d00d3n
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To be fair, Sweden had a serious terrorist event in 2010. It was a total failure from the perspective of the terrorist who only managed to blow himself up, but it is not completely unreasonable to call it a "terror attack".
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Trump: Sweden has huge immigration problems. Sweden: No we don't, USA pls
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Yesterday I saw tweets about what Fox segment was responsible for his statement, and unsurprisingly it turned out to be true. The amazing thing is that it isn't even a news story, but an interview with a filmmaker. Trump probably can't tell the difference.
This is the segment by the way: https://youtu.be/OSzjfAMk-RI
Looks like a slanted doc by an American filmmaker.
This is the segment by the way: https://youtu.be/OSzjfAMk-RI
Looks like a slanted doc by an American filmmaker.
Muffin1611
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This likewise pissed me off when he first started to talk about Germany like it was some country ravaged by Sharia law and rape. Hell, it's still pissing me off.
Wow. Something oddly cathartic about seeing Magnus & Brasse do that, I only knew them from Fem Myror :lol (And Jeapardy for Magnus, of course ;P)
Yeah and this story has been endlessly reported on by both European and American right wing outlets. The guy on FOX claimed there was a conspiracy by the entire government much bigger than just that festival. Trying to find a link to what I read last night about it.
edit: Someone posted the actual program; guess that counts as a "Story" on FOX. Propaganda film maker.
Still waiting for a reason to up it to 1. Maybe one day.
That didn't happen two nights ago.
Bumbling incompetent President that believes fox news over his own intelligence agencies. You'd think someone with a hint of intelligence could see that he's in a unique position to use one of the greatest and brightest resources available to him, the C.I.A before making claims. Again, this man, his stupidity is a threat to us all.
They have problems with far right violence too, problems are not exclusive to immigrants, but all this is expected and being tackled, it's not complete chaos as Trump is trying to portray.
They have problems with far right violence too, problems are not exclusive to immigrants, but all this is expected and being tackled, it's not complete chaos as Trump is trying to portray.
Propaganda film might actually be the right thing to call it.
ClosingADoor
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God damn. I have been critical of European immigration and the current policies, but those guys just take it really over the top with clear framing to push an agenda and outright lies.
Yes, most of the 100.000 new people from last year probably don't have a job yet. Maybe... because asylum seekers who have just arrived are not allowed to have jobs, because that would create problems on the job market.
The images they show is from that Australian - I think - broadcast from some time back. And they need to repeat it a dozen times for dramatic purposes.
And if they talk about "the statistics" can't a news organisation - well, Fox... - at least call those up and put on the screen, so we know what they are talking about. Apparently I have to just trust these guys on their word without any source at all?
So Trump just told us he can't distinct TV and reality.
As for the segment, I find it to angle an agenda. They seem to just find validation to a political view. Which is dangerous. Sure you can argue the fact that immigrants may cause an increase in violence etc. That is not the direct cause of immigration. It is the sparks of multiple cultures smashing together. I would think history should have thought that lesson to most of us.
That was 7 years ago and didn't claim any innocent lives unless someone counts a mannequin in a shopping window as a life.
This was 2 years ago and killed 3 people, yet we do not immediately tackle the fuck out of Nordfront/Odin Soldiers/Swedish Democrats/Any Neo-Nazi people standing on market squares holding flags and distributing flyers like we should cause they are way more dangerous people.
How About No
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He's an embarrassment to any human with a working brain
hydrophilic attack
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sure
but nazi terrorists have killed way more people than islamist ones in scandinavia over the last decade
Chaos2Frozen
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This is embarrassing, America... girls are watching you... Swedish girls are watching you....
Empyrean Heaven
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The Sweden situation is something Breitbart and other right-wing sites have been peddling over the last two months, quoting no sources.
ClosingADoor
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Putin setting the agenda there because of upcoming elections in Europe? "Vote for your far right parties Netherlands, Germany, France, or you'll end up like Sweden!"
Wouldn't even surprise me anymore.
This is basically completely bullshit and as a swede I can say anyone who refers to a "refugee crisis" in Sweden is detached from reality and not someone you should listen to.
That includes Trump.
Muffin1611
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Good that the AfD in Germany fell under 10% in the latest poll then. Not sure how it's in the other countries though.
Seeing their poll numbers fall is delicious.
I would like to apologize to the fine people of Sweden for laughing at this.
paradise_circus
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160 000 citizens protested in Barcelona to finally do something. I'm not sure if Trump catched this as the POTUS and the biggest criticizer for migration movements.
spazchicken
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Ask anybody and they'll tell you.
Good, we think it is funny too.
On a galactic scale, 2010 is PRACTICALLY yesterday
My country is fake news? It sure feels like it sometimes when I wake up in my Ikea bed that's missing a screw.
Desperation is always dangerous within a large group of people. We have had our share of issues on both Norway and Sweden with burning of immigration centers from "whites". Ignorance and fear is a bad mix.
That must be so infuriating for the intelligence community. The president of the United States skips his daily briefings, watches some tv instead, then goes out and tells the public his version of the thing he watched.
He has the fucking FBI, NSA, CIA, and all the other agencies at his fingertips. There's nothing in the world that they don't know about. And what does he do? He tells millions of people stuff "he heard"? Then gets mad because the media calls him out on it.
It was funny when he was a candidate. Sad when he was president-elect. Worry some when he didn't cut the bullshit after a week. But after a month, he still doesn't even remotely understand the position he's in and that his words will have consequences.
And I'm not even talking about his continuous attempt to destroy checks and balances of the free press and the courts. He's declaring war on democracy itself. So buckle up, people.
He has the fucking FBI, NSA, CIA, and all the other agencies at his fingertips. There's nothing in the world that they don't know about. And what does he do? He tells millions of people stuff "he heard"? Then gets mad because the media calls him out on it.
It was funny when he was a candidate. Sad when he was president-elect. Worry some when he didn't cut the bullshit after a week. But after a month, he still doesn't even remotely understand the position he's in and that his words will have consequences.
And I'm not even talking about his continuous attempt to destroy checks and balances of the free press and the courts. He's declaring war on democracy itself. So buckle up, people.
Yabberwocky
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It's like a bizarre Monty Python 'but I'm not dead'/'yes you are' moment, but completely horrifying because it's the President of the United States.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The level of FUCKASSCUNT stupid you have to be when as the President of the USA you get your daily topical info from random Fox News segments and not intelligence briefings and statisticians and ANYONE ELSE is just unforgivable.
That this insanity is still ongoing just affirms America isn't a real country and maybe never was? Just some shit with wheels on duct-taped together to pretend and look like a country with bottle-rockets as propulsion.
That this insanity is still ongoing just affirms America isn't a real country and maybe never was? Just some shit with wheels on duct-taped together to pretend and look like a country with bottle-rockets as propulsion.
Someone said "lie" implies intent, whereas falsehood and the other various words imply what Trump may be doing here, repeating what he heard believing it's true. That he fails to check and verify that what he hears and says is true is a huge problem.
CecilRousso
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So his explanation, that barely makes sense in comparison to how he said it, is that he watched a news story on Fox, that's factually incorrect?
Muffin1611
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Yep, I'll celebrate the day they fall under 5%, whenever it comes.
hydrophilic attack
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but which he believes to be correct
Actually on that scale 2010 is now....
Those are fake polls and you know it. The same polls said that it was impossible for Trump to win!
I'm pretty sure Trump referring to any European country in any malevolent way is rather motivating the people from that country and who don't usually get too involved in elections to go out and vote against far right.
What amuses me is that the far right who never stops bragging about how much they love their country have no issue with the president of another country taking a piss at it. Big patriots. /s
BoboBrazil
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We have a president that will be making policy based of Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and Breitbart...
northernflights
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Fakes newsis
Fuckups like these in particular go viral worldwide, as he's making stuff up about another country. That tends to get traction. He's done and said worse stuff, but this just makes him a laughing stock all over the world. It was headlining on sites all day here in Belgium.
He's both a joke and a disgrace
He's both a joke and a disgrace
He fired a guy and blamed "da media" for him loosing it.
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