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[Elixist]

Aw shit

Make a $399 Kinectless SKU and I'm down in a year or so.

same.

 

[erpg]

Douche move by Jonathan Liedtke, not protecting any personal info in that email.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Not required, but still bundled?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I think what consumers want from Microsoft is just a more powerful 360.

edit: If I am reading it right you just might not need to have it plugged in all the time?

I think that's exactly what consumers want. The Xbox 360 was pretty awesome aside from a few things. Make a better Xbox 360 and that will be pretty awesome, too.

 

[xxracerxx]

I can almost hear the worried expressions your faces make.

God, I hate console launches.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'd be thrilled if they do.

 

[Dabanton]

I see no reason to remove it really.

Would be a dumb decision.

 

[famousmortimer]

I can almost hear the worried expressions your faces make.

Please. If they drop the kinect it means I'll buy one. I'm happy about this. But I don't see how it makes it more attractive overall if they are the same price with a shittier machine.

 

[nataku]

MS really is just flailing around at this point.

I'm fully expecting them to announce a second SKU without kinect for $399. At this point, why the hell not? They've backtracked on everything else. They really do need new management to give the company some vision.

 

[Sendou]

What they would be left with is the same box as a PS4, but less powerful.


How is that a winner?

Remember when PS3 was more powerful than 360? Fun times.

 

[freenudemacusers]

God, I hate console launches.

nah just sit back and grab some popcorn

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Make it happen

 

[Sky Chief]

Just redesign the whole console at this point

 

[DoctorZ]

The point are the exclusives, son. I need to play Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3 and more.

If you need to play KI than you have bigger issues than deciding which console to choose.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

What they would be left with is the same box as a PS4, but less powerful.


How is that a winner?

Well, except for the Azure/dedicated servers.

But yeah, you're right. Kinect is a selling point and it's actually good this time round. I say keep it in.

 

[Froli]

$349 - $399 please lol

 

[nelsonroyale]

If this is the case...MS is being incredibly reactive. pretty hilarious. Still same price as PS4 plus considerably weaker, gives virtually no advantages to the Xbone. I can't see them doing this. Basically everything they showed at the reveal as key to the system would seem like a bit of sham...

 

[flyingmonkeywhoa]

This pretty much had to be done sooner or later. And they're gonna release a Kinect 2 SKU soon enough.

 

[popeutlal]

What if: MS undercuts Sony by lowering the Xbone price less than $399?¿

 

[Chris R]

Hardly too late to backpedal on Kinect. I mean how many games still use Sixaxis today on the PS3? First gen games will be Kinect heavy and then they won't be unless they are Kinect required experiences.

 

[SRTtoZ]

So in other words:

You must buy Kinect. You don't have to use it.

No thanks.

 

[iqubal]

If they bundle it with a Zune and OEM version of Windows 8, I'm all in.

 

[warthog]

Haha, pretty pathetic how they're crawling back.

And it doesn't change my decision of going for PS4 in any way.

 

[TAJ]

Wow Microsoft back tracking on all these features is insane. No clear vision

They have a vision. It's just nightmarish, and thankfully unpalatable for most.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Kinda funny if this isn't true...Microsoft can't win. Now they're going to have to go out there and say: "Sorry, yes, Kinect is mandatory and will come with every Xbox One."

 

[Guevara]

What if: MS undercuts Sony by lowering the Xbone price less than $399?¿

Then this will be a great gen for consumers.

 

[stktt]

What they would be left with is the same box as a PS4, but less powerful.


How is that a winner?

Video games. Those things you play on a console.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Remember when PS3 was more powerful than 360? Fun times.

Lol. That's not even comparable.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Please. If they drop the kinect it means I'll buy one. I'm happy about this. But I don't see how it makes it more attractive overall if they are the same price with a shittier machine.

There's a difference between dropping the kinect from the box and Just dropping the always on forced requirement.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Kinect is part of MS strategy, is more than just a few policies that can be switched back, Probably whole OS features and games would have to be changed to allow this.

 

[Karak]

I hope they don't do this. But didn't someone in congress try to put a bill through baout the Kinect too? It just seems like such a bad time for MS especially cause the Kinect has some cool stuff but...

 

[nib95]

Can we expect a non Kinect bundle then? $399 and no Kinect and caching!

 

[PlanetSmasher]

What if: MS undercuts Sony by lowering the Xbone price less than $399?¿

If they do that, then we're in for an exact repeat of this gen, just with a much weaker Sony going into it. It'd probably be a bloodbath. =/

 

[derFeef]

I don't think it's true. even if, still buying Kinect SKU if there are going to be multile bundles.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

This and a price drop and MS have won

Oh please. That and a price drop and they'll have equalized the fight that is anyone's to win.

 

[Sendou]

Lol. That's not even comparable.

Well the latest Digital Foundry article about PS4 titles don't exactly fill me with great hope for the future of the platform in that sense.

 

[BadWolf]

Doubt there will be a Kinect-less SKU, it would be a huge hindrance to their TV push.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

You know what, I wish they would just ask us what we want. I don't want a fucking all in one tv box. We have direct TV, and smart tvs for that shit. Just make a damn videogame box, and lets go from there.

 

[Guevara]

Kinect is part of MS strategy, is more than just a few policies that can be switched back, Probably whole OS features and games would have to be changed to allow this.

nah. for 90% of games it's just some bullshit that could be patched out. If you want to talk to your tv, buy a Kinect, if you don't, just use your d-pad like aways.

 

[Cidd]

RUMOR: Xbone = PS4

Next up Xbone will have Gaikai service BC.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

I can almost hear the worried expressions your faces make.

But how does it make it better than the PS4? To me it seems like they would be about equal in that case (if there is Kinectless SKU for 399) with some benefits for both.

For the same price you would get

One:
-dedicated servers
-probably more flexible OS

PS4:
-PS+ benefits
-more indie support (unless of course MS backtracks with this one too)
-more powerful

Then there is the question of exclusives too.

 

[Boss Man]

is the Xbox One becoming the new PS4?

If new means weaker and more expensive. Actually, that's exactly what new means a lot of the time so maybe.

 

[ari]

why would people want to pay 400 for a xbox one when you can play 400 for a ps4? If we are just taking about the box, ps4 beats xbox one at everything? Well, xbox one has the "cloud"...

Games make the consoles, if you prefer ps4 games...go for it.

 

[chubigans]

Well the latest Digital Foundry article about PS4 titles don't exactly fill me with great hope for the future of the platform in that sense.

You know what, I changed my mind, the dumb rumor was worth these types of posts.

 

[trmas]

This thread is funny. Almost as funny as watching MS flail around trying to compete with Apple, Google, and now Sony. Getting their butts handed to them on every front as well.

 

[xxracerxx]

nah just sit back and grab some popcorn

I'll try....the sheer magnitude of alliances towards a company always bothers the fuck out of me.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Well the latest Digital Foundry article about PS4 titles don't exactly fill me with great hope for the future of the platform in that sense.

It's not even worth going in circles with you as that thread has already taken its course.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

This actually helps Sony because Kaz and the rest of the SCE execs can now feel confident they're competing with a company that's completely clueless about what they're doing.

 

[Slermy]

I am doubtful. If this were true, why wouldn't they announce it along with the DRM removal?

 

[malfcn]

Can't believe this one.