EmptySpace
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looks like shit, poop, and all the negative adjectives that i can think of.
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The Order 1886 at PSX - Impressions, Gameplay, etc.
- Thread starter Khalifa Jayy
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They could, but be honest, which generic statements mostly appear for this game anytime a footage is shown, do you actually see negative constructive statements??
I see positive constructive statements, with whats to like and whats not to like
The speed of both games look similar, but not for the same reasons. Gears looks to be a similar speed because the enemies take more damage and at times Epic would throw a ton of them at you. Also, Gears is built with multiplayer in mind for all the modes which is why the enemies are made with the intention of taking time to kill.
The Order looks slow because general movement seems to be slower and the game focuses more on being cinematic. The melee for regular enemies show this off the contrast most of all. In Gears the melee is quicker than what they are doing in the Order. Every melee in this game goes into an elaborate animation.
Lol
Chaos2Frozen
Member
The gameplay was NOT boring.
But it was nothing special.
Neither good nor bad nor boring, just nothing new to the table- especially when they're only fighting boring enemies (Now THAT I would agree is boring)
If Ready At Dawn are betting everything on story, they better be putting in 1000% into it, otherwise they'll just be Ninja Theory's DmC but not as vulgar.
But it was nothing special.
Neither good nor bad nor boring, just nothing new to the table- especially when they're only fighting boring enemies (Now THAT I would agree is boring)
If Ready At Dawn are betting everything on story, they better be putting in 1000% into it, otherwise they'll just be Ninja Theory's DmC but not as vulgar.
DirtyManos
Member
It's funny, like, it starts off with them about to rappel down a zeppelin. And I'm thinking, ok this is more like it, taking advantage of the theme etc. Victorian special forces breaching midair zeppelins, lots of cool stuff can happen, totally down with that.
And they cut it before it starts.
And then we're in a goddamn bland kitchen. Then the honestly pretty simple cover-based gunplay starts against other people with machine guns as well. I wouldn't know this was some victorian streampunk era if not for the costumes and weapons designs (which act like modern-day weapons anyway). The only environmental damage is some pans and plates getting blown off counters.
I just don't get it, they're obviously a talented group but they over and over again cannot show me a single piece of compelling live gameplay. It's off my radar till launch and reactions from players.
And they cut it before it starts.
And then we're in a goddamn bland kitchen. Then the honestly pretty simple cover-based gunplay starts against other people with machine guns as well. I wouldn't know this was some victorian streampunk era if not for the costumes and weapons designs (which act like modern-day weapons anyway). The only environmental damage is some pans and plates getting blown off counters.
I just don't get it, they're obviously a talented group but they over and over again cannot show me a single piece of compelling live gameplay. It's off my radar till launch and reactions from players.
swazzyswess
Member
Disagree. It's fine if they're bringing nothing new to the table, but the combat doesn't even appear to have the dynamism or depth of other similar games.
This is looking like a huge letdown.
New impression from Glenn over at PS Nation. Sounds like the game is looking (and playing) much better.
http://www.psnation.com/2014/12/06/impressions-the-order-1886-from-the-playstation-experience/
http://www.psnation.com/2014/12/06/impressions-the-order-1886-from-the-playstation-experience/
Dont no why you decided to go into your critic on it, Its your opinion on the game, can't tell you how to feel about the game
The main point I am making is certain people who have made up their mind before a new footage is shown, and this has been clear since the first footage
BadAss2961
Member
Well put.
Melee system looks good to me, people will just have to know when to use it. Using it with all those enemies around was a bad idea -- using it after he grazed that guy with the shotgun would've been a great idea. Live demos though...
Pulling that enemy over the table was pretty slick.
Pretty much this : /
IonicSnake
Banned
Will buy it with my generic as fuck money on day 1!
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
straight up trash. shooter on rails. nice setting but thats about it
I've watched all the footage with an open mind. Problem is it's all been boring and awkward. Did anyone else pay attention to the aiming cursor. There was this big sway like the worst sort of console shooters. While the enemies themselves just sort of stood there and took it. I'm not sure what's supposed to be interesting about this game at all besides the graphics.
UltraGunner
Banned
This game is incapable of demoing well
Ninja Scooter
Member
I've resigned myself to the fact that it's going to be a really linear/guided experience and, as long as the gameplay is polished and the shooting is fun, I'm fine with that.
swazzyswess
Member
*mind-blown.gif*
They're both the same type of game, but Uncharted lets you do something other than crouch behind counters.
This is what I thought, I expected it to be a TPS and it showed that
Cover similar to TLOU and Uncharted, nice gun combat in close area, melee was meh (but id like to see more variations), didnt like the continous talking of rebel down, reloading
It is a beautiful looking TPS, with the same time of combat I have seen in most TPS games. I dont really know how it would mix with lycan battle, morse code, black water and the special QTE that was talked about.
Overall the footage I saw was just decent and what I would expect from your typical TPS
The more I see of The Order the less I'm looking forward to it. I desperately need something for my PS4 so that will have to do I guess.
God what I wouldn't give for a new Medievil instead of that, or even a new Daxter (yes I loved this game on PSP).
It feels so boring and generic gameplay wise. I hope the story isn't total crap.
God what I wouldn't give for a new Medievil instead of that, or even a new Daxter (yes I loved this game on PSP).
It feels so boring and generic gameplay wise. I hope the story isn't total crap.
Ugh how was that on rails?
TheSpaceBetween
Member
I really wish games would shut the fuck up with everyone shouting every time they reload or kill an enemy. I keep wanting to like this game but they are giving me very little to like from a gameplay perspective.
Shooting looked pretty good, audio continues to be one of the game's strong points. You can really feel the punch from that coach gun. Delivery of the 'rebel down' and 'reloading' lines while in combat sounded lifeless though.
The AI looked much better in this showing than in previous ones, coach gun rebel guy was really trying to flush Galahad out of cover for example. Moving between, and out of cover looked a bit clunky and cumbersome though, would like to see some impressions from people who will be able to play it.
I don't know what to make of the lychan melee sequence shown. It looks realy cool, and is animated really well. However, without much details, I'm not really sure how engaging it will be.
The AI looked much better in this showing than in previous ones, coach gun rebel guy was really trying to flush Galahad out of cover for example. Moving between, and out of cover looked a bit clunky and cumbersome though, would like to see some impressions from people who will be able to play it.
I don't know what to make of the lychan melee sequence shown. It looks realy cool, and is animated really well. However, without much details, I'm not really sure how engaging it will be.
pretty much
Omegabalmung9
Member
Shooter on rails would be something like Tales from the Borderlands.
Like jump from ledge to ledge like we've been doing for the past 3 games? The only thing impressive about the UC4 footage was the foliage. The fact that you can now swing from a branch doesn't change anything. It played just like the previous titles. And the downgrade in graphics was very real.
Mr.Fletcher
Member
Gears of War was never designed with multiplayer in mind. The original didn't have a competitive game mode until the final few months of development when, just two people created it from scratch.
Epic are the masters of wrapping arcadey gameplay in a triple-A skin.
I've been a big supporter of 1886 from the beginning and haven't had a problem with any previous showing, but it was incredibly poor tonight. 10 second clip, fumbled kitchen combat, then a mini-melee segment. Shocking.
Messofanego
Banned
Justice_Bolt
Member
swazzyswess
Member
How was there a downgrade when we hadn't even seen gameplay before today?
FonkyByNature
Member
Incredible graphics but what the hell is that generic, "I'm reloading", kinda gameplay? Melee with the werewolf looked nice though.
Not sure that's a buy yet...
Not sure that's a buy yet...
I completely agree.
The graphics look unbelievable, but everything else (of what little they've shown) looks like it just isn't coming together. The setting and plot is unique so I'm still interested in the title, but it really does look like a broken Gears of War game. The camera looks too pulled-in, all of the guns seem to suffer from reload-itis, the melee seems rudimentary and uninspired, the characters' fighting alongside you seem like they need to spend more time at the gun range, the list goes on. It's been a slow and gradual realization that the gameplay needs a lot more time in the kitchen.
Frankly, I'd be genuinely surprised if the show floor impressions are positive. I'm pulling for the developers because they really need to breakout from the "PSP port guys" label, but I fear that The Order might not be the title that does it for them. It would suck to spend years working and succeeding on another developer's IP, only to create your own and have it fail.
More to come since they have a full 30 minute demo.
I thought it was Capt. Price from CoD in the kitchen with all that "I'm reloading", "rebel down". That was extremely WEAK and non-cinematic. Nonetheless - it looks good. People comparing this to UC - it's unfair. Team sizes, resources?
RAD has made quality games for the psp. Graphically it looks great especially the melee part (even if showing melee as it's own trailer seemed silly) so I'm going to support this......by purchasing the DISK.
RAD has made quality games for the psp. Graphically it looks great especially the melee part (even if showing melee as it's own trailer seemed silly) so I'm going to support this......by purchasing the DISK.
I'm referring to the original UC4 reveal that looked too good to be true, but ND insisted was real time on PS4. Not to mention the footage was running at 30fps when they said it would be at 60. Yes it's still in development etc etc but i was disappointed.
Yeah, waiting eagerly for impressions
Based off work in progress, lol
Weeaboosuke
Member
I like what I saw.
OsirisBlack
Banned
You mean like the Last of Us, Shadow of Mordor,metal gear and every assassins creed ever? people are really trying to hate this game.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
You are missing the complexity to the level design they showed in UC4. It was much more open, and traversal, combat, and environmental interaction were integrated in a way that far surpassed what we've seen in previous Uncharted games. Of course it looks and plays like you would expect Uncharted to, as it is an Uncharted game. And they have a year to keep improving the graphics.