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This E3 is gonna be fucked if this thread is any indication.
If Nintendo doesn't fuck up they could have a pretty epic year as Sony/MS try this new console push.
This E3 is gonna be fucked if this thread is any indication.
Why would anybody do this for an incremental upgrade?
what about the 40 million people who already have one? do their reactions not count?
Vanilla PS4 is my last Sony purchase. I won't support a company that does this to the console market.
These kind of posts have to be jokes right? I just cant.. Are there really people like you out there.
Smh
Their reaction will be:what about the 40 million people who already have one? do their reactions not count?
Too bad. Some will go, new customers/gamers will jump in. Balance.Vanilla PS4 is my last Sony purchase. I won't support a company that does this to the console market.
That would make zero sense. From a business standpoint, it would be suicide.So no exclusive NEO games is good but I gotta wonder if we are heading towards a scenario where a game runs on the base PS4 at like 15 FPS at a crappy res vs the NEO running it at a solid 30 or even 60 at full 1080p or higher.
This E3 is gonna be fucked if this thread is any indication.
what about the 40 million people who already have one? do their reactions not count?
Why? It doesn't really change any argument. It's still a complete console. It's just coming in 3 years instead of 5-6.Blows my mind that anyone who takes a hard stance against PC gaming in favor of consoles would be excited for this.
I'm very curious to see how this works out in terms of sales, game quality, and product messaging.
what about the 40 million people who already have one? do their reactions not count?
Why? Because his/her own subjective view and opinion are oppsing yours?Are you 13?
Those type of post makes me cringe.
giantbomb source is from devnet site
I can say 100%. Same where I know this.
If Nintendo doesn't fuck up they could have a pretty epic year as Sony/MS try this new console push.
Except Nintendo doesn't have a great track record for 3rd party support.I'll just get an NX
LOL, not happening. It will be an option for the hardest of the hardcore that can't stay satisfied.
..same again for PS4K when released?
That's just one factor, though. It's still much slower than a 970.
People forget that a lot of people getting good performance with a 970 on PC also have a CPU that makes what we have in PS4 and XB1 look more silly than they already do.
3570K's, 2500K's, 4670K's, 4690K's, a lot of the i7's. Like it or not, CPU plays a factor in gaming. Especially in games that are a little more open and less linear. While Uncharted 4 isn't an open world/sandbox game, I bet the fact that it's more open than other Uncharted games has forced ND to push that CPU to its limit.
Interesting any more juice?
Except Nintendo doesn't have a great track record for 3rd party support.
Except Nintendo doesn't have a great track record for 3rd party support.
Yeah that's my point. The person I replied to said he would get a NX instead of this. That's great, except with nintendos track record with 3rd parties it's not viable as you're only gaming device(console or PC). Also the NX really needs to change that way of thinking for it to be a success. People want to play 3rd party games and most house holds don't own multiple consoles.You don't buy a Nintendo console for 3rd party games.
Fucking awful if true.
How are Sony going to sell this?
Did you read the information? How are they splitting their market?Well I'm buying one anyway, but if 3rd party on NX falls through, I'll keep an eye on XB1-2. An incremental upgrade of the same console isn't an attractive idea to me, and I don't think Sony is wise to be splitting up their market when they're in a comfortable lead.
Indeed.
Because this bump is tiny. The CPU is still bad and is still going to bottleneck, potentially worse than the OG.
If their stance entirely hinged on "have to upgrade every few years" or "I don't want to spend money every few years" then sure that'd be hypocritical. But there are and always have been plenty of other reasons as to why someone can largely favor a console experience over a pc one, and those folks can very well be excited for this without it seeming hypocritical.Blows my mind that anyone who takes a hard stance against PC gaming in favor of consoles would be excited for this.
How are Sony going to sell this?
There is literally nothing good that can come out of this. Nobody wanted this console.
Just below a 390, above a 380, so about a 970 or slightly better.So if the current PS4 is a 7850/7870/280 in performance, where would the new model slot in?
Which is the point, AMD GPU's were never weak which their tflops showed, but more so hampered by drivers and cpu overhead as opposed to Nvidia. No need for DX12 on the PS4 because it's has a low level api already, so of course I was making the distinction between AMD hardware in general. That Nvidia Tflops comment is unfounded, without proper software to utilize and take advantage of the hardware, it really doesn't matter how powerful your hardware is.You don't have DX12 on the PS4, AMD cards get better beyond 1080p wich is not the case with the PS4.
If their stance entirely hinged on "have to upgrade every few years" then sure that'd be hypocritical. But there are and always have been plenty of other reasons as to why someone can largely favor a console experience over a pc one, and those folks can very well be excited for this without it seeming hypocritical.
That would make zero sense. From a business standpoint, it would be suicide.
By the 18-wheeler full. Tell that to everybody in line midnight in front of GameStop and BestBuy in a few months.
Fucking awful if true.
How are Sony going to sell this?
There is literally nothing good that can come out of this. Nobody wanted this console.
Now the devs have to patch their games and create two versions of the same game.
but why?
The PS4 is murdering right now. There is no need for a new console
Pretty much. The tech guys are the ones really supporting this stuff. They'll prolly be the same guys cheering for another PS4K upgrade in the next 2-3 years.
I want it. Read the thread. Others want it, too. Don't speak for others.Fucking awful if true.
How are Sony going to sell this?
There is literally nothing good that can come out of this. Nobody wanted this console.
Now the devs have to patch their games and create two versions of the same game.
but why?
The PS4 is murdering right now. There is no need for a new console
Doesn't this happen in the mobile scene already? iPhone 6 games can run on iPhone 5 but...ughh...do you really want to?
Could be wrong and I agree it would be suicide.
I want it. Read the thread. Others want it, too. Don't speak for others.
You don't want it? Don't buy it. It's only an option. All games will run on both.
Lol, it's always the guys speaking with such authority, like they know for a fact that NEO was not a thing, calling for bans even on Kotaku or on users who hold a different opinion. These last few months have been something I tell you.
Nah, MSFT is already invested in what they are doing, are limited by the same APU supplier, also their ESRAM issue for compatibility with the current Xbox One. They will not scratch what they are doing now, try and find some magical tech to fit their APU with a 3.2x+ the power (over the current Xbox One) to try and beat the PS4K, which will just push their revision back another year or so later.
My prediction if MSFT does this. It will be the same 2.3-2.5 times the power bump over the Xbox One we have now, due to knowing what is available with the APU maker, die size, and the ESRAM issue. That will still put it a good 1TF less in power than the PS4K. We will all find out soon I am sure.
The ball is 100% in Nintendo's court at this point. For the most part, I have not been impressed with what Microsoft and Sony are doing this gen.
Pretty much. The tech guys are the ones really supporting this stuff. They'll prolly be the same guys cheering for another PS4K upgrade in the next 2-3 years.
I want it. Read the thread. Others want it, too. Don't speak for others.
You don't want it? Don't buy it. It's only an option. All games will run on both.