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[HandsomeCharles]

How does haptic feedback feel? Can it simulate "clicky" buttons? Is it expensive?

Haptic feedback (at the moment) is simply just making the device vibrate when you press an on-screen icon. It's not very good. Until screens can actually deform and manipulate themselves into different shapes, there won't be an adequate "simulation" of actual button presses. The techonology is on the way, but it's still pretty far off.

 

[Galava]

How does haptic feedback feel? Can it simulate "clicky" buttons? Is it expensive?

If you can go to an Apple Store or somewhere where theyhave the 12inch Macbook you can try the trackpad. It uses haptic engine to simulate clicks (you can also change the intensity of the 'click'). Apple Watch has it too I believe.

Expensive? I don't think so, it's basically just a rumble.

 

[Salmon]

So another lowres and shitty screen?

 

[Boy Wander]

The thing that makes me feel it is fake is that it only shows ideas from the patent. I would expect there to be at least some differences that makes you think about what it does. This looks like someone was given the patent filing and made a mock-up entirely based on it.

 

[MargaritoPiruli]

What is that game on the controller?

Metroid Prime NX or Ballon Fight HD.

 

[Pennywise83]

Looks cool as a controller, not as an handheld because the screen looks small and not apt for hosting all the stuffs we have been used to see on DS & 3DS. As a controller, looks cool since it might host a lot of neat secondary stuffs, like menus, the cockpit view, or stuffs like that.

 

[Oersted]

I don't think sharp ever talked about the manufacturing price of those screens? They demoed it for cars/dashboards etc. It might be more expensive than traditional screens, but we actually don't know.
For sharp it might be benificial to have an order of +30m screens

Look up the Sharp screens. The material looks entirely different.

So another lowres and shitty screen?

Could be, but this is fake.

 

[dh4niel]

I hope to god thats just some mock up of the patent Destructoid reported on to save face because, that looks awful.

 

[Canti]

Image on the screen really reminds me of ReCore for XB1. Tried to find the original to match up but no such luck. Perhaps a coincidence. Still #Teamfake though.

 

[DrROBschiz]

The thing that makes me feel it is fake is that it only shows ideas from the patent. I would expect there to be at least some differences that makes you think about what it does. This looks like someone was given the patent filing and made a mock-up entirely based on it.

It could just be an early concept prototype?

Who the fuck knows. May not be the final form but its clear Nintendo is messing around again

 

[The_Lump]

I never said completely block, I said your hands will be over the parts of the screen that extend past the analog sticks, as your edit shows. There is no point having a super expensive custom shaped screen because you're gaining nothing by extending it under where your hands will always be covering.

That's the crux here, that screen wouldn't be cheap and it isn't offering anything worthwhile.

Highly debatable.
Several uses for that extra area that I thought of off the top of my head earlier:

• Context Sensitive Buttons
• HUD Elements
• Peripheral Effects

And you certainly aren't losing anything by having that extra screen. There's a nice big 16: (possibly wider) area between the sticks that will remain unobscured. Here's how I see this thing:

Grips may be detachable, shape may be different etc (including a dead area for front facing camera as per the "leaked" image)

 

[Graphics Horse]

How does haptic feedback feel? Can it simulate "clicky" buttons? Is it expensive?

i don't know how much it costs. it's possible to simulate clicks yeah, you can either slightly vibrate the screen surface up and down or slightly bend it, and can use pressure sensors to require a certain amount of force before a click is registered. I think doing this kind of thing would be pretty important if they want to remove physical face buttons.

 

[JetSetRadio]

Looks terrible, wouldn't be surprised if it's real.

 

[maxcriden]

None.

Thank you. You think this is BS, Oer?

 

[DrROBschiz]

NX will support Pro controller by default if this design is real lol

 

[Galava]

Highly debatable.
Several uses I've thought of off the top of my head earlier:

• Context Sensitive Buttons
• HUD Elements
• Peripheral Effects

Here's how I see this thing:


Grips may be detachable, shape may be different etc (including a dead area for front facing camera as per the "leaked" image.

Exactly what I have in mind, detachable grips. And I like it.

 

[maxcriden]

It could just be an early concept prototype?

Who the fuck knows. May not be the final form but its clear Nintendo is messing around again

That isn't clear. Because this could be entirely fake.

 

[Kouriozan]

NX will support Pro controller by default if this design is real lol

Then RIP again trying to appeal to a mass audience.

 

[KooopaKid]

Haptic feedback (at the moment) is simply just making the device vibrate when you press an on-screen icon. It's not very good. Until screens can actually deform and manipulate themselves into different shapes, there won't be an adequate "simulation" of actual button presses. The techonology is on the way, but it's still pretty far off.

Ok thanks, doesn't look like it's as satisfying as buttons.

 

[Aurongel]

In a world of increasing homogenization among mobile technologies, Nintendo is choosing once more to double down on hardware gimmicks?

Yeah, this is either a well done fake (very likely) or a company that has no vision off a path to success.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Haptic feedback (at the moment) is simply just making the device vibrate when you press an on-screen icon. It's not very good. Until screens can actually deform and manipulate themselves into different shapes, there won't be an adequate "simulation" of actual button presses. The techonology is on the way, but it's still pretty far off.

that's true of most haptic feedback but apple's is the only one that definitely feels like a click, especially on their new trackpads. It's almost eery. They made their own though and nintendo certainly couldn't emulate the same effect.

 

[Ban Puncher]

 

[Galava]

Then RIP again trying to appeal to a mass audience.

Explain this to me:

Try to appeal to mass audience: RIP
Try to create an entirely different thing from the mainstream stuff: RIP

Whatever Nintendo does: RIP

 

[Joelstinton14]

If you can go to an Apple Store or somewhere where theyhave the 12inch Macbook you can try the trackpad. It uses haptic engine to simulate clicks (you can also change the intensity of the 'click'). Apple Watch has it too I believe.

Expensive? I don't think so, it's basically just a rumble.

Is it possible to programme resistance into the clicks as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Call of Duty where each gun as different feel and resistance in pulling the trigger. If haptic feedback could emulate that it could potentially open up the 'feel' of games.

 

[Clefargle]

If you can go to an Apple Store or somewhere where theyhave the 12inch Macbook you can try the trackpad. It uses haptic engine to simulate clicks (you can also change the intensity of the 'click'). Apple Watch has it too I believe.

Expensive? I don't think so, it's basically just a rumble.

I have a MacBook Pro with that feature and it's pretty great. The click can come from anywhere on the trackpad and it really does feel like a "click". Pretty neat but I don't know if it would be the same since the trackpad does actually depress when you push it

 

[Oersted]

Thank you. You think this is BS, oer?

1. Leaker tells everyone he/she is a developer.

2. Design looks like one patent which wasn't a design patent.

3. The display does not look a Sharp free form display. The material looks entirely different.

 

[Donos]

Looks terrible, wouldn't be surprised if it's real.

Reminds me of the real PS3 Slim which surfaced early on some chinese market. Everybody said it was to ugly to be real (also was potato cam quality).

 

[maniac-kun]

If its actualy real. Why does Nintendo always try to be ahead with some gimmick instead of raw power? If this is the real thing... i dont know i dont see me buying something like a Wii U again which is the worst console i own in terms of games that I like. The only interesting feature yet for me is beeing able to play 3ds successor games on TV.

 

[Galava]

Is it possible to programme resistance into the clicks as well? I'm thinking along the lines of Call of Duty where each gun as different feel and resistance in pulling the trigger. If haptic feedback could emulate that it could potentially open up the 'feel' of games.

I haven't looked up the configs, but I think you can also change the sensitivity of the press and the rumble strength.

 

[Mandelbo]

Yeah, that looks like an ergonomic nightmare if it's real. The "screen" also looks a little like a decal that's been stuck on the front of the controller.

 

[Galava]

If its actualy real. Why does Nintendo always try to be ahead with some gimmick instead of raw power? If this is the real thing... i dont know i dont see me buying something like a Wii U again which is the worst console i own in terms of games that I like.

Because Nintendo doesn't need raw power.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

/ded

 

[BGBW]

I'm going to say it's real. If it turns out to be true I can then say I called it, if it turns out to be fake I can easily say I was just having a laugh by jokingly calling it real. It's win win!

 

[GRW810]

It looks fake and the possibility feels fake. Where has it come from? Why does it look identical to a patent? What am I supposed to be seeing on the controller, reflection or game play?

 

[gbrewski]

I have a MacBook Pro with that feature and it's pretty great. The click can come from anywhere on the trackpad and it really does feel like a "click". Pretty neat but I don't know if it would be the same since the trackpad does actually depress when you push it

The trackpad actually doesn't move at all. Turn off your device and you'll see. It's pretty mind blowing.

Here's hoping Nintendo uses something like that!

 

[Rvaisse]

which amiibo is this ? ^^

 

[oni-link]

I really hope this is fake, I can't see another gimmick system selling more than 10m units, and a 2nd flop console in a row will surely mean Nintendo have to reconsider staying in the console market. If they did leave the console industry it would bad for everyone.

The type of people who buy dedicated hardware for playing games on (core gamers) do not want gimmicks, this was shown with the Wii U and it was shown again with the reaction to the XB1 pushing motion controls (which they sensibly stopped doing)

Make the NX cheap and give it an industry standard input device and then do the thing that Nintendo does best, make good games

It's not 2006 anymore, you can't make a dedicated gaming system and sell it to people who typically don't buy dedicated gaming systems, they all have smart phones now

I'm all for innovation, but not when it's going to kill Nintendo games on console, and not when it adds almost nothing worthwhile to the experience (which was the case with the Wii U and pointer controls in most games)

 

[maxcriden]

1. Leaker tells everyone he/she is a developer.

2. Design looks like one patent which wasn't a design patent.

The display does not look a Sharp free form display. The material looks entirely different.

Thank you for your thoughts. I think I agree. I forgot that was a tech patent only and not a design patent. That info should really be in the OP.

 

[Graphics Horse]

I have a MacBook Pro with that feature and it's pretty great. The click can come from anywhere on the trackpad and it really does feel like a "click". Pretty neat but I don't know if it would be the same since the trackpad does actually depress when you push it

The effect relies on the surface being slightly moveable so that they can vibrate it and sense pressure. From what I've read it works on screens too, but you have to protect against moisture because of the physical gap between the layers changes.

 

[ForsakenLotus]

Guys, we don't need to use Photoshop forensic evidence, patent applications, inside sources or anything other than common sense to know it is fake. Just look at the shape of the screen. What game developer or console maker is going to make an oval shaped screen for a game? It makes no sense. Plus, the outer edges are effectively useless if there are virtually invisible haptic buttons.

I've seen some good fakes in my life, but this one doesn't even pass the common sense test. And a note that says, "You will say wow!"

Like, how is anybody falling for this?

 

[maniac-kun]

I really hope this is fake, I can't see another gimmick system selling more than 10m units, and a 2nd flop console in a row will surely mean Nintendo have to reconsider staying in the console market. If they did leave the console industry it would bad for everyone.

The type of people who buy dedicated hardware for playing games on (core gamers) do not want gimmicks, this was shown with the Wii U and it was shown again with the reaction to the XB1 pushing motion controls (which they sensibly stopped doing)

Make the NX cheap and give it an industry standard input device and then do the thing that Nintendo does best, make good games

It's not 2006 anymore, you can't make a dedicated gaming system and sell it to people who typically don't buy dedicated gaming systems, they all have smart phones now

I'm all for innovation, but not when it's going to kill Nintendo games on console, and not when it adds almost nothing worthwhile to the experience (which was the case with the Wii U and pointer controls in most games)

So why exactly do they need their own console when all we care about is their games? Third party Nintendo would be a win-win situation for us.

 

[Scrawnton]

I kind of like the idea of this as the handheld version of NX. Unpopular opinion, I know; but, if this is real I'm not upset.

 

[maxcriden]

So why exactly do they need their own console when all we care about is their games? Third party Nintendo would be a win-win situation for us.

We would lose so many of the non-Mario and Zelda games that way.

 

[Galava]

So why exactly do they need their own console when all we care about is their games? Third party Nintendo would be a win-win situation for us.

I don't think Nintendo games would work if Nintendo doesn't have full control of the system. Nintendo games and the platform are tighlty tied together, his entire game strategy revolves around their console strategy.

 

[E-phonk]

Guys, we don't need to use Photoshop forensic evidence, patent applications, inside sources or anything other than common sense to know it is fake. Just look at the shape of the screen. What game developer or console maker is going to make an oval shaped screen for a game? It makes no sense. Plus, the outer edges are effectively useless if there are virtually invisible haptic buttons.

I've seen some good fakes in my life, but this one doesn't even pass the common sense test. And a note that says, "You will say wow!"

Like, how is anybody falling for this?

It looks EXACTLY like a nintendo patent that has an oval screen, which is why a lot of calling fake because it looks too closely like that pattern.
Also sharp has a new freeform screen technology that is apparently licensed to nintendo. This was known since 2014 and was first seen as something for their by then newly announced QoL products.

 

[Bots are better than you]

1. Leaker tells everyone he/she is a developer.

2. Design looks like one patent which wasn't a design patent.

The display does not look a Sharp free form display. The material looks entirely different.

If this is a legit leak, then the leaker won't stay a developer for very long. At least not an employed one.

Although that would also mean another thing, that should finally put an end to those threads about dev/studio x not knowing anything about NX.
Namely, that devs/studios DO have devkits/prototypes already. ;D

 

[Little Mons†er]

If true I don't have a problem with it.

It looks COOL FUNKY AND UNIQUE

WHEN will your FAVES ?

Slaytendo about to kill everyone else in the game.

Perched for the reveal tears

 

[maniac-kun]

I don't think Nintendo games would work if Nintendo doesn't have full control of the system. Nintendo games and the platform are tighlty tied together, his entire game strategy revolves around the consoles, not the other way around.

The only games where having the Wii U controller was a positive thing was Zelda. For the rest it was completly unnessesary and I used the pro controller.

 

[linkandzelda]

I do not have any strong opinion on the concept as I don't really know what it is and haven't used it. However if this is true I do not see it selling well and two flops in a row will mean a significant chance of Nintendo leaving the console buissness which is something I do not want therefore I hope it is fake.

 

[Hermii]

If it's real it's not a controller imo it's the NX handheld.