Yeah, I think he might tell the poster that he is "pretty much of an asshole".
Or more likely that he is "stupid, full'a shit and fuckin' nuts."
He would definitely "obstruct" to the posters defence of 4chan.
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Yeah, I think he might tell the poster that he is "pretty much of an asshole".
Or more likely that he is "stupid, full'a shit and fuckin' nuts."
He would definitely "obstruct" to the posters defence of 4chan.
rainking187
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This is the second thread about this topic and they both got derailed by shitposts.
harriet the spy
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As he should.
Psssh...nothin personnel...nigger...
A Link to the Past
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There are two options for this post.
Option one is that you believe that Kurt Eichenwald was sent into a seizure because a gif was sent to him. This option means you didn't read the thread, even its title.
Option two is that you are brazenly apathetic to a willful, deliberate attack, one where the goal was the person to go into a seizure and die, using a seizure-inducing animation. This option means that... well, you're brazenly apathetic.
Neither seem like very good options TBH
lol suddenly reminded of another thread of gaf.
whatever culture they want.
you are killing me....kid
Intheflorsh
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Yes, it's all just an incredible and misfortune coincidence that this "culture" happened to develop parallel to the rise of boards like /pol/. You are full of rich, creamy shit if you actually believe this, not that I believe you do.
Also, lol at acting like /v/ is somehow better than the rest of 4chan. I guess you weren't around during gamergate.
unpopularblargh
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You know what I wish for? For idiots on the internet to stop misusing quotes excluded from context by famous dead people. Especially Carlin and Hicks. Just stop.
If they don't mean it, why even use it ?
Messofanego
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Christ, what the fuck at this normalisation of racism and bigotry.
I guess it's as he said: "No, they do it as a joke. It is part of their culture, and yeah it's odd, but that's how it is." It's probably better not to try to understand these kind of people.
But he is right about one thing: Reddit is a terrible place as well. For me, it's just the other side of the coin.
Please tell me there isn't a defense force for attempted murder.....
RedAssedApe
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Dude needs to Have an example made out of him. This kind of shit isn't ok.
Isn't gamergate banned from being talked about at /v/? I may be wrong, but if so that seems like a pro, not a con.
It was eventually. But a lot of the shit still started there.
Primethius
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Do you think that when laws are written, they contemplate every single scenario by which a crime can be perpetrated and if it's not explicitly laid out, the crime cannot occur?
What the guy did here pretty much meets the general requirements for criminal assault.
Permanently A
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1.21Gigawatts
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Can this count as assault or even attempted murder?
I mean, he even said "lets see if he dies".
I mean, he even said "lets see if he dies".
sugarhigh4242
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I don't think its a good legal precedent to apply psychical assault standards to internet harassment. Which is not to defend internet harassment at all.
Why the fuck not? People are harassed daily online and in this case a person suffered physically from that harassment. We need to crack down on this shit and this is the most obvious and open and shut case I've ever seen.
A Link to the Past
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Did you read the article? The defendant is charged for willfully inducing a seizure with the intent to cause physical harm. The notion that inducing seizures is "Internet harassment" is a complete farce. It is physical violence, and this precedence is awesome.
An image designed to induce seizures could not possibly be considered "speech."
excelsiorlef
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Given your past comments when Kurt first got attacked I am not surprised you'd say this.
This was an attack designed to cause him bodily harm. It was wilful and intentional.That is well documented.
It is no different than anthrax in a letter. It is no different than purposely putting peanuts in the food of someone who is allergic to them with the intent of causing harm.
ClosingADoor
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If it was unintentional, sure, it would be bad to charge someone for this. But the guy knew and set out to cause harm. So he deserves punishment for that action.
A Link to the Past
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sugarhigh4242 said:
sugarhigh4242 said:
Amazing how on the same page in that thread, sugarhigh went from "I don't support these people" and "it's not funny" to "I support the person who assaulted him" and "it was pretty funny."
Question then, had this seizure killed the man, then in your opinion, the man that sent him the image with the intent of killing him (which he admitted to others on twitter) should not face murder charges?
What would the death be ruled as then? Accidental? Natural causes?
this is fucking gross
StrikeNinja24
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I made the rookie mistake of reading the comments.
There's now a defense force for everything.
There's now a defense force for everything.
"It's not bad if it's done online"
UpDownLeftRight
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Ironic, considering how much better the internet would be without people like you.
Lonewolf_92
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On the subject, according to Wikipedia, Cyberstalking sentences can range from 18 months in prison and a $10,000 fine for a fourth-degree charge to ten years in prison and a $150,000 fine for a second-degree charge. So lets hope it's a high level charge.
I'm always surprised people are still defending 4chan. I get it, even back in my day (what, more than 15 years ago?) 4chan was popular among high schoolers. To them, it felt like this cool underground thing where you could go for some 'edgy' comedy, a real insider internet nerd thing. A boy's club. That kind of thing can be attractive when you're young and still developing your personality, just like how you can get into obscure cult movies or bands to form a unique personality. Everyone needs to identify with some community outside of the mainstream.
But, even if you were part of that crowd when you were younger, you need to be able to look back on it and admit it was always full of shit. It's a bunch of kids misbehaving from behind the safety of a screen in their own little nerdy corner of the internet. Some people, even after all these years, still identify way too much with that shit. At its best, 4chan is full of people repeating the same old lame jokes at each other. At its worst, it's sexist, racist and people mistakenly feeling good about being a part of the 'cool crowd' on the internet.
It's never been cool, it's never been funny. It's a cesspool. There's nothing good about it, it's a bunch of people acting like idiots in their insular little anonymous community, and acting like they're somehow the John Wayne's of the internet instead of a bunch of deluded neckbeards.
The fact that they're actually comparing themselves to someone like George Carlin is hilarious to me. You're not nearly at his level, kids.
But, even if you were part of that crowd when you were younger, you need to be able to look back on it and admit it was always full of shit. It's a bunch of kids misbehaving from behind the safety of a screen in their own little nerdy corner of the internet. Some people, even after all these years, still identify way too much with that shit. At its best, 4chan is full of people repeating the same old lame jokes at each other. At its worst, it's sexist, racist and people mistakenly feeling good about being a part of the 'cool crowd' on the internet.
It's never been cool, it's never been funny. It's a cesspool. There's nothing good about it, it's a bunch of people acting like idiots in their insular little anonymous community, and acting like they're somehow the John Wayne's of the internet instead of a bunch of deluded neckbeards.
The fact that they're actually comparing themselves to someone like George Carlin is hilarious to me. You're not nearly at his level, kids.
A Link to the Past
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I can only hope that he faces attempted murder charges, though that may be a bridge too far for the prosecution. I'd hate for him to avoid justice because they took a gamble.
TarpitCarnivore
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I'm going back and forth between wanting this to be an example case, but also realizing it could set a bad precedent if too general.
excelsiorlef
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Dude there's nothing general about this...
Like for god sakes this was a targeted attack. The they have documented proof of intent to injure/kill.
The internet is real life and the sooner we treat like that, the better off we'll all be.
Reverend Funk
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How bout if you willfully attempt to kill someone you are charged with attempted murder? Is there anything unreasonable about that?
Bobby Roberts
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A lot of people's conceptions regarding Carlin are undoubtedly colored by the fact something like 50% of what you read about him online is libertarian horseshit incorrectly attributed him for over a decade straight.
Same thing happened to Morgan Freeman for a few years there.
Definitely, but I don't see a jury voting to convict for attempted murder over pictures. People in general just haven't caught up to the times in that regard.
how do you see this precedent being taken too far? sending someone who is allergic to cats a cat gif isn't going to get you jailed.
jack_package_200
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Its the level of discourse thats sadly expected from him and others like him.
Its disgusting and sad.
What constitutes too general, though? Do you mean in terms of services locking down the kind of content and comments people can make?
Reverend Funk
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How bout his words where he admits his intent?
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