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[Interfectum]

Nah, there'll just be another incremental hardware upgrade in two years.

There will probably not be a hardware reset again. Just buy a new PS4 every 6 years or so.

 

[dealer-]

From what I understand, there will not be two SKUs of PS4 games, there will be one PS4 game you buy and it will inherently include a standard and Neo mode?

That's perfectly fine IMO.

How will this work, standard on disc with Neo users downloading an update?

 

[ninjablade]

suggests that Sony and AMD have pushed the boat out, that they are using the upcoming Polaris technology.

this if from the DF article, this could be a game changer if true.

 

[dracula_x]

So Neo boost it to 35 plus, which make it stable 30 lock.

I don't think average 35 fps is enough for 30 fps lock, 40 fps more likely.

 

[jschreier]

Which is why this whole Kotaku rumor reeks of bullshit, they are claiming 4k gaming.

Imagine the price on a console that's going to run games at 4k. What's it gonna be 1000 bucks? lol Kotaku

Time to ban Kotaku.

Well, yeah. That's what I mean^^ Probably just some Kotaku pipe dream.

Slow news week/month/season probably.

lmao @ Kotaku basically lighting a fire of speculation and walking away. It will continue to burn until E3, where the entire discussion will likely be rendered moot (when nothing is relealed), because 'Sony doesn't comment on rumors'

This is giving me 'Sony too!' of yore teas, tbh.

This is making me all misty-eyed for the time when Kotaku was banned.

Typical Kotaku nonsense. I do not believe this PS 4k gaming nonsense one second.

I can't believe how long this topic has ran with people actually thinking it could be true!

1) It's a Kotaku lie to generate ad revenue before they die.

2) People begged for a PSP with dual sticks and Sony refused because they know hardware revisions with different set ups split the user base.

TL'DR: Kotaku made it all up for click bait.

Guys, ps4.5 /ps4k is not true and is totally made up by kotaku to generate clicks.

Now Hulk Hogan has pretty much killed gawker and all its sites, they need to earn as much money as quick as they can.

This story is an ad revenue cash grab from Kotaku, and should not be taken seriously.
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Also expect more cash grab story's in the new few weeks from ALL gawker sites.

1) why do Sony need to make a statement every time Kotaku invents a story? If they did they would get nothing else done

2) "Clearly happening"? No. Not a single piece of evidence supports it.

lol

 

[RowdyReverb]

PS4K - $350
PS4 - $250

Makes sense.

No. Samsung's standalone 4K blu-ray player is $399 by itself. Base PS4 could hit $250 though

 

[gamz]

Wait, PS4K at $349? 2x GPU, UHD bluray drive, just $349? How's that possible?

Yeah, there's no way.

I'm thinking 499 with the Current PS4 stays at it's current price.

 

[Interfectum]

lol

How long have you had this post ready to roll? ;p

 

[FalsettoVibe]

DF is saying the GPU is based off the new AMD tech, POLARIS, this thing will be a beast in a box.

Nice!

 

[The Flash]

lol

Ayy lmao

 

[Holygriever]

PS Neo.
XBOX Gaf.

Believe.


Edit: LMAO that press sneak fuck laugh.

 

[Max_Po]

Just got my tax refund.
Way more than i thought, guess I'm getting a Neo.

LMAO.... you will have your tax return from 2017 by the time Neo comes out....

 

[TedMilk]

As always, for me this will depend solely on the games and what developers choose to use the extra power for. Wait and see!

 

[Zombie James]

So that weak CPU is confirmed now? LOL, you should have invested in a better CPU Sony.

Jaguar/Puma (Puma only offered power efficiency improvements over Jaguar, IIRC) is still AMD's best mobile chip and Zen is nowhere in sight. What would they have upgraded to? Desktop Excavator cores are nearly 2.5x larger and they have to stick this into an APU package.

 

[Blablurn]

E3 will b crazy

 

[JaggedSac]

Seems like a good upgrade. And at only a $100 or $150 more than the base one.

 

[jschreier]

How long have you had this post ready to roll? ;p

Just made it tbh

 

[GhostTrick]

this if from the DF article, this could be a game changer.

What game changer ? This is just the only way to get a 36CU AMD GPU in a console form factor. Keep in mind this class of GPU eats up to 200 to 250W alone. The fact that you get such a big chip in a 100W tdp is already the "game changer".

 

[ninjablade]

Nice!

not 100% but they seem to think so.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Yeah this is going to be at least $399.

 

[Neoxon]

this if from the DF article, this could be a game changer if true.

That could be huge, actually.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

So that weak CPU is confirmed now? LOL, you should have invested in a better CPU Sony.

Woah!
Quick! Someone get this post down to the engineers over at Sony before it's too late!

 

[Always-honest]

any word on a better quality controller (better quality materials and build. Don't change anything about the controller otherwise please)?

 

[Aztechnology]

A ~$100 I3 6100 is faster than the 8 core Jag isn't it...?

 

[Dictator93]

this if from the DF article, this could be a game changer if true.

Why would this be a gamechanger?
If anything it means polaris is just another GCN-revision, which is arguably not too awesome.

That could be huge, actually.

Why would that be huge?

 

[Bl@de]

lol

ayyy that's me. Well, I believe it now^^ Never thought it's a bad thing though

 

[vpance]

Not surprised 4K Blu-ray isn't mentioned in the dev kit. Even if it's in there it won't be used by games.

I'm sure it'll be there in retail models. No need to add extra cost for the dev kits.

 

[Chobel]

Oh what the heck is going on with your avatar?

You need to watch the funniest shit of last week https://youtu.be/h_qNqBloKU4?t=10m55s

 

[Phyla]

I've held off buying a PS4 and I can't help feeling a bit excited.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Wait, PS4K at $349? 2x GPU, UHD bluray drive, just $349? How's that possible?

Die shrinks and the factories Sony uses will probably already be making normal Polaris GPUs for MSI, Gigabyte, etc which means pretty good yields and cheap for the factories since they will be routinely pushing those out.

 

[daveo42]

I think they want to sell it at a profit at $399.

They also have to work with whatever APU they can get from AMD at the moment. Not a great boost, but better than what we have right now. Expecting most framerate gains to come from GPGPU compute with the added bandwidth, higher clock and extra available RAM.

 

[Onaco]

If there isn't a 4K Blu-Ray Drive for movies, no deal

 

[IvorB]

The PS4 I own was just a Beta system.

Basically yeah. This is Sony's patch... just typical I guess.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Die shrinks and the factories Sony uses will probably already be making normal Polaris GPUs for MSI, Gigabyte, etc which means pretty good yields and cheap for the factories since they will be routinely pushing those out.

It's the UHD blu-ray drive that will push the cost up.

 

[Blanquito]

Nah, there'll just be another incremental hardware upgrade in two years.

Why do people keep saying two years? Is math really that hard? 2016 - 2013 = 2?

 

[Vinland]

Well, I can't wait for gamestop to announce a trade in path. I got an extra ps4 lying around that can be a sacrifice. Would like a dark souls 3 60fps patch. Will be interesting to see the Next Xbox reveal. I'd like a patch for Sunset overdrive to 1080 native patch.

 

[Corpekata]

lol

Best part is that some of them not only clearly believe it now but seem super excited now that they can't hand wave it away and they know Sony is actually doing it.

 

[Z3M0G]

there are no indications of any changes to the Blu-ray drive. This is surprising, as we would have assumed that Sony would take this opportunity to support the new UHD 4K movie standard, supporting standard 50GB discs along with 66GB and 100GB variants. For now it seems that developers are set to stick with 50GB of storage.

Does this part make sense? Shouldn't Sony be doing everything they can to support all forms of 4K movie disks?

The other day I saw lots of 4K blurays on shelves in Best Buy... I don't shop much anymore so this was a surprise to me. What are these exactly?

 

[danowat]

Why do people keep saying two years? Is math really that hard? 2016 - 2013 = 2?

Read the post of the guy I replied to with that comment..........

 

[Interfectum]

Does this part make sense? Shouldn't Sony be doing everything they can to support all forms of 4K disks?

Has nothing to do with games so probably no need to put on dev kits, who knows.

 

[Ricky_R]

lol

Hahah you were eager to let that one out, eh???

 

[Renmyra]

I really hope FFXV makes use of it. It needs that slight push to look good.

 

[nib95]

Nah, there'll just be another incremental hardware upgrade in two years.

That would just piss me off to no avail. I'd probably just drop Sony tbh. If I wanted incremental upgrades all the time I'd just go PC. Console gaming isn't using this system for a reason, it's all about value for money, longevity, and pure closed platform priority.

Yeah.

They may very well release PS5 two years later...

Make it 3-4 and sure. As long as they get it right first time this time.

Trust me, I'm not a big fan of this myself. Being a teenager, it's often hard to convince your parents to buy you something new. Which is why I hope there is a nice trade in deal.

No idea how my younger cousins etc will afford one, but no doubt they'll want one.

 

[No_Style]

The relatively meager bump in memory bandwidth makes me wonder if that will be a bottleneck.

 

[IvorB]

lol

Ha ha! Savour the moment.

 

[ninjablade]

Why would this be a gamechanger?
If anything it means polaris is just another GCN-revision, which is arguably not too awesome.


Why would that be huge?

Our concern was that PS4's low-level APIs may not be compatible with the newer architecture, meaning problems running older games, but it seems that this is not an issue. And the good news here is that Polaris' efficiency improvements could add still further to the expected increase in performance. Certainly, we should expect to see cumulative improvements to memory compression, which should help us to get more out of the constricted 256-bit GDDR5 interface. To the best of our knowledge, there were no such technologies in place on the original PlayStation 4.

DF seems to think being polaris will give it a extra boost in performance. we really don't know much advantages polaris can offer being that it's new tech.

 

[Leezard]

How will this work, standard on disc with Neo users downloading an update?

If it's just higher framerate or some better effects you would get both on disc. Think something like PC settings.

 

[Breakage]

Sony seemingly acknowledges the need to integrate the two models of PlayStation 4 available simultaneously on the market - internally dubbed as 'Base' and 'Neo'. There will be no games exclusive to the Neo model, every title will be available on both, and there's no suggestion of VR-exclusive Neo modes at this point. Developers are prohibited from creating Neo-exclusive gameplay features, and enhancements are expected to be graphical and performance-based in nature. Gamers on both systems will be tied into the same ecosystem, meaning that users of both models will be competing against one another in online games. The user interface and PSN systems will also be identical.

If all this is true, it makes this mid-gen upgrade even more pointless imo. It's always gonna be held back by the base PS4.

 

[Par Score]

lol

Pretty reserved all things considered.

 

[GameSeeker]

lol

Indeed. Give credit where credit is due. Kotaku was clearly first at breaking this story.