousandth time, no. Can you not see the difference between lying about your product and downplaying the weakness? Read what Yoshi wrote.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Oh wow. Even amongst the hard xbox fold, this must put a massive dent in his credibility. Double the framerate is not a "Slight difference"
symmetrical
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Um yeah this.
I think the more he talks the more people see through his bullshit.
Now it's just ridiculous the stuff that guy says.
It has been 0 days without BS from Microsoft PR
TheOctodad
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Why? Did you break the real one you had last year during E3?
SpecDotSign
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This guy. It's as if the developers haven't had a say in which console they're saying has the graphical advantage. But maybe you're right. We'll just have to wait and see which of the two has better optimized games in a few years.
gigantor21
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What else is MS going to do when they keep missing out on the latter? Commit seppuku?
They're stuck with the specs they have, and they're not going to win the power debate. No amount of PR obfuscation is going to magically double TR's frame rate or increase COD and Battlefield's resolution.
Err... isn't Mr Panello's logic flawed a bit, I mean the experience doesn't change buying the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of multiplat games like Tomb Raider either, which begs the question why upgrade from PS3 --> PS4 or Xbox 360 --> Xbox One at all.
Which begs the question, are MS justifying the extra money for Kinect, looking at sales difference between PS4 and XB1, the answer is "not right now" if ever. Never helps that they keep bringing attention to where they're unquestionably weaker, instead of highlighting Kinect exclusive features for their own games like Nintendo did on the Wii for example.
Which begs the question, are MS justifying the extra money for Kinect, looking at sales difference between PS4 and XB1, the answer is "not right now" if ever. Never helps that they keep bringing attention to where they're unquestionably weaker, instead of highlighting Kinect exclusive features for their own games like Nintendo did on the Wii for example.
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enanogrande
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Jesus Christ... It's one thing to think that, but the way he said it to the interviewer just sounds like he's desperate or something.
Coming to GAF was definitely the worst idea he/his superiors had.
Coming to GAF was definitely the worst idea he/his superiors had.
Melchettsmoustache
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In fairness, he has to suggest this otherwise he may as well concede that their machine is over priced in comparison to a more powerful system. As an MS exec he would have been better not mentioning this. He will get grief either way however sometimes it's better for people to suspect your an idiot than open your mouth and prove it.
Nightengale
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Idol worship is far too common and prevalent in practically any community.
If not for the continued proof-in-the-pudding that Albert has been full of bollocks or our Bishbans, the Albert Penello fanclub will continue to lick the grounds he walk on.
Oh don't worry there will always be some. Hilarious some here were thanking Penello for lying to them.
They are stuck with the specs they have because they were fucking stupid and over exaggerated the popularity of Kinect. As far as I'm concerned, they can cop the consequences on the nose for the rest of this gen.
enanogrande
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Dude... just no xD
If he talked any more bull, it would be bull.
Hexa
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PS4 has voice commands too though. I haven't used them, but in a stream a guy paused it, and then kept accidentally pausing it with them when he was complaining about it (before he even knew voice commands were in the game) and then when he couldn't figure out how to show the map he said "show map" eventually and it just popped up. Other random stuff kept popping up too since he was talking to viewers while playing so he turned them off, but if you're playing alone I don't really see what could be better about the XBone Kinect version.
How many times have you had to replace the damned button then? lol
While I agree that Ryse probably had the best eye candy so far, the more the man opens his mouth the worse it gets. Pick your battles man. I know going into buying both systems that 98% of my multiplats would be bought on ps4. Since they are losing on the technical front I bet they are G'ing up devs as we speak for exclusive of timed exclusive content. I hate that kind of shit but I'm not sure what other ways they can sway the decisions of multi console owners to buy on their system. PS4's better IQ/performance and vita remote play far exceed the superior audio mic codec/multi-player experience of Xbl for me.
3rdamention
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I miss Albert! Its a shame he hasn't posted since the day after the Xbox One launched, that was his last post. He lurks every morning, but will not grace us with his presence any longer. Its a shame.
This was one of my favorite posts from him. Really opened my eyes to the fact that there is no difference, and people cannot tell the difference, between native and upscaled resolution. I was kinda shocked he didn't educate us about framerate as well, and how those differences arent discernible either.
This was one of my favorite posts from him. Really opened my eyes to the fact that there is no difference, and people cannot tell the difference, between native and upscaled resolution. I was kinda shocked he didn't educate us about framerate as well, and how those differences arent discernible either.
Albert Penello said:
BumblebeeCody
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And what's funny, people in my situation who own an Xbox One are calling BS. Fair enough the Kinect does add money to the overall cost of the console but that doesn't justify it being there or that it's right.
Xbox: Snap bullshit detector.
It is obvious..unless you are blind.
flatearthpandas
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I think this was the most important part of the statement. The only part not bolded.
Uno Venova
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They knew according cboat, along with the resolution for titanfall, but decided to feign ignorance until the games were on shelves.
Slappers Only
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Tell us how Kinect justifies the performance difference.
Albert Penello is Factully incorret:
NBA 2k14: Better AA on PS4
CoD: 1080p vs. 720p
BF4: 900p vs. 720p
AC4: 1080p +better AA vs. 900p
NFS: Missing effects on XB1.
If he wasn't just talking about launch games, we also have Tomb Raider.
So another Albert Penello comment to downplay the differences is factually incorrect. Keep going Albert...
NBA 2k14: Better AA on PS4
CoD: 1080p vs. 720p
BF4: 900p vs. 720p
AC4: 1080p +better AA vs. 900p
NFS: Missing effects on XB1.
If he wasn't just talking about launch games, we also have Tomb Raider.
So another Albert Penello comment to downplay the differences is factually incorrect. Keep going Albert...
Dragonborn
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KZSF is the best looking next gen game and it's 1080p/60FPS most of the time. Ryse is pretty but it's also 900p/30fps
COD on PS4 has a higher resolution and goes over 60 fps.
Battlefield 4 on PS4 has a better framerate and a higher resolution than the Xbox One version.
It wouldn't be wrong to say that most of them are equal, but he's ignoring that the games that arent identical have huge graphical differences. Plus there's the crushed blacks on Xbox ...
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