I'm likely to go PC exclusive in this case too. If everyone is trying to rort me I'll go for the guys who are charging less for it. I will buy a heap less games than I currently do though, no more gambles when I have no resale.
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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
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You're a better person than me, considering MS has released Zero details regarding the system.
No games, features, nothing...
I'm still going to evaluate the pros and cons of both when substantial (and confirmed) information is disclosed to the public.
Mystic_Wanderer
Member
Space magic.
Nope, I wasn't planning on buying a Durango/whatever it's call, and if this rumored is confirmed I wont even give it a second look.
And if third party is making it mandate to be always online to play a single player game. Then get ready to watch the game industry crash and burn, they're other hobbies I can take up, like fishing and golf.
If it's C+D, it would explain a lot of the things Gies has tweeted.
"Update: 1:40pm
Sources are telling 4Player that Adam Orth is no longer working for Microsoft. Currently tracking this down further...
...we've confirmed this with one reliable source but not two, and Orth's linkedin has currently shown no movement. We're considering this a high possibility but it currently lacks enough verification for us to confirm at this time."
Holy Hell
Valkyria
Banned
Every console, every time. It doesn't have to be on day one, but missing consoles is missing games. If always online is true then I'll pass on this, I like to own my games not rent them.
Wickerbasket
Member
Someone send this information to Polygon, I hear they're always looking for new talent.
No way in hell he lasted through the day.
That is my main sticking point. I still play my NES/SNES/N64... and of course my Sony games on my MGSBundle PS3. I see the PS4 is not going to have BC so I know I have to keep my ps3, and I don't want to invest in a console.... that my games wont work on once the next console comes out.
Add to the fact there are "no used games" means you pretty much have 1 shot to buy it in stores. Once they stop being made every time someone opens/activates a game theres 1 less in existence. I guess they will remedy this by having all their games downloadable so them having no remaining retail releases won't be an issue... at least not as far as they are concerned.
Ouch....
Kinda feel bad for him tbh. But seriously, I hope the outrage just works to ensure Microsoft change fucking course about this online only BS and any future no reused games malarkey.
:O
If he got fired, it's for prematurely "leaking" shitty features before they can be properly spun by PR. No way someone that high up is going to be fired for joking with his friend on Twitter.
ShroudOfFate
Member
I laughed way harder than I should have
Or spreading his company's name all around the internet in the worst possible light.
Truespeed
Member
In a related note I hear Dyson has offered him a position.
Who plays old games? They don't have enough rams to be any good.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Hahahaha... that cracked me up.
Puts a smile on my face, it really does.
I hope they didn't just let him go regarding that 4Player thing.
I'm sorry, but this guy deserves no sympathy. The internet is an ink, and whatever you say will be seen and judged, even if it is in jest. He represents a huge organization that doesn't exactly get a lot of good PR to begin with, so he simply should have known better.
shinobi602
Member
Holy shit.
Yup. MS is the one we want to really target here not this guy. If MS thinks that they can get away with it just by firing this guy, they are SO wrong. Consumers shouldn't have to be online to play a game that they've purchased.
The same goes for any other gaming companies thinking of implementing this. Ubisoft, EA, don't even think about it.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
This is crazy I thought I would never see the madness of the PS3 launch ever again. But here we are.
So far. I don't believe it.
Soo...that confirms the always online thing? I doubt they would have fired him if they weren't planning on going with forced online DRM, it's obvious MS is pissed that Orth leaked it before they had a chance to coat it with some shiny PR bullshit.
Can't say I feel sorry for the guy, someone in his position should know not to A) divulge, or even hint at, company secrets on freaking Twitter, and B) insult potential consumers of his company's product.
BlastProcessing
Member
If it turns out that always online is true, it would suck for this guy losing his job over this and the idiots who actually make the decisions at Microsoft walk away unscathed.
Truespeed
Member
Twitter doesn't cost jobs, people do.
Agreed. Fuck Microsoft under a train if some of these rumours are true. Saddens me because I have generally been quite a staunch supporter of Microsoft as a whole, but the last several years as a company they've just been turning to shit. I just really think they need to get rid of Ballmer, re-work management and get some new vision in there. There's SO much potential, but silly mistakes and decisions just keep crippling otherwise decent products and services.
MaulerX
Member
Or maybe he got fired for making his employer look bad by implying something that wasn't true?
ShroudOfFate
Member
Yeah it would really suck to be fired under such circumstances.
Yeah he got fired.
Tylahedras
Banned
Chairs were thrown.
BadAss2961
Member
Sucks if true.
Well if the Nextbox doesn't sell much as a result, other people will likely lose their jobs or positions.
Its true from what I've heard.
Too many different things that as a whole (imo) paint a very clear picture of it actually being true. Question now is whether it stays true, or if Microsoft will have the sense to change course.
BlastProcessing
Member
Unlikely. I expect Microsoft had a plan in how to present all of this information in a way that was appealing. Now that this has happened those attempts are obviously going to be shot down. People know what to look for. Unfortunate if he lost his job, but I'm sure pretty much anyone that works at any corporation signs forms about "public statements". Higher up you go, the more responsibilities and more restraint you have to show.
Glorified G
Member
I wonder how shinobi602 will sleep at night.
And how reliable is that?