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Oh I know, but why is he talking like it's some kind of war.He's talking about Xbox one.
Oh I know, but why is he talking like it's some kind of war.He's talking about Xbox one.
As a PC gamer, I have confidence that we will find salvation from Konami's devilry through Cheat Engine.
It's not criticism. There's stuff we don't like in a lot of things we buy. But the benefit of the purchase is greater than the downsides, so we buy. That's basic consumerism, weighing the pros and cons, and coming to a decision. But understand, you are complicit with Konami employing the FOB macrotransactions scheme by buying the base game. You are looking at the product, which includes this FOB situation, and deciding the enterprise is worth it on the whole. That's how it goes. We all do it to some degree, and owning up to it is healthy.
I would go so far as to say you can complain about the FOB pay2win system, even if you purchased the game. It's still feedback, even if it's not heard as loudly as a lost purchase.
you areYou are expressing no vote on microtransactions by buying the game.
if zero people buy those,next game will have them again,because there's always the chance that somebody will.The FOB mode takes resources to develop for Konami. If zero people buy MTs while playing the FOB, then their next game simply won't have an FOB mode.
as i explained in the other quotes,no I'm notYou are misallocating the blame since any scenario where people get screwed over supposes a certain population buying enough MTs to make the development of an FOB mode worthwhile for Konami. Therefore, place blame on those buying MTs instead of desperately trying to shame people who are at worst a neutral factor for Konami.
Nobody has any reason not to put microtransactions in their games anymore. They're in uncharted 4's multiplayer. They're in TLOU's multiplayer. They're in ME3's multiplayer. And now they're just in MGSV's multiplayer.
The ship sailed years ago. It's been "the norm" for a long time and it's continued success means it's going to stay.
yes,by supporting such practice,you are screwing all us gamers over
you are expressing a vote,a vote that will matter for us all in the future
Please add this to the OP. We have reports from the front.I'm probably halfway through the game and the servers aren't even up, so I haven't been able to access an FOB yet. It doesn't really seem all that necessary. Yes, some of the "research" times are getting longer, but I'm pacing my development so that while I'm researching one thing, I'm getting done with another and have a new toy to play with as I do a couple missions.
Is this still a scummy practice? Yes, but it has not presented any huge issues so far.
Voting with your dollar is a farcical notion at this scale.
Organized ideological boycotts that trigger negative press and viral word of mouth can change things for the better (#PS4NoDRM). Not buying something and attacking a few other people for deciding to buy it despite acknowledging its faults is just you being an asshole to a few people for buying something they want to buy.
You should probably stop being an asshole.
MS had the only reason that mattered: when they presented their ideas to the masses, they found that it would cost them money.
Microtransactions work. They are tested. They are proven.
"I hope everyone else doesn't buy Metal Gear Solid, doesn't pay cash for virtual currency, and the reviewers all downgrade the game to an 8 to tank its metacritic score as backlash for this. While I sit back with my 6 FOBs laughing"
Sounds like NVIDIA vs AMD, hope everyone else buys the Fury so you can buy the 980ti with markedly better driver support guilt free.
Fact is I am more than likely to spend money on that FOB currency because I'm an adult with a job not a poor 14 year old getting this game for my birthday. I love this game that much I'll pay 50-70 dollars or whatever it is to have my 6 FOBs because it's value for money.
Voting with your dollar is a farcical notion at this scale.
Organized ideological boycotts that trigger negative press and viral word of mouth can change things for the better (#PS4NoDRM). Not buying something and attacking a few other people for deciding to buy it despite acknowledging its faults is just you being an asshole to a few people for buying something they want to buy.
You should probably stop being an asshole.
you are
really no way to twist this,you are.
if zero people buy those,next game will have them again,because there's always the chance that somebody will.
only reason to make a statement is not buying,because this TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE PUBLISHER'S POCKET
and that's the only lenguage they understand,again,look at microsoft and the xbone..they were having shitty pre orders,losing lots of money,they went back as fast as they could.
as i explained in the other quotes,no I'm not
BINGO
and what not buying the game would mean to konami
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exactly,losing money
and what the other publishers would take from this?
...
exactly,that microtransaction are bad for business and should be avoided
again,not really a complicated reasoning
Oh please get over yourselfyes,by supporting such practice,you are screwing all us gamers over
you are expressing a vote,a vote that will matter for us all in the future
Voting with your dollar is a farcical notion at this scale.
Organized ideological boycotts that trigger negative press and viral word of mouth can change things for the better (#PS4NoDRM). Not buying something and attacking a few other people for deciding to buy it despite acknowledging its faults is just you being an asshole to a few people for buying something they want to buy.
You should probably stop being an asshole.
you are right,we should just accept everything they throw at us.
BINGO
and what not buying the game would mean to konami
...
exactly,losing money
and what the other publishers would take from this?
...
exactly,that microtransaction are bad for business and should be avoided
again,not really a complicated reasoning
you are right,we should just accept everything they throw at us.
Voting with your dollar is a farcical notion at this scale.
Organized ideological boycotts that trigger negative press and viral word of mouth can change things for the better (#PS4NoDRM). Not buying something and attacking a few other people for deciding to buy it despite acknowledging its faults is just you being an asshole to a few people for buying something they want to buy.
You should probably stop being an asshole.
And it doesn't stop you from completing the SP campaign and having a good time doing so, which is how many people in the OT currently playing the game seem to be experiencing it -- all without any FOB enhancement.
You send your crew to do missions to gain more resources (yes in your SP game). Since you're limited to one "free" FOB, a max of two extra missions can be going on at once. More FOBs=more missions=quicker resource gathering.
That's it. You're a triple agent sent by Konami on a deep cover reverse PsyOp astroturf mission where salt is OSP. You may have played some posters in this thread like a piano, but you won't play any of us like damn fiddles.BINGO
and what not buying the game would mean to konami
...
exactly,losing money
and what the other publishers would take from this?
...
exactly,that microtransaction are bad for business and should be avoided
again,not really a complicated reasoning
you are right,we should just accept everything they throw at us.
you are right,we should just accept everything they throw at us.
This isn't the viewpoint most people have with purchases. I'm not doing that until I purchase the microtransactions. The argument you all are making is simplifying complex decisions to you're either with then or you're not. Once again people are buying this game for the single player which is GOTY worthy imo. They're not supporting something which has come to light so close to release. Have you all even played the game or fans of the series, this issue isn't even that bad. It seems like people just want to complain and fight the 'system' in this thread. Play the frickin game, it's not pushing microtransactions down your throat.
you are right,we should just accept everything they throw at us.
do you think somebody inside of the company would no ask question and try to find the answer?So by this logic:
If nobody buys the game, this takes money out of the publishers' pockets, and therefore, it makes a direct statement on MTs and how much we don't like them, despite the fact that there's no direct correlation that they can see between the two.
they will probably hire microsoft's magician that managed to understand why the pre orders of the xbone were so shitty.Stop buying these games, people. Companies will magically know what we want if we just stick to our guns and never buy the product! Don't air your grievances online where they can see them! Don't show them you hate MT by not engaging in them if you happen to pick up the game!
again..do you really think they would have no idea why?Hurt them in the pockets! They'll back down after reading our minds as to why their game failed, shifting through a million possible reasons and pinpointing it on the singular thing that is MTs!
I'd say this is a silver lining.
you are right,we should just accept everything they throw at us.
BINGO
and what not buying the game would mean to konami
...
exactly,losing money
and what the other publishers would take from this?
...
exactly,that microtransaction are bad for business and should be avoided
again,not really a complicated reasoning
Wait so this doesn't affect the single player?
Done.Please add this to the OP. We have reports from the front.
"Screw Konami" is putting it lightly.
Love how none of the 10/10 reviews would've mentioned this due to the monitored reviews at Konami.
Thanks. The situation is developing quickly, but I'm glad you've been a responsible OP that updates the first post!Done.
Done.
Voting with your dollar is a farcical notion at this scale.
Organized ideological boycotts that trigger negative press and viral word of mouth can change things for the better (#PS4NoDRM). Not buying something and attacking a few other people for deciding to buy it despite acknowledging its faults is just you being an asshole to a few people for buying something they want to buy.
You should probably stop being an asshole.
Thanks. The situation is developing quickly, but I'm glad you've been a responsible OP that updates the first post!
Nah, the mode affected will be only available tomorrow.Wait so this doesn't affect the single player?
Edit: It does.
He actually offers a solution beyond just not buying the game if you read his post.
But nah.
I'm probably halfway through the game and the servers aren't even up, so I haven't been able to access an FOB yet.
They don't really seem all that necessary. Yes, some of the "research" times are getting longer in the late game, but I'm pacing my development so that while I'm researching one thing, I'm getting done with another and have a new toy to play with while I do a handful of missions to bide my time.
Is this still a scummy practice? Yes, but it has not presented any huge issues so far in terms of progression.
If it's anything like MGS4, I won't use 60% of the available weapons/items anyway. Not out of spite, just because there's so many tools that accomplish the same job. MGS4 was kind of bloated in that way, but it was nice to have that many options!Nah, the mode affected will be only available tomorrow.
Reviewers and people that got early have been able to finish the SP. Grind only comes if you want to 100% your arsenal.
I've played it all weekend and already got decent arsenal with 0 grind.
No, we shouldn't. But this isn't "everything." It's a secondary (and beyond) base to a secondary MP mode in a single-player game that you haven't played yet (and thus have no idea to what degree it affects the SP).
I'm probably halfway through the game and the servers aren't even up, so I haven't been able to access an FOB yet.
They don't really seem all that necessary. Yes, some of the "research" times are getting longer in the late game, but I'm pacing my development so that while I'm researching one thing, I'm getting done with another and have a new toy to play with while I do a handful of missions to bide my time.
Is this still a scummy practice? Yes, but it has not presented any huge issues so far in terms of progression.