Maybe it's "perfectly acceptable" in some circles where the word is just casually thrown around with zero regard for what it means for some people. Otherwise, it is never, nor has it ever been "perfectly acceptable."
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CNN Host Slammed A Guest For Using The N-Word On Her Show
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Maybe it's "perfectly acceptable" in some circles where the word is just casually thrown around with zero regard for what it means for some people. Otherwise, it is never, nor has it ever been "perfectly acceptable."
TheOfficeMut
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...okay? What a way to take that shit so literally. I clearly meant that it doesn't matter what color you are in this context for the purpose of this discussion (on CNN quoting someone).
This is not being casually thrown around and enjoyed amongst friends in this instance. Have some perspective.
The Hermit
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I imagine someone saying Voldemort and people be outraged.
lightskintwin
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I think quoting somebody in order to drive home the point how racist they are is a perfectly acceptable use of the word.
perfectchaos007
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When you're quoting someone, you have to say it exactly how it was said. Otherwise people may think the person just said "N-word" which would make it seem like the originator censored his or herself.
Are you black? Because if not, this is going to be really ironic.
Well yeah. I don't think people should censor themselves when talking about white racism but it still feels weird when I hear a white person say on account of how many times I've been called a nigger by white people.
Some people don't want to hear it said by white people at all regardless of the context.
Lol, yeah right.
TheOfficeMut
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No I am not and it is still perfectly acceptable to quote someone saying it.
Are you implying that because I'm not I can't have the perspective of disapproving of hearing stereotypes or slurs about me? I can and I do but I find it perfectly fine when they're used in instances like this, i.e. having a discussion and quoting someone.
this + the white guilt of the audience
If people don't ever have to hear the word, especially as its used like it is in this context, they'll never have to deal with the reality of it. Head in the sand color blindness is one of the core principles of the white moderate voting group, and it's thinking like this that led to Trump being acceptable to a lot of people.
NoblesseOblige
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As a white person I have no right to say whether his use of the word was right or wrong. I don't think the news anchor has the right to either. But there was a black man in the video who was visually taken back by the comment, and I believe he thanked the host when she said to not say it? His is the only opinion of the three that matter to me in regards to this.
He could've presented it much better. If you're going to say it, esp in front of millions of people, use just a little bit of tact. It came off way too casually. I'm nitpicking, but it's a very sensitive topic. Tread lightly or just say "n-word"
lightskintwin
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As others have already stated but can't be stated enough, CONTEXT MATTERS. Otherwise you're just being triggered by buzzwords regardless of how it's used.
Because you're not black and have never been called a nigger, you can't possibly understand why we wouldn't want to hear it from white people under any circumstance.
Kor of Memory
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Today I Learned that "Sir, please don't say this word on my show" is being slammed by someone...
Like, she couldn't have been more polite about it. How exactly did she slam him?
Like, she couldn't have been more polite about it. How exactly did she slam him?
I can't agree with the first part of your statement. The "n word" is a strange substitute for reporting quoted statements although I don't hold it against anyone who prefers to use it if they feel uncomfortable saying the full word. On the other hand, a responsible professional should be allowed to say it in the context of conveying important information to an audience. The context is very important.
But that second part of your post, I agree. A white person scolding a POC on how to use language about their own race or ethnicity, being condescending and telling them that they can't, that's just dumb and narrow minded.
Air Zombie Meat
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Looks like theres no consensus on this. I always thought it was generally ok if you were quoting someone like this but I can see why CNN wouldn't want the word used on their network.
This is one of those rare situations where I'm okay with it. I want people to hear the actual language used by racist so we can get past this be nice to racist phase.
He was showing how fucked up these people are and sugar coating it makes these people seem less insane. I would have never agreed to being okay with this if it wasn't for this election cycle.(That being said, it's okay to be offended. There is so much history behind that word that it's hard not to be.)
Focus.
He was showing how fucked up these people are and sugar coating it makes these people seem less insane. I would have never agreed to being okay with this if it wasn't for this election cycle.(That being said, it's okay to be offended. There is so much history behind that word that it's hard not to be.)
Focus.
You are upset at someone who is trying to help you. You are not upset at the person who actually said it.
TheOfficeMut
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I'm Slavic and white and have been called slurs of that kind. My point stands that if I heard those same slurs used in this context I would deem it appropriate because it is quoting a White House pick.
And I'll reiterate that I think it's considerably more important to have it uncensored in this situation given who said it and the political climate.
Loving all the shots at her here for "white guilt". Genuine disgust and shock doesn't even play anymore, does it? Let's also ignore the reaction and appreciation from the brother that was on the panel, and dismiss network and social standards while we're at it.
How much of the Kool- Aid have you all had this week?
How much of the Kool- Aid have you all had this week?
gutter_trash
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if Bannondorf or SeSessions ever used the word, it is newsworthy to inform the public that they used the word in pejorative manor.
sweeping it under the rug just keeps to public ignorant of the facts
The title is such bait bullshit on both sides.
He is quoting the piece of shit Trump wants in office. Why even try to hide it? Or pander it. This is what people elected.
But at the same time, she basically said just don't use it on my show. No different than telling someone to stop saying fuck or another bad word. It is her ass if they fine her show.
He is quoting the piece of shit Trump wants in office. Why even try to hide it? Or pander it. This is what people elected.
But at the same time, she basically said just don't use it on my show. No different than telling someone to stop saying fuck or another bad word. It is her ass if they fine her show.
Who said I was upset? When did I write anything about not being upset about the racist he was quoting?
You're still white and you know damn well it's different.
Seriously. And Louis CK's bit on the phrase "n-word" pops to mind.
While nowhere near comparable to "fake news", this trend in headline writing has been damaging to people's absorption of news in its own right, and at times dovetails with fake news.
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TheOfficeMut
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Okay. You go your way and I'll go mine.
So you have no actual perspective on the ugliness of the n-word then, other than you thinking it's comparable to the rest of the English language.
EDIT: And you can claim ownership of all of the slurs about YOU. "Proper usage" of the n-word isn't something that you get to decide for the rest of the world.
That's how I viewed it.
Even when quoting someone, use of the n-word on television is like using profanity.
Interfectum
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Holy shit her crying at the end... what the fuck.
Yup. This is why I dont even like the term N-word. Why cant we say it as it is as long as we dont call that someone?
It's too fucking ridiculous for words.
You're a journalist, for fucks sake. This is the world we live in.
Grow up or do something else.
GoldenEye 007
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I'm black and have been called a nigger and I think it is perfectly ok to use when using it to quote someone to point out how racist as fuck this administration is that the US just elected. Her ire should be directed at the person hiring a white supremacist into the White House - not a journalist/academic quoting the word. But that doesn't pay the bills for CNN.
Onimusha78
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She can't be serious...
lightskintwin
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I've never liked the term N-word myself either, same with F-word, S-word, etc... because everybody knows exactly what you mean as if you said it, so you might as well just say it.
TheLaughingStock
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She needs to get a grip. It's not that serious especially given the context.
Is anyone actually stopping you from saying it?
Because it does nothing but perpetuate the use of the word. Just because somebody else said it doesn't mean you should say it. I'm pretty sure the guest on the show knew better than to suddenly go direct-quote on the word.
And I (and the host, and the other guest on the show) disagree. Had he said "the n-word," the point would've still been made just as strongly and nobody would've been offended by the guest.
Of course Mr. "Have some perspective" isn't black. That's a shocker.
Yes this is how I see it but apparently I'm wrong to think this because I'm white.
I understand the vugarity part of the argument. However this word has historical importance and it should be used in this way.
A Link to the Past
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weh
Darryl M R
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We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one my friend.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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No one has ever said this. Where are you getting this from?
lightskintwin
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Treating words like Voldemort ("You-Know-Who" or "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named") is counter productive amongst intellectual discourse.
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