IIrc Rocksteady has close to 100 employees which is a small number for a huge game like AK. My guess is that they didn't have the resources to develop a PC port alongside the console versions or it was a low priority for them so WB decided to outsource it to some cheap D-tier developer
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Batman: Arkham Knight On PC Is Not Very Good [UP: WB suspends future sales until fix]
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IIrc Rocksteady has close to 100 employees which is a small number for a huge game like AK. My guess is that they didn't have the resources to develop a PC port alongside the console versions or it was a low priority for them so WB decided to outsource it to some cheap D-tier developer
Angry Fork
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Some of the reactions here are intense hyperbole imo. People throw around words like atrocious and terrible way too easily. There are varying degrees of PC ports, the options aren't just perfection and the worst thing ever. Bad PC ports are ones like deadly premonition which is almost unplayable at times. This is something in the middle, not even.
Applesauce
Boom! Bitch-slapped!
Yeah this is probably the best route, no sense in playing a game I know runs like shit until it gets fixed, if it gets fixed. I still need to finish Fallout 3 anyways.
BoxManLocke
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Was on the fence until recently, but after today that free Nvidia code went straight to Ebay.
Shit port, canceled CE and 2 weeks late LE. Fuck ups everywhere, very surprising for such a high-profile release.
Shit port, canceled CE and 2 weeks late LE. Fuck ups everywhere, very surprising for such a high-profile release.
Glitchesarecool
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Everyone's still ok! Well Johnny V might have someone else running his Twitter now, but no bridges were burned.
I don't think anyone can give you a great answer to that unless we could take a look at the code and see for ourselves what's causing these issues.
But the fact that we didn't get a "oh whoops, we accidentally put an old build up on Steam, here's the correct one" probably means it's not a trivial issue and there's something decently involved that's going on
Exactly. Even the Titan X is only 12GB. It's a miracle a 980ti with only 6GB can come close to a PS4, even with all those effects turned off.
Cerny is a god.
kenjigreat
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yes
RibbedHero
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Cheers buddy.
Revolutionary
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I never said it was a locked 60, I think you're confusing my posts for another.
Ah so you have a 970! That explains it. Seriously though, if you think that 970 is going to serve you well until this time next year then I have some news for you. I had a 970 for ONE day before I returned it because I knew that 3.5 thing would be an issue, as has been proven today.
PC gamers are very vocal. Especially when they feel they've been cheated in favor of consoles. And the people in the OT are actually playing the game..
I have two GTX 980s.
Ninja Scooter
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The future, Conan?
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
I got douche chills from this post
Obliterator
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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=169567991
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Some GAFers having no issues so far.
Myself I'm getting PS4 version since I have AMD card haha
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Some GAFers having no issues so far.
Myself I'm getting PS4 version since I have AMD card haha
You do realize that even people with Titan's are having massive issues as well? You're trying to turn this into a "I was right about the 970!" party when in all actuality it's a "this is a really fucking shitty port" situation.
Spring-Loaded
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Bruh, people couldn't play the game for hours after all files inexplicably being deleted, crashes, single digit framerates, and more. Some people, a few, haven't had catastrophic problems. If that means it's not atrocious, well then this launch has been just fine
baphomet
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Except it hasn't. I'm playing this perfectly fine between 45-110fps maxed out with a 970.
kenjigreat
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You can have 4-way SLI Titan X and you'll still have less AO and rain than the PS4.
No it's atrocious. It's like an incomplete build. Missing graphical effects is the least of it's problems, but yea it's missing graphical effects. In addition to the stuttering occurring on almost everyone's set up. The Memory leaks, the inconsistent frame-rate, the fact that you have to go into the ini. files to unlock the frame rate. Not to mention this is a fucking pack in for Nvidia's flagship cards.
What was Deadly Premonition or DS missing that the console versions had?
Revolutionary
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Lol.
I responded to one dude that said that the console versions have a better experience due to two graphical effects missing, I acknowledge that it's a disappointing port, and that's me being a defense force. Alright dude.
A regular Titan? Not surprised. That card has aged horribly. I should know, I had an SC one prior to the 970. The Witcher 3 showed me I needed to upgrade, the 970 showed it wasn't up to snuff, and the 980 did.
Alright well I stand corrected. The vast majority of complaints I saw over the past 24 hours were from 970 owners.
Again, I want to reiterate that I do think it's a disappointing port. But people saying it is inherently worse than the console versions or worse than the Saints Row 2 PC port need to sit down and chill out.
Inferno313
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Seems like the port has treated me better than most... It's *mostly* playable for me. But super inconsistent. Running between 40-60 with major fluctuations. I have everything on high with Gameworks on for everything except the smoke. Mostly because it doesn't seem to impact performance.
It seems like the biggest problem is with the way the engine streams. When I'm indoors or staying in the same area for a fight it hangs at or near 60. It's when I'm driving or gliding, no matter what the settings are, that it drops closer to 40.
It seems like the biggest problem is with the way the engine streams. When I'm indoors or staying in the same area for a fight it hangs at or near 60. It's when I'm driving or gliding, no matter what the settings are, that it drops closer to 40.
But this is a major release and this isn't really acceptable at launch. So of course tons of people will be angry.
rootbeerafloat
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Preordered on GMG and redeemed my code last night to preload. What a fucking joke. I was about to buy a 980 for this, too. How the fuck does this happen?
Do the console versions also grind to a halt by literally dropping to 1 fps every few seconds while driving the Batmobile?
What. This is easily deserving of the words "atrocious" and "terrible".
Obliterator
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You have done nothing from the beginning but basically down play every post in this thread about various things unless it serves your own made up narrative.
Game doesn't run smooth? Get a 980ti!!! (I have one. Its not smooth.)
Game doesn't run well? You must have a 970! It sucks! (Card is above the recommended specs)
Listen, I'm sure your a great dude or gal, and a solid poster. But your totally off base in this thread. The PC port is shit
WB still hasn't fixed MK10. I wouldn't hold my breath.
I can't believe Iron Galaxy was given 8 weeks to port the PC version according to reddit and Steam db https://steamdb.info/app/208650/subs/
balladofwindfishes
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My 970 came with this game for free...
You don't generally pack in games that won't even run right on the card you're buying lol
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Funniest thing? I'm going to play Halo: Master Chief Collection tonight, since Batman PC is broken. Irony.
No way. No chance in hell unless something catastrophic happened and they had to call in help and Iron Galaxy was willing to give it their best shot. If that's true than holy shit, I wonder how bad it was before they got to it.
Angry Fork
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Fair enough, people who've gone through that should definitely be upset. But people raging at something like a 30fps cap that you can unlock in a file is a bit much. Yes it shouldn't be capped and people shouldn't have to do that, but it takes 30 seconds.
The PC version should be better than consoles, and missing graphical effects in comparison should be inexcusable, but I wouldn't tell people not to play it just because of that.
The performance issues/framerate dips while gliding people are getting are the worst thing to me and need to be fixed.
kenjigreat
Banned
Cue the Conspiracy theories.
EatinOlives
Member
A lot of people can't even launch the game because of the DRM.
Please tell me how a game that literally can't function isn't as bad as the "almost-unplayable" Deadly Premonition.
And that's in addition to the rest of the stuff mentioned. Absolutely atrocious.
As I pointed out earlier I can't even launch a game I spent 53 bucks on, and I have no idea why. But ok.
This port is almost unplayable at times more frequent than even Deadly Premonition, so....
demosthenes
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780 overclocked, i5-4670k overclocked and a SSD.
Capped it at 30fps, turned all the special stuff on and haven't had issues in the first hour. Meh, it's not perfect but it's running at 1080p and I can play the game. I only paid $36, so I'm not furious, still wish it was better.
Capped it at 30fps, turned all the special stuff on and haven't had issues in the first hour. Meh, it's not perfect but it's running at 1080p and I can play the game. I only paid $36, so I'm not furious, still wish it was better.
It's unfortunate we'll probably never get the full story of what went wrong here. I'm curious whether Rocksteady ever had plans to do the PC version themselves. The game went through an 8 month delay presumably with some major development challenges to go along with that. I wonder if at some point Rocksteady thought if they had to get the game out by June they didn't have the time to work on a PC version and pawned it off to someone else while they put all their effort into completing the console versions; which seems to have worked out very well for the PS4 version.
Still, it's kind of amazing that WB/Rocksteady didn't seem to bother to do any proper QA or oversight on what Iron Galaxy was doing with the PC version. Even when Steam refunds got announced, it seems like no one seemed to care that this could potentially hurt all their preorder sales. It's also odd that they didn't just opt to delay the PC version by a month as they did with prior PC releases to at least try to ship it out in a somewhat respectable manner. Sounds like the higher ups were completely oblivious, didn't care, or perhaps a bit of both.
Still, it's kind of amazing that WB/Rocksteady didn't seem to bother to do any proper QA or oversight on what Iron Galaxy was doing with the PC version. Even when Steam refunds got announced, it seems like no one seemed to care that this could potentially hurt all their preorder sales. It's also odd that they didn't just opt to delay the PC version by a month as they did with prior PC releases to at least try to ship it out in a somewhat respectable manner. Sounds like the higher ups were completely oblivious, didn't care, or perhaps a bit of both.
Not at all, I'm not a fan of this series or the developer but I don't think the exclusion of a barely noticeable graphical effect is anything worth getting up in arms over. The performance and DRM issues sound inexcusable, however.
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Yep. I got sucked in by the 40% off deal with no sales tax at GMG, but I wish I didn't.
All I can do now is hope that one day it gets fixed. I'm certainly not playing it until then. Sucks, man.
Maybe not those specific items, but I immediately noticed how flat the game's lighting looked. The lack of AO is very apparent. The AO that does exist seems to be buggy and flickers like crazy. It's fucking ugly and noticeable.
AO especially good AO like the kinda Nvidia implements is incredibly noticeable and one of my absolute favorite graphical effects.
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