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Supercell revenues nears $2bn for 2014
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AcademicSaucer
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You can see why Nintendo made the move to mobile, thats where the money is
Noisepurge
Member
they aren't meant to be "played" in long bursts, you just open up the App when you're taking a dump, or waiting for the bus, or in the elevator.
Click on a few things to progress your game, or atleast the game is well made enough that you "feel" like you're making progress towards something.
Then don't do anything until you have another 30 seconds of waiting somewhere in your life to click on another few things.
The style of these games is not comparable to any other classic games beyond Email-Chess or something.
I play the Square-Enix version of this that's a combination of Pokemon and Hearthstone called Deadman's Cross. You just collect cards and build a deck to fight other players in a totally meaningless arena automatically. It just requires a few taps every 2 hours beyond a hunting minigame.
evilromero
Member
I have no idea what game this is or the company. I've learned that they come and go so fast that I tune them out. Ever since FarmVille.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Mobile is growing at a really fast rate every year. There´s no crash any time soon.
The acceptance of this formula, in this forum of all places, is pretty shocking to me. Obviously the income numbers meant the mainstream audience has bought into it, but if the frequenters of this forum, who usually stand for a much more varied and niche segment of gaming, is all about this game, I truly fear for the future of gaming.
Everything locked behind timewalls... microtransactions in everything. I'm thankful it failed with Dead Space 3, but with this kind of sentiment here, I'm positive it'll contaminate so much more of the industry.
Do you know what a crash means? It's usually the result of a fad phenomenon that grows at a really fast rate every year... and then the fad moves on and it's left hollow. Mobile development has grown consistently as a whole, but individual games' success is a lottery, where a few lucky games out of millions are chosen to be popular with the zeitgeist, then they're abandoned. It happens to individual games all the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to the mobile f2p economy at some point, too. People are fickle.
Everything locked behind timewalls... microtransactions in everything. I'm thankful it failed with Dead Space 3, but with this kind of sentiment here, I'm positive it'll contaminate so much more of the industry.
Do you know what a crash means? It's usually the result of a fad phenomenon that grows at a really fast rate every year... and then the fad moves on and it's left hollow. Mobile development has grown consistently as a whole, but individual games' success is a lottery, where a few lucky games out of millions are chosen to be popular with the zeitgeist, then they're abandoned. It happens to individual games all the time, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to the mobile f2p economy at some point, too. People are fickle.
The game is actually pretty exciting if youre in an active clan. So exciting that its actually stressful.
I was in this one clan where chat would just blow up in the final hour of war, everyone would be watching everyones attacks live and nitpicking after. One time we lost and some members just had complete meltdowns. I quit that clan, my heart couldnt take anymore of the 1 star losses.
I was in this one clan where chat would just blow up in the final hour of war, everyone would be watching everyones attacks live and nitpicking after. One time we lost and some members just had complete meltdowns. I quit that clan, my heart couldnt take anymore of the 1 star losses.
I don't follow mobile scene that much but this company is a little special because they seems to make hits after hits.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I've never seen The Big Bang Theory but I thought it was quite well liked?
Yes, because Nintendo always planned to prostitute their IPs out to mobile development
And Square Enix.
And Sega.
and so on and so forth.
CoC might be a good game, but the success is only going to force companies to make rash decisions like abandoning consoles for mobile or at the minimum focusing hard on mobile when the money might not be there.
Personally I avoid games that attempt to monetize my time. Between commuting, work and family the time I have is precious enough without somebody trying to monetize it.
I did try a game similar to Clash once, right up until the point when I realized that the person who was continually raiding me would always be enough ahead of me to do this as much as they wanted. The advantage they had of more time in the game was worth more than any bit of strategy could reasonably overcome, and my only recourse was to spend money to make up time. It was that moment, when I realized that there would be no real victory unless I was willing to devote the most time and money to the game that I uninstalled it.
I'd rather give $60 to Ready at Dawn to support that business model.
I did try a game similar to Clash once, right up until the point when I realized that the person who was continually raiding me would always be enough ahead of me to do this as much as they wanted. The advantage they had of more time in the game was worth more than any bit of strategy could reasonably overcome, and my only recourse was to spend money to make up time. It was that moment, when I realized that there would be no real victory unless I was willing to devote the most time and money to the game that I uninstalled it.
I'd rather give $60 to Ready at Dawn to support that business model.
You would think so, but this year so far I know 5 guys that got into CoC. I didn't even recommend the game to them.
Actually, Two and a Half men would have been a better example. BBT has enough referenced and in-jokes to be enjoyed
Phoenician_Viking
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First of all there are plenty of quality games on mobile. And secondly it´s not the consumer´s fault for not buying Nintendo hardware or software. Nintendo prostitute their IPs anyway, might as well get much more profit from it since the user base is huge.
2 and half men is very enjoyable.
That's quite a lot of money. Crazy growth over '13 too.
Boom Beach seems to be doing very well for them, and neither CoC or Hay Day look like they're falling off. I reckon they'll be alright for a while.
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
That's the problem
evilromero
Member
Nice. That's fucking gross.
Supercell is a Finnish mobile game company. They have made 3 games, so far: http://supercell.com/en/games/
Hay Day, Clash of Clans and Boom Beach.
Sexually Aggressive Uncle
Member
I gotta admit, Clash of Clans is about the only game I really play on my iPhone or iPad. I'm not sure why I keep at it but it's been a year now and I'm still plugging away.
I bet that's from a tutorial screen where you're given a gem specifically to see how it works. Not that the business model is any different, but I suspect you don't normally see the large arrow or the chick telling you not to be stingy.
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maquiladora
Member
Why? Smartphones are not going to go away. Individual games and developers can go pop pretty quickly, but mobile as a whole? Nah.
yellowjacket25
Member
I have spent $10 on this game total and im lvl 120 and have reached champion level in trophies. You don't have to spend a lot or anything at all to really enjoy this game and move up and accomplish things. Sure it will speed things up but its not necessary. The gameplay itself isn't what keeps it popular anyways. It's the social aspects. When you are in a good clan where you know everyone and learn more about them over time then it is a good time. My wife, who plays few video games, has been playing for over two years and is a higher lvl than I am. Its not because she really likes launching gowipe attacks. She likes the people she is playing with.
KillerMan91
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They are also morally pretty awesome company so I have no problems with them succeeding. They gave 3.4 million euros from their own pockets for building new childrens hospital here in Finland and are one of the rare big companies that pay all their taxes to Finland without using tax paradises.
yellowjacket25
Member
It is from the tutorial. You don't have to spend gems on anything later on if you don't want to. It's only a time saver. I have around 4k gems and rarely ever spend them on anything except when there is a 1 gem collector boost special or when I need to boost a spell factory. You also get gems for free pretty regularly by cutting down trees and getting achievements.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
Clash of Clans in a nutshell.
And the gems are, of course, incredibly difficult to accumulate unless you spend real cash. It's the oldest trick in the book as far as "Free to Wait" games go.
The fear is that with the rising costs of AAA/console development, publishers are going feel increasingly reluctant to spend a ton of money on console games and will reorganize their plans and studios to be more mobile focused where the potential profits are massively more appealing from a business perspective.
They still need to make a good game, you know.
Even if publishers don't shift to the mobile industry, the creep of microtransactions is only going to make a larger presence in console gaming so long as there are billions to be made from them. $90 games when season passes are included are bad enough, but monetization for unlocking timewalls in addition to that... Disgusting.
Randomizer123454444
Member
Good for Supercell, as a fellow countryman I'm proud of their achievement. As a gamer I'm a bit cautious about them since I don't do mobile games, but apparently a lot of people do.
Mobile gaming "bubble" will only burst if people stop spending money on mobile games. For that to happen, they have to have some other place where they spend their money. That is either another game or form of entertainment. Is there a form of entertainment coming that will replace mobile gaming? Because I don't see mobile gaming going away any time soon.
Only crashes that will happen are gaming company crashes when their core mobile game goes out of fashion. But the empty void left by that crash will be filled by another game from another company, skyrocketing that company to riches and glory.
Mobile gaming "bubble" will only burst if people stop spending money on mobile games. For that to happen, they have to have some other place where they spend their money. That is either another game or form of entertainment. Is there a form of entertainment coming that will replace mobile gaming? Because I don't see mobile gaming going away any time soon.
Only crashes that will happen are gaming company crashes when their core mobile game goes out of fashion. But the empty void left by that crash will be filled by another game from another company, skyrocketing that company to riches and glory.
Quality isn't the deciding factor for monetization success; addiction is. CoC is rivaling GTA revenue... Are you saying the games are similar in quality?
It's all about accessibility and addiction.
How would you define quality, though? Perhaps the better question is, did you receive more hours of enjoyment out of a game?
Conkerkid11
Member
The scene is from John Wick not GoT.
Right, right. The game is terrible and not fun. Everyone was just tricked into becoming addicted. >.>
Conkerkid11
Member
You're very confused.
Wow, that's more revenue than ALL of Ubisoft combined (Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs, Just Dance Far Cry et all), and far, FAR more proift. And with just 140 people. Staggering.
Supercell is pulling its weight in Finland ethically by paying its taxes without tax havens and contributing to society (like the children's hospital), so I have few issues with this. I wish other game companies shared their fortune with society a bit more too.
Supercell is pulling its weight in Finland ethically by paying its taxes without tax havens and contributing to society (like the children's hospital), so I have few issues with this. I wish other game companies shared their fortune with society a bit more too.
Not really. If it wasn't fun to begin with you would not have started in the first place.
pinkurocket
Member
How much do they spend on marketing though? It has so many ads.