Shane89
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Uncharted 4 and Battlefield 1 support dolby atmos.
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Digital Foundry: Assassin creed origins Xbox one x tech first look.
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Uncharted 4 and Battlefield 1 support dolby atmos.
InsaneTiger
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Checkerboard rendering is a legitimate method of getting to 4K. This is fine.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Faux-k?
Bustanen
Member
Jaguar can't do it.
Bitch Pudding
Member
True 4Kinda
That said, there's nothing wrong with checkerboard 4K, it's just that it doesn't match MS 's PR, which promised a true "pixel purity " w/o compromises, and a gaming experience so far ahead of PS4 Pro that it plays in its own league.
That said, there's nothing wrong with checkerboard 4K, it's just that it doesn't match MS 's PR, which promised a true "pixel purity " w/o compromises, and a gaming experience so far ahead of PS4 Pro that it plays in its own league.
Where do get the high PC settings?
He only says that he gets the impression that the presentation is more like that of a high end PC experience
He, like everyone else outside of devs, has no idea what the actual high/max PC settings are
What does my post have to do with what you said?
Opus Angelorum
Member
Give me 1080p with checkerboard at a bulletproof 30fps and I'll be more than happy.
They did state that, yes. But their marjeting in their conference and interviews in the last few days has been touting true 4k and how the PS4 Pro is a One S equivalent.
The average person will think XBox X = True 4k.
GET PHIL SPENCER IN HERE
InsaneTiger
Member
Yup, I wonder how CrapDog feel about this.
Fredrik
Member
It's still a failure imo. I planned to get an Xbox One X to get a taste of 4K until prices go down so I can upgrade to 4K on the PC. But if I won't get 4K then what's the point? Get a taste of fake 4K isn't quite as interesting. And the framerate is still the usual 30fps we've got used to on console. Feels very much like a simple (but definitely well designed) stop-gap console just like Pro, it's slightly better but it's still not able to hit 4K unless devs start sacrificing things. So what's the point really? It would be better to push the PR message toward hw supersampling and anisotropic filtering than "4K".
PackAPunchedMick
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Mr Spencer's interview with the verge is starting to look a little silly.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
No reason it can't do 2160cb if you see what Horizon looks like.
DonkeyKong
Member
Ok im confused, someone explain the difference between dynamic 4k and checkerboard 4k? (I could just google it I suppose)
texhnolyze
Banned
I honestly can't wait to get checkerboard on PC.
It's a legit tech, 4k is so demanding otherwise.
It's a legit tech, 4k is so demanding otherwise.
Deathknell
Member
True 4Kidding
It literally has everything to do with that.
Phil Spencer said:
And no this isn't about devs being able to do what they want to with hardware. The above quote says they wouldn't need it because it's a "true 4K console" which is completely different.
PackAPunchedMick
Member
Did you read any of his (Phil Spencer) interviews post E3?
Christocolus
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Lmao XD. Also, the alpha build is already closer to high-end PC settings than console settings.wow. so much salt in this thread:
1. this is an alpha build
2. this is one of the first games for X1X... lets wait a little for the 2nd wave at least, where Devs have more time to optimise.. okay?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more
When his first party output is running at native 4k (Gears 4, FH3, FM7) Phil can say whatever he wants.
You know what I find quite funny on here is most people who actually intend to buy this console are saying, this is fine, we knew this all along. I know I and others said that we'd prefer 4K checkerboard for higher settings.
Then you get the people who clearly have no intention of buying this are like LOLOLOL TRUE 4Kinda.
Everyone knew since this thing was announced that it was only 1st party games which would be running at 4K.
Its also a bloody alpha build.
Then you get the people who clearly have no intention of buying this are like LOLOLOL TRUE 4Kinda.
Everyone knew since this thing was announced that it was only 1st party games which would be running at 4K.
Its also a bloody alpha build.
They forgot "Almost 4K" .
For $100 more than the PS4 Pro and achieving 4K via the same techniques st the same performance, I'd say this is not worth the premium. Not fine for that price.
Savantcore
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Maximilian Kolbe
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You're missing now they're act like they "planned" to buy Xbox One X.
Yeah no, implying i would ever trust their replies.
Not really.
wesleyshark
Banned
Yep.
Plus there's some of us who have 1080p displays who are buying the one x just for enhanced performance and supersampling.
Lots of power in that box, and I'm glad they aren't using it just to boast about true 4k.
Not at all, MS has consistently stated that devs can do whatever they want with the power. They have not once said every game will run native.
It does have significantly better specs, and I am sure the DF article on the final game will reflect that. I feel some of you are misunderstanding on purpose.
These 4k conversations are already exhausted.
Literally every X1X related threat ends up here.
The marketing seems to be intentionally opaque to give the impression that all X1X games will be True 4k.
The term "True" seems to refer to "native" when talking about 4k. With the exception of one interview with Phil Spencer where he appears to denounce the "manufactured" methods of achieving 4k (i..e checkerboarding), MS has never outrightly stated that the X1X will play every game in native/true 4k. In fact as people have linked their definition of what qualifies as 4k includes dynamic resolution and checkerboarding, but seemingly these do not satisfy MS's definition of True 4k
tl:dr;
MS have seemingly never said that every game on X1X will achieve native/true 4k, only that the console can [/I ]achieve it. Thus according to makreting X1x is a "true 4k" console because it can enable the antive res.
Phil has given some shady interviews to create the impression that all games are native 4k #marketing
When you see 4k on an X1X game case it can include dynamic resolution and checkerboarding techniques.(according to their own definition)
MS may actually label when something hits true / native 4k
People really need to stfu with "so much for true 4k" bullshit
Literally every X1X related threat ends up here.
The marketing seems to be intentionally opaque to give the impression that all X1X games will be True 4k.
The term "True" seems to refer to "native" when talking about 4k. With the exception of one interview with Phil Spencer where he appears to denounce the "manufactured" methods of achieving 4k (i..e checkerboarding), MS has never outrightly stated that the X1X will play every game in native/true 4k. In fact as people have linked their definition of what qualifies as 4k includes dynamic resolution and checkerboarding, but seemingly these do not satisfy MS's definition of True 4k
tl:dr;
MS have seemingly never said that every game on X1X will achieve native/true 4k, only that the console can [/I ]achieve it. Thus according to makreting X1x is a "true 4k" console because it can enable the antive res.
Phil has given some shady interviews to create the impression that all games are native 4k #marketing
When you see 4k on an X1X game case it can include dynamic resolution and checkerboarding techniques.(according to their own definition)
MS may actually label when something hits true / native 4k
People really need to stfu with "so much for true 4k" bullshit
Gradly
Member
I know that but it's not an excuse. I can say that both OG Xbox One and PS4 can run native 4k games (a card game for example) but devs can do whatever they like.
Microsoft has Assassin's Creed: Origin marketing and they ofc worked closely with the team and knew before the keynote what's going on.
PS4 Pro runs some games in native 4K but Sony didn't market that at all they went all in telling about the checkerboard or Interpolation (or whatever that called) techniques from the start. They could have simply said it runs true 4k but devs can do whatever they like
Did anybody claim AC was true 4k? I don't remember those claims.
Did Microsoft claim that all games would be true 4k? I don't remember that claim.
I definitely remember them saying that Devs can use the power however they wish though.
So a non story then. The game is what it is. Carry on.
Did Microsoft claim that all games would be true 4k? I don't remember that claim.
I definitely remember them saying that Devs can use the power however they wish though.
So a non story then. The game is what it is. Carry on.
Christocolus
Member
Have you forgotten what happened when the switch was revealed? You'll always see these guys downplaying. It's the norm around these parts.Lol
MilkyJoe
Member
It's destroying them inside and it's all they have the cling to.
The best part is that I don't want 4K games, I would rather have the frames and the eye candy over 4K every day of the week and twice on Sundays, so a little dynamic CBR with the 4K is a squirt of piss in the ocean.
Truely pathetic, especially when the non 4K mandate has been championed by xbox owners for months
The point being that those titles are plausibly under his control at least somewhat. 3rd party can do what they want because there's no mandate for native 4k.
Since this uses checkerboarding to hit 2160p does that mean that the image quality is on par with Horizon on PS4 Pro?
This is not aimed at trying to make a comparison, just for me to understand the kind of visual fidelity represented for this game on XBOX X.
Also, does the Pro version of this game feature checkerboarding to 1440p? Because it is mentioned on this video.
This is not aimed at trying to make a comparison, just for me to understand the kind of visual fidelity represented for this game on XBOX X.
Also, does the Pro version of this game feature checkerboarding to 1440p? Because it is mentioned on this video.
Bits N Pieces
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MilkyJoe
Member
"why would they drop it for Xbox One X instead of keeping it & using higher settings? "
Ergo they are able to user higher settings anyway, they are using high PC settings, watch the video.
You just asked a question, i gave you the answer and you switch and start hamming about excuses, I thought you were not bothered?
Doesn't change what Phil said. He didn't state that exception nor was it implied. Also, Origins was a showcase game at the conference. It takes on a different significance from another random 3rd party games.
Christocolus
Member
Lol. It is and according to DF It's also running at high end PC settings now and they compare it to Watchdogs 2 on PC. You should read the entire article.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ox-one-looks-stunning-but-we-need-to-see-more
They don't have pro version to test, that's what previous updates to older ass creeds on pro run at, apart from the collection that's native iirc.