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Ken Bone overstays his welcome. Uses reddit handle which sh a trail of seedy comments

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jph139

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Ken Bone is a somewhat goofy looking dude using his five minutes in the spotlight to raise some cash for charities and joke around on the internet.

And he made a comment on a subreddit for pregnant porn using the term "beautiful human submarines."

Ken's alright in my book.
 
Seems pretty clear cut to me that it's not beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defence, which is what the jury had to decide on.

Is it self defence to physically attack someone who is following you around in an unpleasant, menacing and potentially provoking manner? No.

Is it self defence to shoot someone who is on top of you pounding your head with their fists, which has the very real potential to kill you within moments? Yes, regardless of how that situation came about.

Were the jury racist? Probably, considering some of the comments we heard from them afterwards, but they still came to the right conclusion in my opinion. Broken clock and so.
Please cite how you are aware that Martin, who in Poligaf you referred to as a "man", initiated contact with Zimmerman despite all accounts indicating he was attempt to flee from him. And despite Zimmerman's behavior sense then clearly indicating he has no issue assaulting other person without warrant.

And I again find it odd that you evoke Zimmerman's right to self defense from another person's fists while ignoring that person's right to self defense from his gun, which has a far greater lethal potential.

I also wonder if anyone would castigate a woman for defending herself while walking home at night alone from an armed and dangerous stranger who was pursuing her by car and then on foot for unknown reasons.
 
Just leave the guy alone. Who cares about his post history, he's not running for office or trying to act like he's morally superior to anyone else. Not everyone that gets 5 minutes of fame deserves a witch hunt.

This. Turning some off-color comments made by a random citizen into a CNN headline is the thing that strikes me as seedy here.
 
Ken Bone knew this would be his fate when he became meme-ified.

I just hope this nonsense doesn't completely destroy his personal life. You know, like losing his job and the like.
 

hoos30

Member
Yeah, the first clue was that he was an "undecided voter" at this late date in THIS election. Only a weirdo could claim that shit.
 
All this information and open communication on the internet, and we basically turn it into a cesspool of hot takes, memes, and digital vendettas against people we know fuck-all about.

The balance of good stuff to bad stuff is tipping towards bad, at least for me.
 

necrosis

Member
Is it self defence to physically attack someone who is following you around in an unpleasant, menacing and potentially provoking manner? No.

the way florida's stand your ground law is written, it can be

Is it self defence to shoot someone who is on top of you pounding your head with their fists, which has the very real potential to kill you within moments? Yes, regardless of how that situation came about.

this absolutely is not true. there's a very real possibility that zimmerman instigated the scuffle with trayvon based on his 911 call and there's nothing to refute it other than zimmerman's own account of things

if you attack someone because they're "suspicious" & black, end up getting the shit kicked out of you, and then murder someone as a consequence, it's unambiguously not self-defense

Were the jury racist? Probably, considering some of the comments we heard from them afterwards, but they still came to the right conclusion in my opinion. Broken clock and so.

this is gross

anyways, i don't really intend to derail the thread. not sure this level of scrutiny is called for, but i don't think it's unreasonable to be offended by some of ken's comments, this one in particular
 

The Beard

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All this information and open communication on the internet, and we basically turn it into a cesspool of hot takes, memes, and digital vendettas against people we know fuck-all about.

The balance of good stuff to bad stuff is tipping towards bad, at least for me.

Exactly.

If you compare the good/positive things K. Bone has said on his anonymous account to the "bad things", you'd quickly realize that he's a good/normal person. But no, let's crush this son of a bitch because he's an undecided voter, he looks at nude women on the internet, and he said one thing I don't really agree with.

This culture of trying to expose/ruin stranger's life's because you don't like something they said is fucked up beyond belief.
 

Mudcrab

Member
Yeah, the first clue was that he was an "undecided voter" at this late date in THIS election. Only a weirdo could claim that shit.

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Jombie

Member
Typical slimy Reddit shit and he strikes me as ignorant, but this is kind of unfair. He didn't intend on becoming an overnight meme.
 

Borgnine

MBA in pussy licensing and rights management
I'm sorry but that tweet about protecting his job as a Guess Who card makes all this worth it.
 

bobawesome

Member
Which makes Gawker tearing him down after building him up even more hypocritical. Build him up as a meme at his expense (weight, look), and then tear him down as a "bad" human being...ffs.

Am I supposed to believe that Gawker lacks integrity?

Having a Reddit account would qualify him as a creepy weirdo without even going through post history

Yeah, unlike us Gaffers who are cool, super successful dudes with sports cars, flowing beards, trophy wives, and seven-figure salaries.
 

Instro

Member
Stuff in the OP seems pretty normal/innocuous. I'm not sure I would bat an eye at any of that. Bit of a try hard story here if that's the worst stuff they can find in the guy in his post history.
 

samn

Member
Please cite how you are aware that Martin, who in Poligaf you referred to as a "man", initiated contact with Zimmerman despite all accounts indicating he was attempt to flee from him. And despite Zimmerman's behavior sense then clearly indicating he has no issue assaulting other person without warrant.

And I again find it odd that you evoke Zimmerman's right to self defense from another person's fists while ignoring that person's right to self defense from his gun, which has a far greater lethal potential.

I also wonder if anyone would castigate a woman for defending herself while walking home at night alone from an armed and dangerous stranger who was pursuing her by car and then on foot for unknown reasons.

I apologise for referring to him as a man, though it doesn't make much difference to that specific point - a 17 year old male can kill you by punching your head against concrete or tarmac.

the difference being that Zimmerman wasn't brandishing the gun or pointing it at him.

I never said or implied or thought that Martin initiated contact with Zimmerman.

I haven't 'castigated' anyone.

I don't blame Martin for reacting the way he did. He didn't deserve to die. That's different from saying a jury could come to a conclusion that Zimmerman acted unlawfully.
 

Cybit

FGC Waterboy
Exactly.

If you compare the good/positive things K. Bone has said on his anonymous account to the "bad things", you'd quickly realize that he's a good/normal person. But no, let's crush this son of a bitch because he's an undecided voter, he looks at nude women on the internet, and he said one thing I don't really agree with.

This culture of trying to expose/ruin stranger's life's because you don't like something they said is fucked up beyond belief.

Let's be honest - if he had said he was going to vote for Clinton during his AMA; I doubt Gawker even does this story. This turned into a leftist witch hunt because he hadn't chosen Clinton.

Spending 5 minutes on his Reddit account would show you that he's a normal, even somewhat left leaning dude. This is the left version of a 4chan "minority witch hunt"

It's hypocritical as fuck.

But hey 1 week from now no one else will care.

Except Ken Bone and his family.

Sigh.

It's the left doing to someone what alt-right folks do to women and minorities, but it's A-OK this time because he's not in our tribe.
 
This is why brief internet fame sucks.

He commented about Jennifer Lawrence's nude photos, which millions of other people commented on and looked at, including -- I'd estimate -- many people here.

And his feelings on Trayvon Martin roughly match that of the jury that exonerated George Zimmerman. I think pretty much everybody thinks that George Zimmerman is an asshole, and factually the courts stated he was acting in self-defense.

As far as I can tell here, Ken Bone is a normal fucking guy doing normal fucking things. He looked at celebrity nudes and he had an opinion about Zimmerman/Martin which isn't really contraversial. "WE MUST DESTROY HIM"
 

Opto

Banned
Like, think about all the stuff you've ever said, commented on, even liked. Then one day someone happens to film you doing something silly and it goes viral. Then everyone finds out you made a lewd comment once on an instagram photo.
 

ishibear

is a goddamn bear
Let's be honest - if he had said he was going to vote for Clinton during his AMA; I doubt Gawker even does this story. This turned into a leftist witch hunt because he hadn't chosen Clinton.



It's the left doing to someone what alt-right folks do to women and minorities, but it's A-OK this time because he's not in our tribe.

Why are you saying this is the Left's doing?
 

LionPride

Banned
I swear some of yall are making this bigger than it is. A dude who became a meme did an ama on his reddit account he constantly uses. People can look at someone's posts. People can do the same on GAF. No one dug up anything, someone had a curiosity about if he posted in the past, he did. I mean, damn it ain't that fucking serious.
 

norm9

Member
I swear some of yall are making this bigger than it is. A dude who became a meme did an ama on his reddit account he constantly uses. People can look at someone's posts. People can do the same on GAF. No one dug up anything, someone had a curiosity about if he posted in the past, he did. I mean, damn it ain't that fucking serious.

It's pretty serious to the dude being targeted though.
 

The Beard

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The One and Done™;220175734 said:
I love how revealing facts is "digging up the past"

There was no need to "reveal facts" about a random person who became internet famous because he's a goofy looking fat guy with a funny name. Especially when the comments ("facts") were tame as fuck by anyone's standards when it comes to anonymous online accounts, and then to frame him as a shitty/seedy person? It's 100% bullshit.
 
After reading the posts quoted a couple of posts above me, I kind of wish I had someone like Ken Bone as a teacher or something.
 

LionPride

Banned
There was no need to "reveal facts" about a random person who became internet famous because he's a goofy looking fat guy with a funny name. Especially when the comments ("facts") were tame as fuck by anyone's standards when it comes to anonymous online accounts, and then to frame him as a shitty/seedy person? It's 100% bullshit.
He is framed as seedy mainly for the phrase "I like her butthole" and admitting to committing a crime, a seedy thing. No one is targeting him, it's literally just "Interesting thing about a meme!", gets told to a media outlet, article is written, most people read it, chuckle, and move on.
 

The Beard

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He is framed as seedy mainly for the phrase "I like her butthole" and admitting to committing a crime, a seedy thing. No one is targeting him, it's literally just "Interesting thing about a meme!", gets told to a media outlet, article is written, most people read it, chuckle, and move on.

"I saw her butthole. I liked it." Seems like he was having a little fun and being cheeky. Like a ton of Gaffers got during that one rimjob thread, including mods.

Driving without car insurance is hardly a seedy crime IMO.
 

Trey

Member
I swear some of yall are making this bigger than it is. A dude who became a meme did an ama on his reddit account he constantly uses. People can look at someone's posts. People can do the same on GAF. No one dug up anything, someone had a curiosity about if he posted in the past, he did. I mean, damn it ain't that fucking serious.

"Oh the outrage!"

There is no outrage.
 

CHC

Member
Yeah, the first clue was that he was an "undecided voter" at this late date in THIS election. Only a weirdo could claim that shit.

First clue to what? None of his past posts condone or condemn Trump or Clinton. I'd even say that when talking about most issues he argues both sides. He's a pretty "neutral" guy overall, considering how opinionated many people's online posts can get.

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Ken Bone is alright in my books.

He really didn't owe anyone that apology or clarification, but I think it's nice that he went that direction. There's no story here, with regards to him being some duplicitous hatemonger or creep or whatever people want to say he is. He is a straight-up regular guy, all his posts indicate that.
 

JustenP88

I earned 100 Gamerscore™ for collecting 300 widgets and thereby created Trump's America
"Regular dude is regular"

"Fuck that guy"

This is the weirdest bit of the whole "Ken Bone Saga" to me.
 

Tansut

Member
So I shared one of those shitty articles earlier on Facebook and I've felt pretty bad about it ever since. I ended up writing this word vomit to try and make up for it and since I already wrote it there I might as well share it here:

Earlier today I participated in hypocrisy, as I am wont to do. I shared that shitty post about Ken Bone and his less than perfect posting history on Reddit. I was terribly wrong to do so.

At the time it seemed like a harmless idea; it doubled for a good joke and also a chance to numb my own perpetual insecurities by mocking someone I don't know even in the slightest. But as someone who has seen how horrible the Internet dogpile can be when it finds a person to shame or mock or ridicule, how it can utterly destroy a person's life, I can't believe I thought it was okay.
But that's what we do. We compartmentalize people and put them into boxes, because that's easier for us. Life is difficult enough as it is, so it makes us feel better to have people to love, people to hate, and so on. We reduce people into easy to process terms like good and bad, instead of the intensely complex creatures we really are.

And so we come to Ken Bone. He had the gall to ask a question at a debate which led to the Internet, the ever insatiable person consumption machine, to deify him into some sort of dorky hero. Of course, the only thing people love more than a hero is watching a hero fall. After a perusal of his Reddit history, sites cherry picked the worst stuff they could find and they had their next clickbait story.

Yes, he said and did some stuff that's less than admirable, lewd even. He's been discovered to have kinks and fetishes. But literally all of us, ALL OF US, are guilty of all those sins; we just have the good fortune to be able to remain anonymous nobodies. On a scale from "it's fucking nothing" to "heinous scandal", Bone's comments and actions barely register.
But trying to understand Bone, or anybody, in any shade of gray isn't something we seem to allow for. We'll gladly ignore him putting his iconic sweater up for auction for charity, or that in other Reddit comments he admirably defended a rape victim against some pretty horrible comments. That wouldn't compute for us since now we have to ostracize and hate him. He's either awesome or he's awful. Adorable or abhorrent. Hero or villain.

Less than a week after we put him on a pedestal we're ready to burn him at the stake. What the fuck, man? Who do we think we are? How do we think we're any better than him? How is this good for us or him?

It certainly can't be that great for him, or his family or friends or future employers or anyone he knows. Because now he's that guy. The weirdo. The gross geek.
It certainly can't be good for us either. We've essentially exiled the guy instead of trying to do anything constructive. Seriously, go through his Reddit history, tell me what you see other than an imperfect left-leaning Redditor. Instead of trying to be inclusive or help a potential ally be a better person, we'd rather publicly hang him and be done with him.

But the truth is.... He's you. He's me. He's us. And we hate him for his ugly traits because we hate that part of ourselves. We loathe those parts that are anything less than pristine or perfect, and he was the current easy target. In the process of grandstanding and feeling better about ourselves, we became the monster that we want him to be.
So though you'll never read this, I want to say I'm sorry for what part I took in the public execution of your character, Mr. Bone. For what it's worth I hope to do better from now on.
 

bozeman

Member
him being unable to decide between trump and hillary is more egregious than most of his comments (a notable exception being the comment where he attempts to defend george zimmerman)

fuck this guy

Yeah, the first clue was that he was an "undecided voter" at this late date in THIS election. Only a weirdo could claim that shit.

I mean he was an undecided vote, so not really surprised if a few comments are mildly un-PC



He said on Kimmel that the reason he's undecided is because he works in the coal industry and thinks Trump would be more friendly towards coal. He admitted it would be a purely selfish vote and that he was concerned a Trump presidency would dial back social progress and that a Clinton presidency would be better for the overall community. So can we not give him shit for being undecided because he's taking a moment to reflect on his own self interest and the decision that doing the right thing could be very bad for him personally in regards to his well being and career?
 

rothgar

Member
When I look in the mirror, all I see is Ken Bone looking back at me.

Seriously, I had already lost respect for 40% of Americans voting for Trump, so Ken did not turn out as bad.
 
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