If this all pans out, it could possibly force Sony to reevaluate performance parameters for Neo. Should be a very interesting development.
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If this all pans out, it could possibly force Sony to reevaluate performance parameters for Neo. Should be a very interesting development.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Well then...
SneakersSO
Member
Because it isn't next-gen. Its still an incremental console. The big jump in power is probably for native Oculus Rift support.
Night Angel
Member
FTFY
They won't screw the XBOne owners like a real new gen would, and same for the Neo. So we're looking at an incremental iteration that will play the same games, but better (and have marketing rely on that to push the new hardware).
Though I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now they start anouncing new-hardware-specific games.
They'll need to go modular very fast (as in, replaceable parts instead or recycling the whole system) or they'll end up clearly losing to PC.
A generational leap at 4 years is a little rushed in my opinion, but as long as the XBO can play the same games as the 'new' console it will be fine.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Because they both doing different things?
Seems MS are trying to recapture mindshare by sheer brute force of superior hardware.
That's kinda cool, but also missing the point of why the Xbox One stalled in the first place. Power was only really one part of the equation. Sony went for the hearts and minds angle and it paid off enormously.
Better hardware isn't going to matter if gamers don't really trust Microsoft again yet.
That's kinda cool, but also missing the point of why the Xbox One stalled in the first place. Power was only really one part of the equation. Sony went for the hearts and minds angle and it paid off enormously.
Better hardware isn't going to matter if gamers don't really trust Microsoft again yet.
He even alluded to space for "secret sauce." During those halcyon days.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah the way I see it once you upped the res for ps4/X1 games to 4K then what ?
Also, I don't think power has been the main reason over Ps4 wins maybe and more the catastrophic reveal of the Xbox.
Maybe I'm wrong but to this day I still meet people who plays and still think Xbox can't play used games.
Even though I'm not really for incremential updates for consoles I can understand why they do that but the man problem is will we really uses the all the power of those new consoles considering the games will still have to be played n the regular models?
gundamkyoukai
Member
Coolbgdog12
Member
but can it run Uncharted 4?
LurkFish17
Member
Did he?
Darryl M R
Member
If Xbox doesn't rebrand this as a new console I still think it will hurt their sales. The majority of console gamers are on PS4 and team Sony. Why would I want to get the Xbox 1.5 when I can get the PS4.5? So much good will has been earned with the PS4.
It certainly doesn't hurt. Doubt they would price themselves terribly again.
I can only say
This, it's gonna be fun
I pretty much moved 99% of my gaming time to PC so i don't really care that much anymore, wich helps
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
So then what is your explanation for how well the PS2 sold? Yes, performance and better hardware are additional excuses for why the PS4 is selling better now, but I wager that Sony's Playstation is simply the more popular item worldwide, which, even when faced by a more powerful Xbox, will still outsell it because it's the preferred brand.
Fantastic news if true. 
Not sure that the end of 2017 is a such a good time to launch though as many people will have already bought the Xbox One, PS4 & Neo this generation and there will already be "well informed" rumours of the the PS5 floating around.
It'll still be worth a look though if they manage to match the launch prices of the PS4 and Xbox One.
Not sure that the end of 2017 is a such a good time to launch though as many people will have already bought the Xbox One, PS4 & Neo this generation and there will already be "well informed" rumours of the the PS5 floating around.
It'll still be worth a look though if they manage to match the launch prices of the PS4 and Xbox One.
They're many reasons , and power is one of them. Casuals look at a few things
What's the price and how good is my next dude bro shooter gonna look and perform . If the rumors are true this will be very big
They going in hard with this facebook/Oculus partnership huh?
Better than beating that AR drum which seemed waaaaaaaays off still.
YuriLowell
Member
I for one cant wait for Ryse 1.5.
FF Seraphim
Member
This doesn't make sense to announce it at this years E3 at all. Why the hell would someone buy a xb1 if they know a newer better one is right around the corner. Also the PS4 Neo is supposed to be released this year right? MS would be crazy to give Sony such a head start.
dugdug
Banned
That's only part of the reason why PS4 is beating XB1, though. Coming out with a more powerful box doesn't negate consumer feelings towards MS, their smaller library, attitude towards indies, etc...
Like, yeah, all of those have improved a little over time, but, there's still plenty of reason to not choose an MS console. They're going to have to show more than just higher numbers for people to jump ship. It will help, sure, but, there's still plenty of ground to cover.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Best Buy Bundle with Rare Replay and two trilogy collections and a 50 dollar gift card essentially.
It do some damage, I'm surprised Microsoft is letting Sony have a year like window for the Neo.
Especially since they had a big lead over the PS3 when it launched and this gen they launched the same time as Sony.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
You are missing the point. It will be more powerful. That is the main point. Something Xbox fans can lord over PS fans. Sales are not relevant.
In the normal console gen life cycle of 4-5 years?
Priiiiiiiice being the number one reason to start with. Then shitty introduction, then power.
It won't force them to do anything because no matter what the baseline will be the OG PS4 and Xbox. So Scorpio having all that power really makes no sense to me right now. It only makes sense if they want to just say they are more powerful.
You have people right now hating the idea of the iterative updates simply because they feel it's to soon. Not to mention if it launches fall next year. Sony is still in the lead. PS4's will still be selling, and giving the PS4Neo an essential head start will still keep them in 2nd place.
Xbox One: Final Form 100% Frieza
PS4: Super Saiyan Goku
PS4.5: Piccolo after he merged with Kami
Xbox Scorpio: Vegeta after coming out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Mass Effect
Member
something's off here...
It says target......which means it's not even final....this could all change easily due to price point.
LoveCake
Member
As the games will have to work on the current Xbox One I will carry on with what I have got now and just buy a Xbox Two (Ninth Generation) when that comes out, I'm not going to fall into this trap at all.
I know Microsoft and Sony said that the Eight Generation wouldn't be as long as the last but four/five years is ridiculous.
I know Microsoft and Sony said that the Eight Generation wouldn't be as long as the last but four/five years is ridiculous.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Actually do we even know that the Neo dev kits are final retail clock speeds/specs?
What would the GPU at 911Mhz have to be bumped to for 5-6TF?
If Polaris based then they are are said to start at a clock of 1.2Ghz?
What would the GPU at 911Mhz have to be bumped to for 5-6TF?
If Polaris based then they are are said to start at a clock of 1.2Ghz?
ninjablade
Banned
damn, this will make me skip ps4 neo and get the new xbox. ill just keep my ps4.
This day sure has been a wild one.
*E3 hype intensifies*
MS has lost this gen. What's the point of arriving day and date with a similar machine to the PS4k/Neo? It would have no effect.
On the other hand, introducing a console that might actually be able to do games at 4k/30fps (while the PS4k will not) would be a massive selling point for them - something they just don't currently have.
Better to wait a year and fire live ammo than arrive on time firing blanks.
Exactly what I'm thinking. I've been considering buying a Neo and PSVR, now that plan is on indefinite hold until we find out MS's plans. If I'm MS, that's exactly what I want consumers to be doing.