Alex_Mexico
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Holy shit so the PS3 did ended up outselling the 360 worldwide then!Thanks to Lime for finding this. I think the Xbox One is the only one we didn't have numbers for.
Source: http://www.eedar.com/blog/eedar-insights-gdc16
Holy shit so the PS3 did ended up outselling the 360 worldwide then!Thanks to Lime for finding this. I think the Xbox One is the only one we didn't have numbers for.
Source: http://www.eedar.com/blog/eedar-insights-gdc16
Go Vita!
This chart is about as reliable as chartz. They got the 20mil xbone number from that one MS exec.
Has it finally reached 10 millions?
The big news is that PS3 officialy beat the 360, it took more than 8 years but Sony did it, amazing!
Though I guess it's only "on paper" and most will agree that MS were the winners of that gen over Sony, too bad they threw all the good will with the XB1 reveal, they were in an amazing position after the 7th gen, XB1's reveal is probably the worst of all time, MS didn't truly recovered since that day.
What MS exec said 20 million?
...And that is why they have been spending so much promoting XboxOne sales at retail??
Brilliant strategy Microsoft.
excluding Wii software sales to adjust to a certain narrative seems really desperate.
My mistake, was an MS analyst who pegged it at 18mil. So that 20mil number is even higher.
Still outsold the Vita... Like that means anything.
Yup. They all laughed at Krazy Ken. Look who's laughing now!PS3 officially overtaking X360.
Fucking finally.
What a great comeback.
Thanks.They're just projecting the market using some extrapolation, just like every other analyst organization does. There are no perfectly reliable numbers for this stuff.
MS never said 18m.My mistake, was an MS analyst who pegged it at 18mil. So that 20mil number is even higher.
PlayStation 3 surpassed Xbox 360 in sales yet I still easily enjoyed and preferred Xbox 360 over PlayStation 3 when I owned both of them. Doubt that im the only one.
While the system has sold like dogshit, apparently Vita owners actually buy a lot of games and developers seem happy with that.Hopefully this will put in end to all the Vita port begging from all the diehards. Vita means death bruhs.
PlayStation 3 surpassed Xbox 360 in sales yet I still easily enjoyed and preferred Xbox 360 over PlayStation 3 when I owned both of them. Doubt that im the only one.
It will show something that most can't accept, Nintendo is in decline.
Wii U in the same ballpark as the Vita is fucking gross. the latter should have never crossed 5 mill
What is this post even?
Good to see I'm not the only person who noticed that. People really want to remove and or downplay the impact the Wii had on gaming. It's amazing watching people put on a helmet and waggle when they did nothing but talk about how ridiculous people looked playing wii games.
Huh. So poor/mediocre games that are marketed well sell better than good/great games that are not. I guess it shouldn't be surprising, but for some reason I find it interestingRelationship between marketing budget + review scores
It's not over! It's... Over. lolHoly shit so the PS3 did ended up outselling the 360 worldwide then!
Oh come on.
The reason the Wii has to be removed from comparisons like this is because the Wii had such an outlier impact on gaming.
It's not to downplay that success at all. In fact, it's the exact opposite of downplaying it.
It's clearly building a more positive narrative of the present market. One that simply cannot exist if we include all the consoles wich has traditionally been the case.
Outlier my butt. VR's emerging control methods take liberally from the Wii's inspiration. Which is very similar to NES and the old fashioned arcades. That also ignores the mobile market where Just Dance is doing rather well. I mention it because that's a big 3rd party franchise part of those bubble sales that don't seem to be there any more. But it does exist. The customers just aren't chained to the boxes that are now "deemed" a part of the same market to get to it. The impact of the Wii is still among us. It didn't dissipate into ether. It's moved on to competing products that aren't included in their analysis.
I can't believe a 105 million selling console is now considered an outlier. No one would say that if the box said Sony or Microsoft.
The Wii really isn't in a "grey area". It was a dedicated device that moved a ton of units while competing with other dedicated devices. So what if it sold to casuals? So did the DS, it sold a shitload. Neither stopped being dedicated video game hardware somewhere in the process.
Its an outlier....for Nintendo home console sales.
If its an outlier for that.....why cant it be one for last gen. All I know is its a grey area with the Wii and last gen. Last gen as a whole was an outlier. That said...even if the Wii had sold as much as the NES....it still would be a decline this gen. It just wouldnt look as bad. The Wii U failing so hard also causes this gen to look bad.
Sony averages over 100 million home console sales from PS1 to PS3....so I dont think one would say that about a Sony home console. MS...you may have a point.
So Wii U half the Xbox One sales? I wanna see the receipts.
I thought it was that supposedly in the know analyst who gave a number of Win10 activations and said that 18m of it were XB1s?That "18 million" was a MAU number, not straight up sales.
i think more accurately, you have to look at the 7th gen as the peak of video game dedicated hardware. the dedicated market will not do any better moving forward. sony, microsoft, and nintendo never moved as much hardware then as they had done before. this is partially why we are seeing iterative hardware coming from the hardware manufacturers.
the big indication of where video games are going are how digital-only is taking over on dedicated hardware, and just how much steam has exploded over the last two years. we are moving away from a need to have dedicated software, and we will be moving away from a need to have games made on dedicated hardware. already we are in an era where by and large the driving force for new experiences isn't done by traditional developers, but small teams making things you can download easily on your computer.
i guess my point is, the comparison between last gen and this gen can't exclude parts of it to claim the 'industry is healthy.' instead i think it's better to expand your viewpoint to see where the industry was and where it's headed. people don't play games on their phones because they're dumb. they do it because it's inexpensive, there's a lot of variety, and the games are super accessible. if it happened to one userbase (casual gamers and japanese gamers), it can happen to another... and it will.
It's clearly building a more positive narrative of the present market. One that simply cannot exist if we include all the consoles wich has traditionally been the case.
Outlier my butt. VR's emerging control methods take liberally from the Wii's inspiration. Which is very similar to NES and the old fashioned arcades. That also ignores the mobile market where Just Dance is doing rather well. I mention it because that's a big 3rd party franchise part of those bubble sales that don't seem to be there any more. But it does exist. The customers just aren't chained to the boxes that are now "deemed" a part of the same market to get to it. The impact of the Wii is still among us. It didn't dissipate into ether. It's moved on to competing products that aren't included in their analysis.
I can't believe a 105 million selling console is now considered an outlier. No one would say that if the box said Sony or Microsoft.
It's clearly building a more positive narrative of the present market. One that simply cannot exist if we include all the consoles wich has traditionally been the case.
Outlier my butt. VR's emerging control methods take liberally from the Wii's inspiration. Which is very similar to NES and the old fashioned arcades. That also ignores the mobile market where Just Dance is doing rather well. I mention it because that's a big 3rd party franchise part of those bubble sales that don't seem to be there any more. But it does exist. The customers just aren't chained to the boxes that are now "deemed" a part of the same market to get to it. The impact of the Wii is still among us. It didn't dissipate into ether. It's moved on to competing products that aren't included in their analysis.
I can't believe a 105 million selling console is now considered an outlier. No one would say that if the box said Sony or Microsoft.
I thought it was that supposedly in the know analyst who gave a number of Win10 activations and said that 18m of it were XB1s?
Good to see I'm not the only person who noticed that. People really want to remove and or downplay the impact the Wii had on gaming. It's amazing watching people put on a helmet and waggle when they did nothing but talk about how ridiculous people looked playing wii games.
Yup. They all laughed at Krazy Ken. Look who's laughing now!
lmao are you serious with this? they both have less than five exclusives worth playing, they both deserve those shameful sales.
While the system has sold like dogshit, apparently Vita owners actually buy a lot of games and developers seem happy with that.
... and maybe if more people have it a honest try they would enjoy it too .
Ya but outlier in data points can be in comparison to different things. Sony selling 100 million not really an outlier for Sony.
Wii data is an outlier for Nintendo if you graph home consoles. That's a fact because without Wii it's steady decline.
Nintendo selling 100 million hardwares not an outlier if you include handheld
A home console of any type selling 100 million is not an outlier
Depends what the reference is
Software down or not? Wii is a bubble
To put in perspective of how poorly the Vita has done, it has sold the same amount of units world-wide over the past five years as the Gamegear did.
This is ridiculous. It's not like the Wii only sold to casual consumers. Zelda, Resident Evil, Smash Bros., and Call of Duty were multi-million sellers on the system. You can't just remove half of the market to "prove' a point.
I don't understand how music and racing games are casual yet first person shooters and "action" are not. These charts are horrible.