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[Boke1879]

That actually makes a lot of sense. I hope it's true.

Power is probably the last reason why PS4 is winning the console war. This narrative really only exists on forums.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Power and all that, sure whatever. I´ll bite.

What i do not buy at all, is an announcement "soon" and then the launch being in fall 2017. At least over a year. No way that´s happening. Shit, the actual new gen Xbox One was announced 6 months before release.

 

[azertydu91]

The floodgates of the hardware rumors really opened today, huh?

I'm doubtful, my gut tells me the two systems will be fairly comparable. It seems like everyone wants to think the XB1+ will be stronger than the PS4K simply to pull a 180 on the power gap this gen.

As long as both of the systems are powerful and comparable, I'll be happy.

What bothers me is that no matter how powerful the + models will be they'll still be held back by the ps4/X1 versions of their games.

 

[El_Chino]

Cheaer option of what? The regular xbox one? What if you got it already?

Some people haven't bought an Xbox one because they're waiting for the slim. It could appeal to the casual gamer who don't care about having the most power.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Well that would be something.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

The Xbox One-Two, lol. I love that they were using this as a code name.

Xbox One-Two-Body-Upper!

 

[Ephemeris]

i'll bite either way

 

[jabberwocker]

My feelings on these half step consoles...

 

[cyberheater]

4 times more powerful should make it better that Neo but not by much .

But still better then Neo which is all that matters.

 

[Omni]

Well... if we're being honest I think we all expected MS to do something in order to make sure that their console isn't so far behind in terms of power again.

4x seems like a lot - mid-gen - though. But who knows.

 

[kenta]

Show me the price, though...

 

[SolidSnakex]

So Microsoft is going to announce an upgraded Xbox One at E3 that won't be available until late next year? How does that sound like a good idea to anyone at MS?

 

[_woLf]

just call it the ps5

just call it the xbox 2....3? 4? NEXTBOX?

i really do not like how these are being talked about like a mid-life upgrade and not a brand new fucking console generation

 

[thuway]

Neo is rumored to launch this year actually. Possibly around November. It seemed MS was caught off guard by this.

Also I doubt it'll be 6 Teraflops, but we'll see.

If Microsoft goes all in on Vega- than it could be a very real possiblity.

 

[TONX]

Behold the Xbox 6.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

this is exactly how the first rumors started for 1 and 4. that the xbox would be much more powerful

 

[GhostTrick]

Jesus Christ, even my 980Ti isn't 6 teraflops.

Orange and Apples here. You must compare with AMD's offering. Fury X is 8Tflops, Fury is 7Tflops. 980ti is comparable to Fury X.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

Man, this is starting to get exciting.

 

[Euron]

Wait so it'll be 4 times as powerful as the Xbox One yet still have the Xbox One branding and games will come on Xbox One discs? So many people are going to be confused by this.

 

[oldergamer]

So if this is true, I'm assuming this is when using HBM memory which seems more inline with what they were doing in regards to embedded memory. I know DX10 helps position MS in a place where they could handle annual hardware revisions.

The real question is Sony locked out from using a high bandwidth architecture without breaking forward compatibility?

 

[dugdug]

Well duh! This isn't official from MS you know.

Just having fun.

 

[entremet]

this is exactly how the first rumors started for 1 and 4. that the xbox would be much more powerful

Well no more Mattrick or Kinect, so it's a huge difference.

 

[RealityCheque]

Laying waste to the ps4k. Scorpio rules all!

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Some people haven't bought an Xbox one because they're waiting for the slim. It could appeal to the casual gamer who don't care about having the most power.

That's understood. I dont think it makes sense if you got one though.

 

[Alpha Phoenix]

Power is probably the last reason why PS4 is winning the console war. This narrative really only exists on forums.

Haha, fair point, man. Can't say you're wrong.

 

[El_Chino]

Vega+Zen seems more and more likely.

 

[JaggedSac]

And Jason Schreier just tweeted he heard about 5-6 TF target from one source as well. Sucker is gonna be powerful.

Oh shit. I wasn't really taking Gies seriously, but Schreier knows his shit.

 

[Lulubop]

4 times more powerful should make it better that Neo but not by much .
That is of course if they don't get it to 6tflpos .

Seems to be a good amount more, much more than the gap now. But damn yall already out here doing damage control

 

[SneakersSO]

Power is probably the last reason why PS4 is winning the console war. This narrative really only exists on forums.

Yuppppp. Considering MS just announced today they are exiting the phone business, them reading the markets they compete in isn't exactly their strongest suit.

 

[Boke1879]

just call it the ps5

just call it the xbox 2....3? 4? NEXTBOX?

i really do not like how these are being talked about like a mid-life upgrade and not a brand new fucking console generation

Because it's not. You're hardly going to see a huge jump in graphics right now. this is just to keep in you in an ecosystem while giving you some bells and whistles to enjoy.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

So will this better Xbox not be compatible with regular Xbox One games or what?

 

[YuriLowell]

But can it run Crysis?

 

[Mory Dunz]

wow. dang so corect me if I'm wrong:

PS4 >Oculus>> NEo<><NX>Dreamcast><<Xbox1> Scorpion<Wii U>PS4k

 

[Unknown?]

Sounds like they were caught off guard again by Sony and now they're scrambling to match them but will be late.

 

[Sulik2]

6 TFLOPs is a new console gen. Phil Spencer righting the ship here. And with x86 full backwards compatibility is guaranteed. I can't wait to see what they have for this beast of a machine if this rumor is real.

Sounds like they were caught off guard again by Sony and now they're scrambling to match them but will be late.

You don't have a next gen console ready for production in Fall 2017 two months after Neo rumors start. You move up announcement time table because of the Neo, but releasing a console with next-gen power is a three year process. This was started the day Phil took over I bet.

 

[gaming_noob]

So happy if true. I will gladly sell my Xbone soon.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

That price though...

 

[Kaako]

But still better then Neo which is all that matters.

Even if it's within 10-20% more powerful than the NEO, I still don't see MS putting much dents in Sony's sales to be perfectly honest. This generation is beyond power wars at this point.

 

[Windforce]

Power is probably the last reason why PS4 is winning the console war. This narrative really only exists on forums.

I agree. PS4 being more powerful isn't why it's winning.

 

[Griss]

Three reasons for them to do this:

1) Be the 'best console for VR' - this could be a big deal, and it's achievable for them with Rift support.

2) Be the 'best place to play multiplats' - this is currently the PS4, and it's killing them, because we live in a world where exclusives just don't matter a damn any more. Wherever is the best place to play the multiplats is the place to be.

3) With their exclusives now going to PC as well, they need to be closer to PC-level power to be able to maintain the illusion that Xbox is as good a place to play those games. The XB1 as it stands could not do that.

It's a solid plan to fight the PS4's dominance. And being the stronger console did, imo, do a lot for the PS4.

 

[oldergamer]

Haha, fair point, man. Can't say you're wrong.

It's both marketing narrative and hardware that caused PS4 to jump out to a big lead. MS made too many mistakes in the messaging, and sony countered.

 

[Mooreberg]

So Microsoft is going to announce an upgraded Xbox One at E3 that won't be available until late next year? How does that sound like a good idea to anyone at MS?

And Nintendo will not be showing hardware that is supposed to be out ten months from now. This is going to be one of the most entertaining E3's ever, but not for the right reasons.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

wow. dang so corect me if I'm wrong:

PS4 >Oculus>> NEo<><NX>Dreamcast><<Xbox1> Scorpion<Wii U>PS4k

I don't even know what to correct.

 

[JaggedSac]

Well... if we're being honest I think we all expected MS to do something in order to make sure that their console isn't so far behind in terms of power again.

4x seems like a lot - mid-gen - though. But who knows.

He said he wouldn't consider it a 1.5, lol

 

[Nirolak]

So will this better Xbox not be compatible with regular Xbox One games or what?

It's aiming for full compatibility.

 

[xxracerxx]

wow. dang so corect me if I'm wrong:

PS4 >Oculus>> NEo<><NX>Dreamcast><<Xbox1> Scorpion<Wii U>PS4k

What the hell does this even mean?

 

[Ricky_R]

Interesting turn of events.

 

[etta]

From the other thread:

Interesting how they said they decided to announce Scorpio this year instead of the next so as to have something against the PS4 Neo.

Originally, Microsoft had no plans to announce Scorpio in 2016, preferring to wait until next year, possibly at their own event prior to E3. This would be in keeping with the company's existing precedent for new hardware launches. This was timed to combat expected plans by Sony to announce and launch the Neo in 2017. However, after GDC, evidence industry-wide has indicated that Sony's timetable for the Neo either has accelerated or was always intended for this Fall. Because of this and other factors, Microsoft is feeling pressure to announce both its new, smaller Xbox One console and the upgraded Scorpio — colloquially referred to internally as Xbox One-Two — at this year's E3, or a last-minute event just prior to the LA convention.

Xbox One Two??
Based ekim.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Well no more Mattrick or Kinect, so it's a huge difference.

well we had those rumors all the way up until the reveal of the ps4 almost I feel. It was a long 7 or 8 months of rumors that xbox would be more powerful, I think everyone was counting on it then apparently MS went with the kinect side

 

[DeepEnigma]

It will be 4x the Xbox One, not the PS4.

4x the Xbox One is only 5.28TF, not 6.

The Neo rumors were also 2.3x the PS4 or 4.23TF, so where are they (he) pulling these numbers?

Seems like she padding and shaving.