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Digital Foundry: PS4K / Neo spec leak is genuine, dev kits on their way to devs
- Thread starter chadskin
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but what if U4 will never be patched for "Neo" mode?
Ghost Slayer
Member
Guess I will ask my brother if he wants my PS4 so I can have an excuse to buy PS4K
Chittagong
Gold Member
I think I need to go ly down
Yes, I don't get it. This is what I posted yesterday:
Do they think they will end up losing by being the most underpowered machine if NX launches with better specs and Microsoft revises their console too? They will be surprised to find out that's their brand and the fair price/more than capable machine is making them a huge success.
Interfectum
Member
biggest disappointment is no HDD upgrade. i guess they'll save that for Neo 2 in 2019. 
platina
Member
I know right? Props to Kotaku for breaking the story first.
Because its been 2 years and 5 months since the PS4 released?
If all games must support ps4 and come on one disk, then it makes sense that they wouldn't allow devs to target a UHD drive's space, since that would mean that ps4 owners couldn't play that disk.
Doesn't necessarily mean that ps4k doesn't have a UHD drive
Oh I didn't know ps4k was already released. Can you show me where I can buy one?
Don't you dare bring logic to this thread! We're going to play Uncharted 4 in 4K@60fps, can't you read?![/s]
I think this is not a big jump, we need more info though.
Be interesting to see what kind of improvements we see in Neo mode for games. As someone who also games on PC the only big improvement for me would be system exclusives and I'm not sure if that's worth. Now watch me fold quicker than a red hot mars bar and pick one up
Looking forward to seeing what Microsofts 1.5 is like, assuming we get one.
Damn, E3 is gonna be magnificent this year, can't wait.
Looking forward to seeing what Microsofts 1.5 is like, assuming we get one.
Damn, E3 is gonna be magnificent this year, can't wait.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I expect it will play movies but i don't think Sony will want devs using UHD blu ray disc .
dead monkey uk
Member
It has yet to be confirmed if the PS4K has a 4K blu-ray drive. I think Sony would be mad not to include one.
The original thread said it would be $499 if they upgraded the CPU, if not it would be $399. The PS4K seems to have gone for the latter.
My guess would be $399 for PS4K and $299 for PS4
Not gonna happen.
biggest disappointment is no HDD upgrade. i guess they'll save that for Neo 2 in 2019.
Maybe they found the room to allow thicker (>9.5mm) HDDs? I'd be ok with that.
Sure. For example, Infamous Second Son runs at 40-45 fps sometimes.
i'd need a ly down if i paid $400 for a gtx 970 in 2017.
I will be loll'n so hard when this happens.
Dictator93
Member
They would have to be fully GPU limited for that to be the case, to the point where the CPU could manage everything still under 16.6 ms to feed the GPU.
I honestly doubt devs leave 40-60% of the CPU time on the table in 30hz games.
Haha I know, but considering that it's almost certain that we will be able to play a better version of the game not THAT long from now (could be years away if the scenario was different), it really makes me think if I should just wait. I've grown patient over the years, and while ND games are possibly my favorites right now, I still can hold my urge.
In that case, I will obviously get the PS4 version. I wouldn't really miss much if I wait to see if the game will release on the improved console or not. I will be more vulnerable to spoilers though.
Inglorious_ Man
Member
I am surprised that UHD 4k blu ray support for movies has not been confirmed yet for the PS4k, because Sony Pictures is releasing UHD 4k blu rays this year.
Feral Gingy
Banned
This and NX coming in the near future means only one thing...
Being a nerd has become increasingly expensive as the years go by
I'm hyped for both, though
Being a nerd has become increasingly expensive as the years go by
I'm hyped for both, though
I can buy this now? Or It will definitely be available before the 3 year mark?
Aztechnology
Member
It's not quite that simple you have bottlenecks I'm other places, especially CPU. It won't just get 2x+ performance like a 970 and a solid processor provides.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Wait it doesn't even have a UHD drive?
Insane Metal
Member
Basically the same CPU with a higher clock? How is that supposed to make the games run at higher framerates?
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Just such a crazy turn of events. A few weeks ago i had never thought this was going to happen. Not when it's barely three year since its launch and we've already seen graphics that make your mouth fall off.....so to speak. It all just seems so unnessecary.
I am definitely 100% now waiting for Sony to make it official during E3 and hold off on buying a PS4. Even if that might mean waiting till early next year.
And what i also really wonder now is, what about MS and Nintendo? If the reports are true about NX, it's clearly more powerful than PS4 but likely below PS4K. MS?.........
I am definitely 100% now waiting for Sony to make it official during E3 and hold off on buying a PS4. Even if that might mean waiting till early next year.
And what i also really wonder now is, what about MS and Nintendo? If the reports are true about NX, it's clearly more powerful than PS4 but likely below PS4K. MS?.........
Just buy the f*****g thing!!!
TheSlySoul
Member
Consider Nintendo's history with stuff like this, I would not be that surprised if it happens. Easier to stop producing SKUs and just sell the stuff that is not selling.
It does seem odd to not upgrade the drive. So 4K content will probably be all digital.
dead monkey uk
Member
No way they need a base model at $299/$350 , sales would suffer if they went back to $399 while Xbox One is $100 or more cheaper.
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Deleted member 325805
Unconfirmed Member
Will games with performance issues need a Neo mode or will the extra power just clean the frame rate up? Like Until Dawn runs in the low 20s most of the time, would that now run at 30 without being patched?
spons
Gold Member
There's no such thing as a "UHD" drive. The PS4 and Xbox One already include one: the blu-ray drive.
To decode UHD Blu-ray movies you need an HEVC decoder though. If Sony does not include that they're dumb as a rock.
Jim_Cacher
Member
Interesting, I haven't yet brought a PS4. I may get one next year. But first, I need to see what NX is.
Amazing
And the Neo is available today?
At least I'm hoping for a price drop for the regular PS4, so that used ones will become cheaper.
Stop it, Neil.
SolidSnakex
Member
But it still doesn't explain why the gaming upgrade is necessary? They could do the media upgrade to the PS4 without messing with anything that'd impact the visuals. The PS4 is currently tracking ahead of where it was last year. Why mess with that?
So, this year alone you've got people buying PS4's at a record pace, and yet you're about to tell every one of those people in a few months that had they just waited they could've got an even more powerful PS4. As there was no way for those people to even know that Sony would be pulling this shit. That's why DF is asking "why". From Sony's perspective this makes no sense as everything is going right for them.
boredandlazy
Member
750ti price drop incoming?
nismopower
Member
So 60fps uncharted4 remaster when Neo launches then ?
First reveal footage was Running on ps4 Neo confirmed ?
Still getting the New ps4. Giving my current ps4 to Family i guess.
First reveal footage was Running on ps4 Neo confirmed ?
Still getting the New ps4. Giving my current ps4 to Family i guess.
cant see MS NOT reacting to this i mean xbone is weak enough as is ... now theres gonna be 3? stronger consoles ? i dont believe it
DJ Lushious
Member
To be fair, the "PS4 Neo" is still a rumor until confirmed by Sony. So, maybe don't call out others until there's facts? LOL?