OK listening to the archive with headphones. Will update as I go.
2. Chromecast "Super-Streamer" Xbox. (~$99)
3. Second Xbox streaming device: a bit bigger "not an Xbox One crammed into a tiny box". This is more of a replacement for those who would buy 360 as a media box in 2015. He thinks this device will leverage the Windows Store to play "lightweight" games (~$150 -> ~$175)
And neither have set the world on fire. I think at this point people already found something that streams their content. Offering W10 apps isn't going to get people to care anytime soon.
Would I be able to stream from a regular Xbox One to the new streaming stick?
These smaller xbox devices will only work if there's real first party support for them from a gaming perspective. I don't think just the apps part of xbox one is enticing enough.
OK listening to the archive with headphones. Will update as I go.
1. "Xbox Mini is Real"
2. Chromecast "Super-Streamer" Xbox. (~$99)
3. Second Xbox streaming device: a bit bigger "not an Xbox One crammed into a tiny box". This is more of a replacement for those who would buy 360 as a media box in 2015. He thinks this device will leverage the Windows Store to play "lightweight" games (~$150 -> ~$175)
4. Details get fuzzy at this point for Brad. Does not think MS will go for 4K gaming yet. Thinks the next system will be more of an iterative step.
5. Xbox becoming a platform. MS playing around with bringing the Xbox interface to PC (Redstone 2 related). Think Media Center for games. Speculation: "think further down the road - what if Xbox becomes software?"
6. Microsoft focused on "extensible" systems. It's the "magic" word in Microsoft right now.
7. Brad thinks MS will do something "Big" for the next Xbox in 2017. Thinks the Eurogamer article is "onto something" but thinks they have their wires crossed in some respects. MS doing "crazy" stuff. VR may play a part.
8. MS knows gaming is the "bread-and-butter" for Xbox and will show that at E3 but still want to "attack the living-room" and appeal to cord-cutters. Xbox One is currently too expensive/big for that audience.
9. Updated controller that will look mostly the same. Minor revision.
10. PC gaming big for Microsoft and E3 will reflect that. Look to see MS continue to try and bring Xbox and PC together.
11. Thinks we could see a revision/upgrade (minor) to the current Xbox One but is fuzzy on that.
The ps4.k is just a slightly upgraded ps4. Maybe a year after Xbox 2 we get ps5?Is Scorpio vs Neo where the eighth gen ends or truly begins? What the hell is going on?
Why not just throw an Xbox handheld, Xbox phone, Xbox tablet, and Xbox hairdryer into the mix? Might as well.
This brand is really going to diluted at this rate, and they'll end up needing to be more clear than ever in their message if they don't want to make the same mistake Nintendo did.
Because people like consoles and don't like stuff like:
edit: You can also make the opposite point: why build your own PC just for gaming, if MS is going to release a new state of the art xbox every couple of years (per Kotaku rumour)
And this sounds like a slightly upgraded xbox one.The ps4.k is just a slightly upgraded ps4. Maybe a year after Xbox 2 we get ps5?
I still *think* he is wrong. Here is my interpretation on everything that was rumored and found (FCC and Anatel stuff):
- the Nano stick thing is probably true
- the Lunchbox sized device IS in fact the Xbox One Slim with full gaming capability
- He confused the Xbox 1.5 with this Xbox One Slim
So 2 new devices this year and the big upgrade next year.
Not everything has to "set the world on fire". It's an additional device to compete in a place where MS see competitors encroaching (which I think was the whole reason that OG Xbox was created in the first place).
"Offering W10 apps" is looking at it from a technology perspective. From a consumer perspective, you get Netflix, Sky, 4OD, Hulu, whatever, plus the xbox app which gives you the ability to stream your xbox to it.
I must stress here this is pure speculation from me, reflecting what the podcast said. No insider stuff.
Xbox 2 to as in new generation ?
Imagine the Roku and the Chromecast, but instead with Xbox written on the device.
2. Chromecast style "Super-Streamer" Xbox. (~$99)
3. Second Xbox streaming device (~$150 -> ~$175): a bit bigger than the chromecast-like device but "not an Xbox One crammed into a tiny box". This is more of a replacement for those who would buy 360 as a media box in 2015. He thinks this device will leverage the Windows Store to play "lightweight" games.
Apple TV has had an app store for what, a year now? It plays all kinds of games, streams all of the same media and has dozens of quirky apps but it simply hasn't taken off. It even has a motion controller with a touchpad.
What makes you think the W10 app store will genuinely entice people more than that thing did?
Damn MS dropping Xbone faster than Nintendo the Wii U would certainly be something. Ballsy if true.
Damn MS dropping Xbone faster than Nintendo the Wii U would certainly be something. Ballsy if true.
Personally I don't think people buy these apps because of the store. I believe people buy those devices to watch Netflix (that's why I want one) and access their other media content... "What's the cheapest small device I can buy that lets me watch my stuff?" - MS has no answer in this space at the moment.
If it can also stream PC and XBox games then that's an awesome value-add and it then competes with SteamLink too.
Yeah, these are just leveraging the Xbox name as an entertainment brand instead of being Xboxes, similar to how the Kindle Fire TV is not an e-Reader.Thanks! So, Roku and Cast, but not with XB1 games playable on it?
This update from the OP makes it sound like...unclear as to whether it would play much in the way of games.
And if neither of those are for XB1 games, what will become my lowest-priced entry point into the XB1 ecosystem?
Sometimes I wonder if people read what's going on before commenting.
Yes new Xbox sure sounds like a.. third pillar.I really don't see how this is dropping anything, they are expanding.
Damn MS dropping Xbone faster than Nintendo the Wii U would certainly be something. Ballsy if true.
Would I be able to stream from a regular Xbox One to the new streaming stick?
WTF does this Xbox Mini thing do? Is it just a streaming stick like all the others that gives you access to movies you buy from the MIcrosoft store or something?
I mean, that is one crazy crowded competitive market. I want to know what an Xbox branded streaming stick brings to the game that would make people want it over a Roku, Firestick or Chromecast.
Microsoft doesn't necessarily have a solid game streaming tech at the moment (ala PlayStation Now). Maybe you can message/respond to your Xbox Friends and check achievements or something with it and stream your Xbox One or PC to your TV screen with it? I cant think of much beyond that.
What kind of price do we expect for 10Tflops console in Spring 2017? Because to me it seems expensive.
Seeing how people are starting to get rid of their Xbox, I was wondering what the trade values for these consoles were right now.
I hope they finally fix the bumpers with that controller revision.
WTF does this Xbox Mini thing do? Is it just a streaming stick like all the others that gives you access to movies you buy from the MIcrosoft store or something?
I mean, that is one crazy crowded competitive market. I want to know what an Xbox branded streaming stick brings to the game that would make people want it over a Roku, Firestick or Chromecast.
Microsoft doesn't necessarily have a solid game streaming tech at the moment (ala PlayStation Now). Maybe you can message/respond to your Xbox Friends and check achievements or something with it and stream your Xbox One or PC to your TV screen with it? I cant think of much beyond that.
So, they are going the "Jack of all trades, master of none" route.
So many varieties
feels like a marketing nightmare if they can pull it off