CosmicQueso
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The majority of people that owns a PS4 is unaware of that nor they visit NeoGAF or any video game forum.
LOL! So people just magically went from the x360 to the Ps4? Good to know. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
The majority of people that owns a PS4 is unaware of that nor they visit NeoGAF or any video game forum.
this is the first time a console generation is going to experience an incremental upgrade. when it's fully public we can't predict how the vast majority is going to react. but judging off of everything i've seen is pretty goddamn mixed.
Yea it's GAF. You're always going to have 2 extremes. That said a lot of the problems people had are addressed but people will find a new boogeyman simply because they don't like this concept. No one loses anything here
huh? the PC gaming market has always been different but complementary to the console gaming market.PC Engine CD-ROM2 had an incremental upgrade ... twice!
huh? the PC gaming market has always been different but complementary to the console gaming market.
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/50277106856370176
""Consoles run 2x or so better than equal PC hardware, but it isnt just API in the way, focus a single spec also matters.""
It doesn't make much sense comparing a GPU into a closed environment(PS4 NEO), to a PC GPU for the reason above.
By the way, the NEO GPU will be around 4TF, In comparison, the GTX Titan has 4.5TF; just imagine what NEO exclusive Games will look like... with this power in a closed environment !
LOL! So people just magically went from the x360 to the Ps4? Good to know. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
oh sorryPC Engine is the name of a console, not a PC
this is the first time a console generation is going to experience an incremental upgrade. when it's fully public we can't predict how the vast majority is going to react. but judging off of everything i've seen is pretty goddamn mixed.
Did I say that? It was more about marketing and the general media reception of Xbox One at first than that. The majority of people are unaware of technical details of consoles or the differencies between the same game across multiple platforms...
Did I say that? It was more about marketing and the general media reception of Xbox One at first than that. The majority of people are unaware of technical details of consoles or the differencies between the same game across multiple platforms...
Even if Microsoft or Nintendo released something that was even more powerful than the NEO people have already invested so much into the PS4 ecosystem that changing console mid-generation would be very very expensive.... Even myself having mostly physical games I still have a lot of downloadable games that I don't want to just immediately leave behind or be forced to re-buy on another platform just because the performance is better.
Sure when starting fresh it's a little different, but not as a mid-gen upgrade.
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/50277106856370176
""Consoles run 2x or so better than equal PC hardware, but it isnt just API in the way, focus a single spec also matters.""
It doesn't make much sense comparing a GPU into a closed environment(PS4 NEO), to a PC GPU for the reason above.
By the way, the NEO GPU will be around 4TF, In comparison, the GTX Titan has 4.5TF; just imagine what NEO exclusive Games will look like... with this power in a closed environment !
LOL! So people just magically went from the x360 to the Ps4? Good to know. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
If this comes out this fall that means I'll have owned my ps4 for 3 years. I'd normally be getting a slim version at that point so buying an upgraded system makes sense. It's not a large jump in specs but enough to make a difference. Plus, I'm planning on getting a 4K tv next Jan with my tax return money so this all falls into place for me.
Very excited.
You really think 51% of PS4 owners are regulars on videogame forums?
Why would you be leaving it behind. Theoretically if NX is more powerful than PS4K, can't you get an NX and still play all Playstation games on your PS4? There is no reason you cant have your old eco system AND the most powerful system (if power happens to be the draw for you).
LOL! So people just magically went from the x360 to the Ps4? Good to know. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
Even if Microsoft or Nintendo released something that was even more powerful than the NEO people have already invested so much into the PS4 ecosystem that changing console mid-generation would be very very expensive.... Even myself having mostly physical games I still have a lot of downloadable games that I don't want to just immediately leave behind or be forced to re-buy on another platform just because the performance is better.
Sure when starting fresh it's a little different, but not as a mid-gen upgrade.
I'd say that was true 5 to 10 years ago but today, information is everywhere. Kids, teens and adults are on reddit, forums, listen to podcasts, youtube, etc., and are much more informed about their technology. This isn't going to be some small sliver of users that know about this and the differences.
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/50277106856370176
""Consoles run 2x or so better than equal PC hardware, but it isnt just API in the way, focus a single spec also matters.""
It doesn't make much sense comparing a GPU into a closed environment(PS4 NEO), to a PC GPU for the reason above.
By the way, the NEO GPU will be around 4TF, In comparison, the GTX Titan has 4.5TF; just imagine what NEO exclusive Games will look like... with this power in a closed environment !
this is the first time a console generation is going to experience an incremental upgrade. when it's fully public we can't predict how the vast majority is going to react. but judging off of everything i've seen is pretty goddamn mixed.
i'm talking out all the reactions i've seen. gaf, other forums, youtube comments...that's the only way to gauge it for right now. i spoke with one friend in real life and he doesn't like it either.if your talking about the average ps4 consumer, he might not like the idea, but i doubt he will lose sleep over it or care after about 5 minutes of hearing the news, since i talked to your average cod, and halo gamers, some were on board, some said it sucks, and didn't care after a few minutes, only extreme hardcore gamers will let something so silly bother them.
the visual difference?Without examples of the visual difference the reaction is not worth much.
First up, we should tackle the issue of how reliable the leak is and by extension, whether the proposed spec is real or not. Up until very recently, exposure to 'PlayStation 4K' throughout the development community was limited. We have been sitting on a number of details awaiting a second source before going to press, but events have overtaken us somewhat - Sony is now openly sharing this specification with developers and while Giant Bomb beat us to the punch, we have access to the same documentation. There is no doubt - this is real. This is the new, more powerful PlayStation 4.
I've seen a lot of people mention 4K TVs... Are you all referring to being able to play UHD Blu-ray discs on the PS4K?I'm planning on getting a 4K tv next Jan with my tax return money so this all falls into place for me.
So many wrong things here...
First, this quote is bullshit. You never saw PS4 outperforming by twice an HD7850. Or even outperforming an HD7870.
Second, Nvidia flops aren't the same as AMD flops. You want to know what your games will look like ? Take a look at a R9 280x GPU.
I'm still hoping that they change the controller. Hate the DS4.
I will give Nintendo credit for having A/V, Component connections an option for Wii U.
Which makes me wonder will Nintendo leave it like that for NX?
Well.... PSVR is launching at the price of a console... if someone only has so many hardware dollars to go around what does the NX bring to the table?
Nintendo first party? Sure but how many of them are going to come at launch?
Between the PSVR/NEO and if Microsoft do anything, Nintendo should be pretty worried.
Correct that is why you still hear 'I don't want the XBox One because it requires always online' from people.The majority of people that owns a PS4 is unaware of that nor they visit NeoGAF or any video game forum.
In all this news....does anybody realize both the PS4 and XBO only have HDMI connections...
That was a slap in the face for all of those with standard def TV's!!!
And why is Sony and MS not pushing for games created with standard def in mind???
(I had a cousin just get an XBO for Christmas and his mother had to get him an HDTV a month later. Yea I know about HDMI/AV converters but still...)
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I will give Nintendo credit for having A/V, Component connections an option for Wii U.
Which makes me wonder will Nintendo leave it like that for NX?
I'm still skeptical about how much "more informed" they really are, definitely not to the level of people who visit this forum or GiantBomb or Digital Foundry or what have you.
They chose the prettier box on the shelf duh.
even though i kinda agree with you, sony exclusives really take a shit on any game running on a hd7850, maybe he's talking about if you code it to the metal.
i'm talking out all the reactions i've seen. gaf, other forums, youtube comments...that's the only way to gauge it for right now. i spoke with one friend in real life and he doesn't like it either.the visual difference?
Am I unreasonable to be bummed out about certain users potentially having 60fps vs my 30fps in online MP? I think that's pretty annoying.
Without examples of the visual difference the reaction is not worth much.
those that don't/won't like it may also give up console gaming.its obviously not for everyone, those that are interested in better hardware will buy it, those that don't won't like the idea will just play there vanilla ps4, and won't care or be bothered by ps4k, cause there is more important stuff in life then being bothered by a ps4 that will run games better.
This is like the worst case scenario, people thought that performance was shit for some PS4 games? Wait till they start shipping them with a "Neo" mode.
I already do this on PC (spend too much to get top performance).The master race shitting on the plebs. I see nothing wrong with this.
Am I unreasonable to be bummed out about certain users potentially having 60fps vs my 30fps in online MP? I think that's pretty annoying.