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Edge previews 40 hours of Final Fantasy XV
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Captain Stew
Banned
Whats with all these outlets trying to spoil this game. With all the coverage it keeps getting you could know the entire story w/o playing.
We knew we could always go back.
Dark_3nergy
Member
Yikes, different game systems/mechanics that are.. locked? or region specific sounds absurdly horrifying. As a player, I prefer to build on consistency, if this game were put into my lap and I played it I am not sure how these different regional systems mechanics would be alluring to me. But having some itemization and stats of certain creatures become invalid when crossing to another region. Like, how does one feel like they're actually progressing or building strength if that sense of item/equipment strengthening is lost when they go to explore? Exploring and a sense of wonder are important to me too. As is feeling accomplished in having good gear to fall back on.
Just my 2 cents.
Begaria
Member
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm still good if they execute it correctly.
brandonh83
Banned
Uh, okay. It says "late" in the game. From the other thread, I was under the impression that it was the second half of the game. This doesn't sound like that big of a deal. Typically near the end of something the story will play out in a more linear fashion. But we still don't know just how much "late" in the game actually means. It could be a few hours or 30 minutes. Kneejerking doesn't seem sensible at this juncture.
I kinda get that sense too. It seems like this article isn't written clearly enough to convey it's message. Interesting.
FlutterPuffs
Member
I'm ok with this. Some of my favorite RPGs, final fantasy VI and Xenogears had a very linear second half. Still a flaw, but I'll live with it.
The fact that you can travel back in time is sweet though.
The fact that you can travel back in time is sweet though.
Altered Juice
Member
Guess i won't be upgrading back to deluxe edition, then.
Simo
Member
Yeah. This was what was posted in the other thread going into detail about the Chocobos:
But Japanese devs have had many of the best games this gen in Bloodborne, Bayonetta, tons of Nintendo games
Astral Dog
Member
No surprise the plot is super Bad, but still sounds fun
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I love it when
Japanese style stealth/horror
Flame Lord
Member
Hmm, wasn't the thing about it
going from open world to really linear in those 4chan leaks awhile back?
BRocknRolla
Member
I think if there's a good storyline reason to leave mechanics behind, for example Chocobos are really important to gameplay in the countryside but have no place at all on the city (I'm making up an example, EDIT: Sounds like the Chocobos example is actually real, ha), that's perfectly fine with me. Could even create some interesting changes of pace throughout.
But upgrades disappearing? If you character basically loses what you've put into them from region to region, that's really disappointing. It destroys the sense of progression JRPGs provide.
FlutterPuffs
Member
...Edge is the most well articulated games journalism magazine you can get.
You probably mean a piece that you agree with then.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
I want that but I guess I'll forever have to settle for bravely default.
I'm not sure what you're getting at? From the sound of things you don't lose your characters items or strength when you change regions. If you get stronger, you'll still have all of your equipment and levels when you go back to another area. I can almost promise you that you'll need to do that for some of the hunts and side quests.
As for regional mechanics... there's not a ton of information about what that actually means in tota. Chocobo stuff not rolling over makes some amount of sense, but do we know if a chocobo has region-specific uses? Like some can run across water in a water-heavy area, others can climb mountainous areas better, and then maybe there's a whole system dedicated to getting the "right" chocobo that does everything! Do you get to keep the chocobo stuff when you return to a region?
Cid's stuff just makes it sound like you have to go back to do it which is... duh?
The vagueness of the preview is frustrating.
The Xtortionist
Member
Fuck it, let's get weird. Just hope it's executed well.
LordOfLore
Banned
That was based on Tabata outright saying the game gets more focused towards the end.
You can just fast travel back to Cid to upgrade weapons.
That structure almost sounds like they approached the game as a series of smaller games, like they created a bunch of Episode Duscae's and loosely connected them.
Which would make a lot of sense based on what we know about the development.
Hell yeah man. I've already accepted that this game is gonna be some weird experiment.
fluffydelusions
Member
2nd half sounds super strange but I'll wait on reviews
brandonh83
Banned
I definitely don't want to write it off either way and I'm sure the complaints are valid. Previewing, reviewing games is tricky because they're tackled a bit differently. Casual players don't have deadlines or have to write up huge articles about what they're playing, which I imagine can make things chore-ish and even give a reviewer a slightly different mindset. They're important, but I read them to get some information and not really for the "verdict" aspect as I disagree with critics all the time when it comes to the overall quality of something, even if I agree with core criticisms.
And then you have games that review well but seemingly everyone else hated, like Final Fantasy XIII.
Well, "late game" not the entire second half of it. I was under this impression too at first, but re-reading has cooled me down about it.
Death Penalty
Member
Is it confirmed there are meaningful upgrades to strive for after you leave Cid's area or are you just assuming?
Astral Dog
Member
Final Fantasy B
Or
Final Fantasy?
Biohazard
Biohazard
BRocknRolla
Member
So they don't mean "the customizations disappear," they meant the "character who you go to for customizations disappear." But you can go back to see them in actuality.
That's good for that part the, even of it feels disjointed.
I actually LOVE this... I usually get bored by open world before I can finish whatever game it is... but if this game switches to linear at some point, this is absolutely PERFECT.
meltingparappa
Member
Jesus christ this thread.
My heart can't take this temptation against my media blackout policy.
My heart can't take this temptation against my media blackout policy.
GinoFelino
Member
Preach!
Hating on Edge for not being well-articulated is *looks at thesaurus* uproarious!
We don't have any more info on the Cid stuff as far as I know. It's a lot of assumptions at this point.
A lot of it is vague though. Hence all the questions. Not necessarily the guys fault since writing about a 40 hour game is daunting as hell, but the article isn't articulate.
I'm assuming you can just go back to Cid/Hammerhead to upgrade your weapons.
The Xtortionist
Member
Should also help alleviate the open world problem of "We need to save the world like right now, but first there's about 50 side quest markers on my map".
I mean, the option to do side quests will still be there, but it won't be as obvious.
Hentailover
Member
From what I understand, basically, only Cid can upgrade them and he is located in the first region... so, you have to backtrack...
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
What well that seems to be in line with any other game. Of course eventually you're going to run out of upgrades. I guess the bad part is he's the only one that upgrades for u so you have to continually go back? Meh not too much of a problem
That's one hell of a stentorian declaration, friend.
You can fast travel.
I thought you can only fast travel to either Regalia, or to the last place you were sleeping in?
Ploid 3.0
Member
And with that, I'm in doubt again. I don't like this type of stuff. Just yesterday after watching videos talking about big epic boss fights that may be in the game, the likes of FFXII end game hunts, I was nearly at "go ahead and preorder this." With this info, it feels like there's no point in those fights if I have do what the spoiler says. Reminds me of FF13 with it's taste of freedom then back to the normal (I haven't played it, but I have watched the transition and back).
Back to a long game of wait and see how people like it after a ton of time with it, and hopefully even replays. I do still like that they said that there's no shortage of things to do, so for a gift I will be ok with giving someone the game on that, but for me I have a lot of games where I still like doing random things. Still need to finish up Dragon Age DLC even, for all 3 games.
Gai Murakumo
Member
I believe other previews mentioned the shift in tone and pacing between the first and second half's of the game. All in all we will have to wait and see when the game comes out whether the shift is done well or not. I personally see nothing wrong with it if it is executed properly.
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