For what it's worth the grind to learn and become "goodish" at SF is easy beans compared to competitive Smash Bros Wii U.
I am breaking up my grinding of Smash with Splatoon and Witcher.
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For what it's worth the grind to learn and become "goodish" at SF is easy beans compared to competitive Smash Bros Wii U.
I am breaking up my grinding of Smash with Splatoon and Witcher.
I feel this.
Hard to get my fix when what I need is "Fighting and defeating a high level player who was beating me, overall in a long series of matches"
elsewhere actually have reliable matchmaking though.
skLaFarebear
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I don't know about you guys but I consider it a good night if I can finish with a win. Idc how scrubby their Ryu was or how bad the netcode was lol.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
They have bigger player bases though. And their matches are longer and there is a bigger window to matchmake in a lobby pre match.
KidA Seven
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How do they reseed?
Thomasorus
Member
Other Ocean doing the SF5 PC port.
Huw_Dawson
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First guest character revealed to be Jefailey.
call_kotaku
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if CEO gets some super old pre-E3 build
I hope Capcom is taking this whole "promoting to the community" thing seriously, but seeing the PS4 Ultra port I'm not so sure.
Thomasorus
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If it has 4 characters, it's the E3 build the press will see or saw already in pre-E3 meetings.
What I want to see is PC port announcements. Tekken and KI are most likely to do so.
That could probably be used against you in tournies. A sneaky player might try to not use psychology on you to annoy you into mistakes. I've often found psychological to be another word for orthodox (but if you think someone is expecting you to go weird, you have to be able to play orthodox as a mixup)
That could probably be used against you in tournies. A sneaky player might try to not use psychology on you to annoy you into mistakes. I've often found psychological to be another word for orthodox (but if you think someone is expecting you to go weird, you have to be able to play orthodox as a mixup)
Coffeeling
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From about 2005 onwards I've watched E3 as a circus of incompetent decisionmaking.
Yeah. What the last generation did was kill the midsize developer and the middle of the road game. Now it's do the same old dull AAA dance where every game is a wannabe movie action game with RPG elements and two failures will bankrupt you or go small.
MarkMan
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I made a combo video for KING in TEKKEN 7. Check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54tudHyuIQ0
Which character do you want to see next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54tudHyuIQ0
Which character do you want to see next?
Man I'd love KI on PC. I think MS will do a better ob with it than WB did with MKX.
It's sad seeing Itagaki fade away.
Shaheen, please.
They aren't dead, they just moved to PC. Companies like Paradox and Stardock are doing quite well.
I'd argue 2d fighting games are midsize developers for the most part.
Lab Zero's budget for Skullgirls is in line with what Age of Wonders 3 cost.
I suspect their budget was similar to Blazblue or Persona as well.
.la1n
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I don't have it yet, but I refuse to believe it can have the best music "free" when Tropical Freeze exists.
Spuck-uk
Banned
SquirrelSoup
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Kazumi Mishima! Failing that, Katarina, Josie or Asuka.
Jun or Kunimitsu.
edit: oh you meant combo video
I like you.
If you have even a modicum of love for hip-hop, surf rock, and various types of electronica, you are going to adore this OST.
Ha ha you just convinced me to get it. You fucker! I wasn't even following your conversation and my eyes lit up whilst skimming through
I'm probably going to love it. I've only heard the credits music and it already has me feelin a little
I think they often do it based on a pre-determined non-public ranking list made prior to the tournament. So it's at least slightly different from the way ECT & Seasons Beatings used to do it. I don't think it's better though, since it still gives the impression of manipulating the tournament once it's underway. Additionally, I feel that while you can use ranking lists to seed the tournament initially, all match ups from then on should be decided only by performance at the tournament.
I think it's mostly due to a desire in the Smash community to have fully-accurate ranking lists and maximally fair tournaments, but for 99% of players, the exact order of rankings is pretty much arbitrary.
Juggleguy and I had a long conversation about this stuff at Combo Breaker. He's one of the few Smash TOs that doesn't like reseeding.
Is there no option to turn off background music and keep the character hit effect sounds yet?
Would make for a better video when I can hear the character grunting.
Anyways, KATARINA ALVES. I want to see more combos but I also want to hear her "hahahaha" and "mooooiiii"
Bonchan vs Luffy team tournament in Germany. FFM Rumble. http://www.twitch.tv/fight_club_nrw
Katarina or Lucky Chloe
Master Milk
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haven't thought about a fighting game with splatoon out, this shit is too good
it might be july before i get the itch to push buttons again
it might be july before i get the itch to push buttons again
Kazumi :3
Parallax Scroll
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A guy who's kinda crappy at umvc3
Jin or Claudio
The game makes me want to get a Wii U, but I'll hold off. If I wasn't facing a job layoff- I might.
CountBlack
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Steve
JeTmAn81
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He seemed pretty good to me. Not top player level, but someone who knows what he's doing. Combos were fairly crispy.
Juicebox_FGC
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That's not what I mean. I yell at low- and intermediate- level players to try and play psychologically because it is necessary for improvement. Without that aspect you really can't stop a Bison from using HK or a Karate from using hop CD.
It's not about "you beat me because you didn't change it up". It's about my general goal of making FGC members play smarter and with more awareness, instead of just X-copying until they can't anymore.
Juicebox, help me out here :<
I've been working on getting better in that aspect, and it's paid off in Persona quite a bit. Most of the players who were on the good end I beat pretty consistently now, but when I play guys like Lord Knight or BananaKen, I end up getting a few games then they get a bead on me and I can't keep up orz. I mostly get shut down on my approach or they position themselves in ways where I can hang myself, and Idk what to be doing in those spots tbh. I try to play back and forth and look for the spots, but once they get conservative I fold.
I've been working on getting better in that aspect, and it's paid off in Persona quite a bit. Most of the players who were on the good end I beat pretty consistently now, but when I play guys like Lord Knight or BananaKen, I end up getting a few games then they get a bead on me and I can't keep up orz. I mostly get shut down on my approach or they position themselves in ways where I can hang myself, and Idk what to be doing in those spots tbh. I try to play back and forth and look for the spots, but once they get conservative I fold.
Juicebox_FGC
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This sounds like "my neutral, especially when trying to break someone's defensive play, is inconsistent or just straight up bad against great players."
Usually what that means is that you need more misdirection and hesitation. Try things like:
1) jump in, airdash away
2) run in, then block or jump back
3) walk forward without any intent of attacking
These are all subtle ways of trying to get an opponent to act, and are useful against people who spend their time waiting for you to hang yourself. Notice their reactions to these strategies and try to read accordingly.
It makes the most sense for Capcom to bring whatever build they will bring to E3. Carrying around multiple builds (that would have to be bug tested and what not) seems like a waste of time and energy.
Thanks. It's more inconsistent than bad on a normal day. It's just going from mid > high level is a rough transition because those guys adapt incredibly fast. That's more or less how I know if I'm fighting somebody good these days.
I also do all those things, I guess I should just think harder about how they're reacting to them. It's a weird position to be in.
I also do all those things, I guess I should just think harder about how they're reacting to them. It's a weird position to be in.
CountBlack
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Louffy won't stop whoopin on Bonchan til he switches characters
gawddamn
gawddamn
Juicebox_FGC
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Pretty much. Great players are often scouting Level 1 neutral tactics, so you have to bring a good Level 2/3 game or you'll never break their comfort zone.
Intermediate players can do Level 2/3 stuff on knockdowns, but they often haven't put in that work for neutral (because no one else has). I find that to be a defining characteristic of high-level play.