The problem is the middle of the screen will wear unevenly and you'll have a dim center and brighter area where the bars are. I'm overly cautious though.
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Sony teasing The Order sneak peak at 1pm PT today.
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The problem is the middle of the screen will wear unevenly and you'll have a dim center and brighter area where the bars are. I'm overly cautious though.
Sephiroth_GR_
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The Elder Scrolls?
Wishmaster92
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Come on guys, i know the footage was compressed but it's obvious which one looks better.
Fancy Clown
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Come on guys, i know the footage was compressed but it's obvious which one looks better.
Yeah the new one definitely looks better. Check out the reflections on the gun and armor, and the particle effects such as the smoke from chimneys and the sparks from that fuck-awesome gun
SniperHunter
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my sister has left a static image on the plasma on a number of occasions and the tv still didn't get any image retention. this is a non issue
DirgeExtinction
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Isn't image retention/screen burn in less of an issue(or even a non-issue) with modern plasmas anyway?
It's less of a problem for newer model plasmas, but it's still an issue. I think permanent burn-in during normal use is pretty much gone, but image retention is still a thing. The longer you use your plasma, the less likely it will be a problem and turning down contrast will help as well.
I played about 120 hours of Dark Souls on my 2010 Panasonic plasma over a holiday break and the HUD was there for over a month afterwards, but you'd only notice it up close or if it really clashed with the colors of a movie. I played a PS2 game in 4:3 last week, big black bars to the left and right. If you display a white image, than you'll see the outline of the 4:3 image, but in normal use, it's hardly noticeable and will be gone in a week. If you play a game with black bars or a big HUD, the trick is to display something different in between gaming sessions. I use an SD card with monochromatic images (blue, green, white,...) and I've never had any permanent burn-ins.
FeiRR
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Remember never to switch your plasma off. That's the whole lot of black which may break it!
Oh. My. Sides.
I've always wanted to invest in a plasma set, but the burn-in issue scared me away.
I wonder if it will ever be fully dealt with. In fact, who is still making plasma sets
in 2014?
GameSeeker
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Dear Ready At Dawn,
A suggestion for E3.
Sony Marketing seems stuck on using YouTube for all their game trailers and thereby making their games look much worse than reality due to the usage of low-quality, low bitrate YouTube video. Several studios have found ways to deliver higher quality video footage. Guerrilla Games, Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog and Evolution have all delivered high quality, high bitrate video that has impressed far more people than any YouTube footage.
It's clear you have put much effort into the graphics, animation, character design, physics, etc. of the world of The Order: 1886. Please have a plan to release high quality videos of your game before the end of E3. It doesn't matter whether you host the video on the Ready at Dawn website, Gamersyde, MEGA, etc. but find some place for it. If all people see of your game at E3 is more lousy YouTube footage, you will have done your game a disservice.
So be prepared and develop a plan for E3. And release the hounds!
A suggestion for E3.
Sony Marketing seems stuck on using YouTube for all their game trailers and thereby making their games look much worse than reality due to the usage of low-quality, low bitrate YouTube video. Several studios have found ways to deliver higher quality video footage. Guerrilla Games, Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog and Evolution have all delivered high quality, high bitrate video that has impressed far more people than any YouTube footage.
It's clear you have put much effort into the graphics, animation, character design, physics, etc. of the world of The Order: 1886. Please have a plan to release high quality videos of your game before the end of E3. It doesn't matter whether you host the video on the Ready at Dawn website, Gamersyde, MEGA, etc. but find some place for it. If all people see of your game at E3 is more lousy YouTube footage, you will have done your game a disservice.
So be prepared and develop a plan for E3. And release the hounds!
Wishmaster92
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I game on level 94 contrast and 57 brightness on my gt50. No regrets
Psycho_Mantis
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Man that thermite gun is an amazing idea. I'm going to be lighting the entire place up when I get it in the game.
Sadly, nobody. Panasonic was the last big manufacturer, but they released their last models in 2013. Those are supposed to be the best plasmas ever made, at least after the Kuros. There are still a few good options out there right now if you're interested, the image quality is really worth it, it's like a 65" Vita OLED
edit: Oh, and don't be too worried about burn-ins, it's hardly a problem on my 2010 plasma and the common consensus is that it was getting less and less of an issue with each year. If you buy a 2013 model, that's it. Plasma TV won't get any better than that. Now it's time to wait for affordable OLEDs.
fierrotlepou
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Gameplay looks about the same as a Gears of War game. It looks beautiful though and the setting is awesome.
Oh well.
Oh well.
Night Angel
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Not sure if serious. The issue comes from pixels aging at different rates. As plasmas age, they darken. Black bars won't age as fast, leading to brighter images at the top and bottom of the screen.
This is less of an issue with newer plasmas.
No wonder plasma is no longer made. People are still scared of IR and burn in.
Sigh. I never worry about either when using my kuro. Never had a problem.
Now we're stuck with shitty LCD's.
There should be no problem playing The Order on a plasma for long hours. Just make sure afterwards you follow it with full screen content.
I still don't like having black bars on a game though.
Sigh. I never worry about either when using my kuro. Never had a problem.
Now we're stuck with shitty LCD's.
There should be no problem playing The Order on a plasma for long hours. Just make sure afterwards you follow it with full screen content.
I still don't like having black bars on a game though.
Come on guys, i know the footage was compressed but it's obvious which one looks better.
Bed sheets became signs advocating rebellion. Upgrade total confirmed.
Rogue_Ledr
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Not unless you're playing the game for REALLY long periods of time incessantly.
I can't see the game harming the screen, unless you were playing the whole deal in one sitting.
FeiRR
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Of course I wasn't serious. How long until such thing happens, several thousand hours? Would you not watch a film on it because it may also have black bars? If you worry about things like that, don't buy a plasma. It's like suggesting not to charge your phone or laptop because it will eventually kill the battery.
So, Plasma-GAF, I take it you guys never ever watch movies?
Yeah the new one has more detail, greater post processing effects, like DoF and volumetric lighting specular light bloom on the gun and armour and more smoke, alpha effects and particles all with a silky smooth framerate and brilliant motion blur.
Come on guys, i know the footage was compressed but it's obvious which one looks better.
When this game shows the horror, werewolf side it will litterly be the bomb! I am even more desperate for this game now than ever, but please,please ready at dawn/Sony give us a direct feed HQ version of this....I need it in my veins!
Good to see that the hate/downgrade all games are crap brigade has moved from watchdogs or The Order... I shudder to think what will happen once Quantum Break and Halo 5 are shown.
Halo 5 "oh great you just shoot things from a first person perspective, I played this in the 90s"
FeiRR
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How do you know that? Certainly not from this stuttering and torn stream.
The Weeknd
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Graphically looks better than any game I have ever seen. Looks like CGI.
But my God does the gameplay look generic as hell.
But my God does the gameplay look generic as hell.
Yeah for me both videos are very poor. I'm assuming the game isn't actually running that badly. At least I hope not.
PetriP-TNT
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Really diggin the black bars honestly. I thought the whole thing was CGI. I like the settings too. Then again, the gameplay looked pretty boring.
SniperHunter
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you are correct
I completely agree with you. It has to just be the video. Still then, why show it off?
Always-honest
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Yeah, no burnin, just image retention these days. And that's a non issue.
Agreed.
Graphically, this the best looking game on next gen (or are we calling them current gen now?) without a doubt (until Uncharted is shown). I love this alternate reality setting and atmosphere, I think Ready at Dawn nailed it just by the few videos I've seen. The gameplay is very reminiscent of Gears of War, which to me, isn't a bad thing at all and even if someone said it's a GoW clone, then that's good news to me as GoW was always fun as hell. I really can't wait to see more of what Sony has to show of this at E3.
Sadly, nobody. Panasonic was the last big manufacturer, but they released their last models in 2013. Those are supposed to be the best plasmas ever made, at least after the Kuros. There are still a few good options out there right now if you're interested, the image quality is really worth it, it's like a 65" Vita OLED
edit: Oh, and don't be too worried about burn-ins, it's hardly a problem on my 2010 plasma and the common consensus is that it was getting less and less of an issue with each year. If you buy a 2013 model, that's it. Plasma TV won't get any better than that. Now it's time to wait for affordable OLEDs.
Regarding burn-in, this is good to hear. I will now be on the hunt for a Panasonic VT60.
LightofRohan
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I`m am totally aware of Sony 1st party efforts over the last few years and I`m all for it.
That doesn`t make the PS4 1st party situation any better though. As things are at this time, my first year with the PS4 didn`t translate to interesting 1st party software, that`s all.
And I was very specific qhen I said "fails to impress ME so far", so your experience might be different. I was talking about mine.
Wishmaster92
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If you were to tell me this was cg, i would have believed you.
Most likely have to wait until Tuesday.
Lion Heart
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I promise you the negativity for those games will be minimal at best. Quote me later.
cormack12
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Why are these videos such horrible quality? I can't even watch them all the way through. It takes a lot for something like that to bother me. I really like the idea of this game - if there are new videos etc. at least make them decent enough quality to be able to formulate opinions on
kutthoat5150
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I've watched many back to back episodes of The Wire with the old school 4:3 ratio on my ST50 without problems, only time I had problems with IR was playing the Witcher 2 for like 5 hours straight on it when it was still fairly new. It went away after a while from just watching tv on it
boubongaffer
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no shite. moves like gears and turns into gta once you start firing. the worst of both worlds.
and doesent sony already have a first party franchise that plays like this? whats it called?............................oh yeah, uncharted.
ReplacementPelican
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The videos are bad quality because Sony gave an exclusive look on a Twitch stream, every other video is recorded from said stream. It was supposed to be a one-off, exciting thing before we get the full footage and now we're all looking at shitty captures from Twitch and squinting. Sony should have realised this and just released it on Youtube or something.
Also, agree that in trying to prove it was downgraded that previous poster merely made it look upgraded, shame.
Also, agree that in trying to prove it was downgraded that previous poster merely made it look upgraded, shame.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Honestly looking at them now, the new footage looks better, compressed or not. The lighting effects on the character and gun are better and bring the focal point on the player character (as it should be), and the saturation levels are toned down to create a more appropriate vibe, not to mention it works better for contrast w/ the explosions.
Come on guys, i know the footage was compressed but it's obvious which one looks better.
Level of texture detail for the buildings looks better in the old shots yeah, but I'd take the newer ones easily. It actually has depth and doesn't look flat.
Same. This is probably the best-looking next-gen game I've seen so far, both in a technical and artistic sense. Can't wait 'till crow's eaten by the haters thinking the game's gonna suck.
If you were to tell me this was cg, i would have believed you.
LookAtMeGo
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Oh, come on! Seriously?
boubongaffer
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unless i am a quadrapalegic stevie wonder..........yes, i am serious as all hell.
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