Halo has been running with this same 'trope' since day one... Why stop now?
At the end of the day, don't we all just want a good excuse to shoot some shit?
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Halo has been running with this same 'trope' since day one... Why stop now?
At the end of the day, don't we all just want a good excuse to shoot some shit?
Twilight Gap
Member
Eh, i'll say that i do like that Locke kept his promise and brought Chief to Halsey. I'll give him that towards his character.
Seriously though, this story. 343 can do better than this.
Seriously though, this story. 343 can do better than this.
PetulantChild
Banned
I honestly don't know if they can. Both the games they've made so far seem to suffer from the same problems.
Vire
Member
Nah... Brian Reed is a comic book writer and it shows.
I don't even care anymore at this point. I've long come to accept that the EU has already been butchered beyond repair by Karen Traviss.
Xzilerate1690
Banned
This is the best story since Halo 2 for me, so 343 has done a pretty damn good job as far as I'm concerned.
Twilight Gap
Member
well they improved the gameplay based on criticism, so maybe they'll improve the story if this one is panned.
i hope it is. wont be hearing much of that from me though. the story wouldn't bother me if the levels were fun, but slogging through warden after warden with annoying monologues on top of it really put a damper in my fun.
PetulantChild
Banned
Wait Brian Reed wrote Halo 5 too? I though they got someone else. They couldn't just get Greg Bear or something?
It honestly hurts me deep inside that Robert Heinlein is dead and we will never get a Heinlein written Halo book.
Twilight Gap
Member
only missions i liked were
Osiris
Blue Team
Reunion
Swords of Sanghelios
Glassed and Battle of Sunaion might grow on me, but I otherwise don't think i'll be doing a full playthrough of this much.
Osiris
Blue Team
Reunion
Swords of Sanghelios
Glassed and Battle of Sunaion might grow on me, but I otherwise don't think i'll be doing a full playthrough of this much.
really ? i thought it was a big improvement over halo 4 but it was too short and not a lot has happened. sure you got cortana taking control of giant warships and rallying ai against humans but after that ? giant cliffhanger. it ended too abruptly and left me hanging wanting more.
i hope they take campaign complaints to heart and improve on it there are a lot of people who mainly buy this because of the singleplayer mode
its probably unlikely but i hope we get some news about the next game at e3 2016. i mean they did the same in 2013 a few months after halo 4
PetulantChild
Banned
I have a feeling the next mainline Halo game is gonna be essentially an add on to Halo 5. Something about the semi-colon in the title just gives me that feeling.
Locke is gonna be redeemed in a Platinum action game, you heard it here first folks.
samurai1226
Member
Nope, he was killed in the Halo Escalation comics by blue team as they blow up the ring+composers with him. Didact's dead.
Xzilerate1690
Banned
Yea. Never cared for Halo 3's story. Reach and ODST were my two favorites and 5 surpasses both of them IMO.
Didn't seem like it was too short to me. Sure we didn't get a resolution, but I knew that was the likely outcome a while ago considering this is no longer a trilogy but a saga.
He's not dead. Chief chooses his words carefully when referring to the Didact's fate and says he's "contained". That's a far cry from dead.
Twilight Gap
Member
I long await the day that Halo abandons one hit kill sniping attacks. It wasn't good in Halo 2 and it still isn't good. Jackals I can learn to deal with, but the Warden and his near uncounterable OHK abilities was overkill in the most literal sense (we can't even shoot the tracking orb, really?!)
Legendary should increase the number of enemies, their aggressiveness, and the velocity and accuracy of their shots. But extra damage and extra health on top is something I'd rather they keep to the skulls.
It doesn't make the game harder, it makes the encounters less interesting because all that open space is wasted when enemies kill that quickly. I've never liked this about Halo and it's on full display here, even in spite of the leeway with the revive mechanic.
The Sanghelios levels in particular were beautiful open spaces, but running around them meant dying to just about anything in a blink of an eye. It got old crouching tiger hidden dragon behind chest high railings and peek shooting enemies with a Storm Rifle, only to die from something on the other side of the level that just got dropped in when you went to pick up a better gun. Even using vehicles felt pointless at times when enemies could destroy it so fast.
Legendary should increase the number of enemies, their aggressiveness, and the velocity and accuracy of their shots. But extra damage and extra health on top is something I'd rather they keep to the skulls.
It doesn't make the game harder, it makes the encounters less interesting because all that open space is wasted when enemies kill that quickly. I've never liked this about Halo and it's on full display here, even in spite of the leeway with the revive mechanic.
The Sanghelios levels in particular were beautiful open spaces, but running around them meant dying to just about anything in a blink of an eye. It got old crouching tiger hidden dragon behind chest high railings and peek shooting enemies with a Storm Rifle, only to die from something on the other side of the level that just got dropped in when you went to pick up a better gun. Even using vehicles felt pointless at times when enemies could destroy it so fast.
draughn101
Member
Lol you gotta hit the B button and dodge it! He is tough, and I still have mission14 on legendary to manage, but I didn't have any problems with the other parts. You gotta stay close to your team, so if you get sniped (warden excluded) they can get you. Adds a little strategy.
yes and its really dissapointing. hopefully this changes with the next game. i mean why introduce blue team if youre only playing a small part of the game as them ?
you could be right but they still have halo wars 2 to pump out can they do both at the same time ?
PetulantChild
Banned
I would kill for a skull that essentially mimics Metro 2033s Ranger Hardcore where your health and the enemies health are both super low.
Halo Wars 2 is being done by Creative Assembly. 343 is probably just doing some consulting.
samurai1226
Member
According to H4 Terminals he's immune to the composer
Twilight Gap
Member
I can dodge the laser attack but I didn't sign up for Halo: Blue Shell edition.
That last Warden fight was some hot garbage. One of those guys is annoying enough, but 3 of them and then turrets on top had me ready to nope out of there.
I think I got lucky somehow because the AI sometimes turn into T-Rexes when your squad is reviving each other, so I was able to break the aggro off of the Wardens that way. The other 50 tries before that consisted of me being shot in the back while trying to separate them.
In the far end of the room with 3 wardens you have one or two of those promethean equivalent of spartan lasar...can't remember what they are called.
Atleast the fight has checkpoints after each warden dies.
You're too used to the centurion/golgoroth tracking ball I see.
Atleast the fight has checkpoints after each warden dies.
You're too used to the centurion/golgoroth tracking ball I see.
Twilight Gap
Member
Just think the design is antiquated at this point. Bungie fixed the jackal problem by having the snipers charge up their shots before firing. They can still be OHKs, but there are obvious visual and aural tells before they fire. Their revive mechanic is also better because you can actually move and see what's happening while you revive someone. Don't like all these forced quick time animations, especally when some enemies don't show up on the radar at all.
Most of those attacks are only OHKs on Legendary though. Can't say I've ever enjoyed playing solo Legendary. Was always best in co-op (with Iron Skull)
Most of those attacks are only OHKs on Legendary though. Can't say I've ever enjoyed playing solo Legendary. Was always best in co-op (with Iron Skull)
Xzilerate1690
Banned
Halo Wars 2 is being done mostly by Creative Assembly.
Twilight Gap
Member
343's done great catering to various communities with this game, so they couldn't leave out the Rule 34 fans.
The end of Halo 4 is nothing compared to this game.
The end of Halo 4 is nothing compared to this game.
No need for the disrespect towards an entire medium, a lot of fantastic writers work in the comics industry.
I thought Chief went "he probably ain't dead".
Twilight Gap
Member
Playing on Heroic and missing that difficulty curve from Legendary (minus the OHK stuff of course). Enemies are way too easy, sigh
On a random note, smart scope is probably my favorite new mechanic update to the game. Funny how a bunch of useless weapons suddenly became viable.
Except the Storm Rifle. This...this i do not like.
On a random note, smart scope is probably my favorite new mechanic update to the game. Funny how a bunch of useless weapons suddenly became viable.
Except the Storm Rifle. This...this i do not like.
PetulantChild
Banned
I really hope there is a classic version of the Plasma Rifle in Warzone or something. The storm rifle feels as bad if not worse than the Halo 3 AR.
Man I really hate the jumper controls here, wish it was like Destiny.
There is no reason why sprint should be mapped to A instead of left stick, it gets used a lot more than crouch eventhough I know certain people like crouch to be mapped to left stick but that was when Halo didn't have sprint ability. I can't believe they still have it in Halo 5.
Dodge should be A, sprint should be left click, reload and action should be X and crouch should be B.
Twilight Gap
Member
hmm
Wait till you play multiplayer.
Crouching under headshots is why I made sure to pick a scheme with crouch on the left stick.
But often that's not how marketing works. They normally don't just replicate a scene 1:1 and use that as their big CGI trailer (remember the Believe campaign of Halo 3 and the huge battle they were talking about and showing with the diorama and how that battle never happened in the actual game?).
They take the general themes and journey of a game and built their marketing campaign around that. The announcement trailer 100% fits the finished story:
Master Chief helps activate/is present when activating a Guardian in the hopes of finding Cortana, symbolised by her empty micro chip thingy. Obviously the scenario is different, but the broad strokes are the same.
It's the same with the Hunt The Truth campagin: There is never really much of a mystery in the game why you hunt the Chief and not nearly as much conflict between Locke & Chief as teased by the Live Action trailers, but that's because marketing often consists of taking certain themes and focusing on them to get a certain message, focus and tagline across.
It's just kinda weird to see this happening with 343-Halo, since they did such a great job with Halo 4 of specifically teasing stuff happening in the game with their books and trailers. Remember that live action trailer in the crashing ship that fluently cut to the in game cinematic of the ship crashing onto the planet? That was brilliant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRxj8wEssqc
So while it's a little disappointing that 343 didn't go that route this time and fails to live up to many of the promises they made with their messaging and trailers, it doesn't really tell us anything about the actualy writing process of the game or indicate a change of the script. It's just marketing.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Owned with is own weapon!
It still bugs me that Locke slowly reaches for the suit lock device and turns it on in front of Chief for him to see it and then walks towards him to put it on his chest when in a previous instance he just threw that thing immediately on Buck to lock his suit.
hmm
Wait till you play multiplayer.
Crouching under headshots is why I made sure to pick a scheme with crouch on the left stick.
Yes I know that but like I said this was a time when Halo had longer TTK and no sprint. I suspect it's different now, I feel like my movement/traversal ability now suffers because of this.
LightningXCE
Member
Nathan Fillion plays the same role in everything he does.
I'm totally okay with this, though.
Do you NXOE? You can remap the buttons. I play with default but switched crouch and thrust to mirror Destiny's default. I don't thrust enough and found myself flying all over the map when I was trying to crouch.
In terms of the art/design, I gotta agree that the forerunner stuff is STILL waaaaay too over detailed an beveled. You can keep the lights, glowing, and cool textures, but please reduce the complexity of the geometry. H 1-3 had this brilliant and simple elegance to it, but with 4+5, it feels way too busy. Not to mention the color palettes are still literally just orange and blue
Yep. Apart from not knowing who Locke is or why I should care I found the game approachable without having to read any EU nonsense.
Xzilerate1690
Banned
When I first saw this scene I was kind of surprised it was Chief who started the fight. I mean why not just walk through the portal like the rest of Blue Team? It was clear Locke wasn't going to shoot him. I mean to start a fight with another Spartan just because he said Cortana was their concern now is kind of eh...
Is that a feature in the new OS?
I don't have it, would be great addition actually.
PetulantChild
Banned
I think a lot of people are gonna be really confused about why Cortana is big bad now.
The fact that Chief doesn't say a "Locke" related pun is a crime against humanity.
Twilight Gap
Member
He was an asshole in Firefly.
LightningXCE
Member
Yup, you use the 'Xbox Accessories' app and can remap all buttons - standard and Elite controllers alike.
What bugged me more is that Locke actually hit Chief and damaged his visor. Unacceptable. imo, Locke should've gotten rekt one punch Blam! Locke dead - no more Osiris missions and all Chief
Distresssss
Member
Locke shouldn't have been able to make physical contact with the visor. John and every spartan have a hair thin energy shield around their entire body. His punch should have hit the shield and ended there.
A++ should be in the OP
Vire
Member
Twilight Gap
Member
needs more avengers
Twilight Gap
Member
Warden was a much cooler character though. That cutscene on Reunion gave me chills.
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