I'd also kill for a (cheap) shifter that easily enough switches to dual-throw (apparently the G25 one did this) for some sequential love in Outrun C2C.You ham-fisted monkey-pawed people need to learn how to caress a shifter delicately into place, rather than grabbing it and slamming it wherever it will fit
(Seriously though a stronger neutral / return spring would be a godsend!).
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You ham-fisted monkey-pawed people need to learn how to caress a shifter delicately into place, rather than grabbing it and slamming it wherever it will fit
(Seriously though a stronger neutral / return spring would be a godsend!).
Does it have one at all? That was my biggest gripe with my G27 and ultimately why I sold it and went the Fanatec route* (and still had to extensively mod THAT shifter to get a good feel)
*that and PC/PS3/XB360 all-in-one support, of course. Ah... good days.
Yeah, this looks to have the same internals as the G27 which means all the G29 does is add some more buttons and removes the shifter. It has to be cheaper than the G27.
The best configuration would be a Fanatec CSW v2 with Rim + Clubsport Pedals V2 +Clubsport Shifter v1.5 and it would work with pCARS on PS4.
Thank you very much for that. That looks like exactly what I want. If I can get it all for under $1000 I'll be very happy
Logitech had their shot with the G29 but they have been bested by Saitek.
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Wax Free Vanilla
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Where does this new (?) seperate G27 shifter come into play? Will Logitech introduce a new cheaper shifterless G27 package for PC users? Is it a G27 PS4 enabler?
There's no technical reason why the PS4 can't support the G27 already, shifter and all. I would assume they will continue to offer the G27 after the G29 launch until production winds down and stocks are exhausted. At which point they'll drop it and stay with a single G29 sku.
I doubt the new shifter will be compatible with the G27, even if it's possible from a technical perspective. If the FFB rumours are true, the new shifter provides a genuine incentive to upgrade from a G27.
What a colossal fuck-up and missed opportunity.
a. not having PC support on the PS wheel
b. not releasing one wheel that does Xbox, Playstation and PC all-in-one.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
So G29 won't support PC?? ughhhhhh!!
soundscream
Member
Way over priced.
Here's the updated chart of supported wheels in Project Cars.
What do you reckon the actual price will be?
What do you reckon the actual price will be?
It'll obviously vary from region to region, but if it's, say, $450 here in Australia (which I think would be about right) I'd expect to pay around $300-350AUD.
So identical wheels for both platforms? Man I would extra if the same wheel just worked for both platforms, so damn stupid and annoying.
Fried Food
Banned
Sucks that it can't be used cross platform. Guess I'll continue my trend of not playing racing games on my XONE
That's exactly what's happening, a wheel working on both platforms would actually get me to play some Forza.
Fanatec says hello for the low low price of ($X,XXX)
Yeah about 1000-1500 sadly :s.
I wonder why the Xbone wheel version doesn't have the shift lights on it? Especially as that's the one that is being advertised as PC compatible (although they both are).
On the face of it if they're both compatible with the PC then the PS version is the clear winner if only for the extra buttons.
Urghh. Thank you! Finally put those silly no-pc rumours to rest.
Way too low for AUD I think. RRP will be ~649 and initial asking price will be 450-500. After stock levels pick up it'll drop to around 400 over a few months.
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G29 now listed on AU Logitech site for $499 rrp. G27 is listed as $579 rrp which seems like odd compared the the U.S. rrps of $299 and $399 for the G27 and G29 respectively.
drugstore_cowboy
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I wonder why the Xbone wheel version doesn't have the shift lights on it? Especially as that's the one that is being advertised as PC compatible (although they both are).
On the face of it if they're both compatible with the PC then the PS version is the clear winner if only for the extra buttons.
Probably due to lights not functioning on any Xbox games. You'd get people moaning the wheels were faulty or some shit. Could even be licencing as it just looks bad to have a feature that cannot function on an official wheel.
gutterboy44
Member
Seeing as the shifter is not the magic "security chip" I was hoping for, I think I can finally abandon all hope of ever playing a racing sim on my PS4. Oh well, I am not spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars to replace a G27 in perfect working condition and moded pedals.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Lol, if they don't offer legacy support, then they should have just stayed away.
Disgusting wheel and price.
Disgusting wheel and price.
I've not quite abandoned all hope, as I still think that cheeky G27 support will slip in (and only the G27). If not though, yeah that's PS4 racers out of the question for me. That's cool though, I put my wheel money towards a PC upgrade and left this forced obsolescence behind me.
I expect G25/27 and probably Driving Force GT support to come along with the G29 (should game devs bother to support them). Just a matter of when.
gutterboy44
Member
Exactly. I much rather spend the money on Oculus Rift or Vive and a new rig to run VR for iRacing, AC, and ProjectCARS and play all that with a G27 then spend probably the same amount of money to make a switch to a fanatec setup. I think VR sim racing is going to be the biggest immersion jump since FFB wheels first hit the market.
Hear hear! Same here!
I think i am abandoning the console....
The future is not yet clear though. Patience......
Yeah, really disappointed in the price after the rumors of sub-200 price (which to be honest would have been quite low even with the lack of a shifter). Here's to hoping for DFGT/G27 support for PS4, but I'm really not sure whether to expect it ever happening.
The XB1 wheels seems quite a bit more limited with the lack of shift lights, buttons and manettino, but on the other hand that's simply because of MS's licensing rules (as is the lack of multiplatform console support).
The XB1 wheels seems quite a bit more limited with the lack of shift lights, buttons and manettino, but on the other hand that's simply because of MS's licensing rules (as is the lack of multiplatform console support).
MisterJoynt
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$499 CAD really does make this a far tougher choice.
KillerSloth
Banned
Here's the updated chart of supported wheels in Project Cars.
What do you reckon the actual price will be?
Why is wheel support so limited on xbox? It was the same last gen when I had a 360, ps3 had way more wheels supported. Peripheral support in general was much worse on xbox.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Ha, good thing the Thrustmaster order hasn't been processed yet, still have time to cancel it if I want to.
Help me wheel-GAF! Thrustmaster TX is going to be £221, Logitech is £300 RRP. If I want to go manual gearbox with clutch the Thrustmaster will end up costing me more overall after buying the pedals and the shifter but I might be able to live with it if it's likely to be a better wheel.
Help me wheel-GAF! Thrustmaster TX is going to be £221, Logitech is £300 RRP. If I want to go manual gearbox with clutch the Thrustmaster will end up costing me more overall after buying the pedals and the shifter but I might be able to live with it if it's likely to be a better wheel.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Well the Logitech pedal set will no doubt be better than Thrustmaster's and has a clutch ready for H shifting.
The actual base itself? If it's a rebranded G27 the TX is superior but has a worse stock rim. Actually...that's just a guess but I dont like it much.
G29 sounds more up your alley but you can't go wrong with the TX at that price.
The actual base itself? If it's a rebranded G27 the TX is superior but has a worse stock rim. Actually...that's just a guess but I dont like it much.
G29 sounds more up your alley but you can't go wrong with the TX at that price.
I scored on a mad catz pro racing wheel for xbox one for $100. The original owner thought it was broken but it just needed to be updated and calibrated. I flipped it for $300 and bought a thrustmaster tx with the wheel stand pro and GTE wheel add on for $250. I wanted the tx for pc support since the mad catz didn't have pc drivers yet. This is my first driving set up and I'm loving it.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Cheers, by better base I guess you're talking about force feedback?
the TX won't be in stock for another week so I've got a few days of twisting and turning over this :/
Wouldn't be a problem if the wheel was coming out soon, but September...man...
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Yeah pretty much so.
Thrustmaster TX doesn't scream build quality but in your hands it feels and responds better than the older Logitechs.
Thrustmaster TX doesn't scream build quality but in your hands it feels and responds better than the older Logitechs.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Thanks, I'll be to-ing and fro-ing over whether to cancel my order for the next week but I think I'll stick with the Thrustmaster in the end. Whichever wheel I get I know I'll wonder whether I made the right choice but I think I'd rather have the extra two or three months of racing if there isn't going to be a huge difference between them.
Okay missed that, the G29 is coming in september? Where can I find that? (source)
Or are you referring to the TX being out of stock?
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I paid 200 for the entire G27 set (local electronics store), while I really like it I would advice everyone that is looking for a wheel to look into the products of the competition. Not only would I feel ripped of by the price of the G29 but there is also the trust issue when (if) new consoles come around and Logitech might pull the same shit as they did here.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/...920-racing-wheels-coming-to-ps4-and-xbox-one/
Looks like the G29 is coming in July, G920 in the autumn, probably around the time Forza comes out.
That's the G25 shifter, the G27 was H-gate only.
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